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Offline peter w

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Re: Adama Traoré
« Reply #45 on: July 23, 2016, 08:09:17 AM »
Well, yes, but how often was he fit? And what had he shown other that he can sprint in straight lines very fast that he was worthy of a starting spot? You do it at Bodymoor heath first if you think you are due a starting spot, and then you can knock on the manager's door and ask why aren't you playing. Whatever you think of the last 3 managers that we have had not one have had a fully fit Traore for more than a few games and none have considered him ready or at the level where they would stick him in. That's fair enough.

If he is anywhere near the attotude of Okore and deciding when he will offer his services to Aston villa and not the other way round, then i'd get shot of him too.

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Adama Traoré
« Reply #46 on: July 23, 2016, 08:49:52 AM »
That's the Okore who played for us injured over a sustained period right?

Offline peter w

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Re: Adama Traoré
« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2016, 09:17:35 AM »
As do many professionals. but I think we've covered this. To many he's a shining beacon to me he's just a modern day Pierre van Hooydonck.

Malandro

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Re: Adama Traoré
« Reply #48 on: July 23, 2016, 09:24:24 AM »
Are we writing him off because he's injury prone, on high wages or he has a bad attitude?

He missed 21 games with a fracture and four with a calf strain. His wages - is that really his fault? I imagine his aim is to be playing games.

Offline mr underhill

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« Reply #49 on: July 23, 2016, 09:43:35 AM »
of course it is, but sadly, it's not one that he manages to attain very often

Offline robbo1874

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Re: Adama Traoré
« Reply #50 on: July 23, 2016, 09:47:28 AM »
This is a tough one. I think the only time I saw him last season was against Bournemouth when he just went past about 3 or 4 of their players like they weren't there for the goal and remember thinking: fkn hell, this kid is shit hot. Since then, nothing. We've no spare places for passengers, but based on that one sighting of him, I'd be inclined to keep him if possible, give him some games to show what he can do. If he's constantly injured/ rubbish/ can't be arsed, then sell him in Jan. But I'd at least give him a run when fit.

Malandro

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Re: Adama Traoré
« Reply #51 on: July 23, 2016, 09:54:22 AM »
of course it is, but sadly, it's not one that he manages to attain very often

Missing half the season with a broken bone hardly makes him injury prone, he needed time to recover.
 He also missed games because Sherwood did not want to throw him in too early.

I have no idea if he has a bad attitude but I'm not going to assume he has one.


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Re: Adama Traoré
« Reply #52 on: July 23, 2016, 10:16:56 AM »
As do many professionals. but I think we've covered this. To many he's a shining beacon to me he's just a modern day Pierre van Hooydonck.

Fantastic work Peter, if in doubt just spell it phonetically.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Adama Traoré
« Reply #53 on: July 23, 2016, 10:21:10 AM »
Tiny Tim threw in into action pretty early on against Palace after saying we wouldn't see him play for ages. and he was right.

Malandro

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Re: Adama Traoré
« Reply #54 on: July 23, 2016, 10:45:15 AM »
Tiny Tim threw in into action pretty early on against Palace after saying we wouldn't see him play for ages. and he was right.

Which, I admit, proves he was a bad signing for where we were last year. We couldn't afford to have big purchases out of the team.   It doesn't mean that he will not be important this year. Who knows.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Adama Traoré
« Reply #55 on: July 23, 2016, 11:06:13 AM »
don't get me wrong - I hope the guy makes it as he is the type of player that gets bums on seats. We just need him to do it more than  a couple of times a season.

Offline KRS

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Re: Adama Traoré
« Reply #56 on: July 23, 2016, 11:26:00 AM »
The little that we saw of him last season was enough of an indication that we shouldn't be too quick to be getting rid of him without seeing how he can perform and improve given a decent amount of game time. What he did in the games against Notts County and Crystal Palace was enough to show that this kid does have what it takes if he can stay fit and avoid injury...the only problem is that he hasn't been able to stay fit and avoid injury. As such, the only concern is what will happen the first, second or third time that he's on the receiving end of a heavy challenge...if it goes to form, then it will predictably end up with him sitting it out on the side lines for another few months. I'm not sure what the club or management are supposed to do when a player is constantly picking up knocks and being out injured as it makes him more or less unplayable and unsellable.

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Adama Traoré
« Reply #57 on: July 23, 2016, 01:16:17 PM »
If we were still a PL club we would be saying loan him out to a Championship club to get game time.  Well, we are a Championship club now, so logic would say that he should be in the team or on the bench.

I would like to see him brought in gradually over the first quarter of the season playing wide but as the season progresses I think he could move inside a bit more, depending on how we set up.  He is fast and powerful and I think he will eventually end up playing more central.  At Championship level he should get far more space to allow his confidence to improve.

Offline KRS

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Re: Adama Traoré
« Reply #58 on: July 23, 2016, 01:33:11 PM »
I could easily see him playing central either on his own or off a target man. Central defenders would be terrified of his pace and it would only take a through ball or a ball over the top to see him in countless 1 on 1 situations with their keeper.

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Re: Adama Traoré
« Reply #59 on: July 23, 2016, 01:48:23 PM »
If we were still a PL club we would be saying loan him out to a Championship club to get game time.  Well, we are a Championship club now, so logic would say that he should be in the team or on the bench.

I would like to see him brought in gradually over the first quarter of the season playing wide but as the season progresses I think he could move inside a bit more, depending on how we set up.  He is fast and powerful and I think he will eventually end up playing more central.  At Championship level he should get far more space to allow his confidence to improve.

The thought of a three of Traore, Grealish and Ayew behind a decent striker this season is an exciting one if also a little unpredictable. 

 


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