Wanted to work in a football environment, but did not like the fact that fans sang sexist songs about her, when she ran on the pitch!, my advice would be grow up.Her and her lawyers must be laughing there heads off - £5 million if true is unbelievableGood job that she does not work in the local hospital, she would be suing individual patients for any comment made to her.
Wanted to work in a football environment, but did not like the fact that fans sang sexist songs about her, when she ran on the pitch!, my advice would be grow up.
Fan chanting is one thing - it's difficult to control and in a male dominated sport it is bound to happen. But a bit of 'get yer tits out' is nothing like the hate filled racism of the past and comparing the two is a bit OTT.It is when the attitude is shown inside the club that there is a real issue. Jose acted like a tit and it seems the club didn't deal with it very well. BUT, I do not like the current claim culture and in my view £5m for losing your job and hurt feelings is bloody ridiculous. I'm not saying she hasn't got a case, but sometimes people need to get some perspective. She hasn't lost a limb and can carry on to have a productive career elsewhere. Why should she be made rich beyond most peoples wildest dreams because she has been treated badly for a period of her employment? I doubt whether sports Direct employees will be buying Ferraris off the back of their settlements.
Does this extend to black and asian players who are racially abused, and to gay players who experience homophobic abuse too? Should they just 'grow up' too? Or is it only sexism that is okay?
Quote from: chrisw1 on June 08, 2016, 10:02:16 AMFan chanting is one thing - it's difficult to control and in a male dominated sport it is bound to happen. But a bit of 'get yer tits out' is nothing like the hate filled racism of the past and comparing the two is a bit OTT.It is when the attitude is shown inside the club that there is a real issue. Jose acted like a tit and it seems the club didn't deal with it very well. BUT, I do not like the current claim culture and in my view £5m for losing your job and hurt feelings is bloody ridiculous. I'm not saying she hasn't got a case, but sometimes people need to get some perspective. She hasn't lost a limb and can carry on to have a productive career elsewhere. Why should she be made rich beyond most peoples wildest dreams because she has been treated badly for a period of her employment? I doubt whether sports Direct employees will be buying Ferraris off the back of their settlements.Mourinho questioned her ability to do her job in front of a ground full of fans and then on national television. She was then demoted to a lesser position. That has nothing to do with hurt feelings, it's unfair treatment of an employee, it's damaging someone's professional reputation and it's changing their job for no good reason.And in an industry where players and managers reguarly get millions of pounds in pay-offs for nothing more than being crap and being sacked, why shouldn't she get the same for losing her job for absolutely no fault of her own?
Quote from: chrisw1 on June 08, 2016, 10:02:16 AMFan chanting is one thing - it's difficult to control and in a male dominated sport it is bound to happen. But a bit of 'get yer tits out' is nothing like the hate filled racism of the past and comparing the two is a bit OTT.It is when the attitude is shown inside the club that there is a real issue. Jose acted like a tit and it seems the club didn't deal with it very well. BUT, I do not like the current claim culture and in my view £5m for losing your job and hurt feelings is bloody ridiculous. I'm not saying she hasn't got a case, but sometimes people need to get some perspective. She hasn't lost a limb and can carry on to have a productive career elsewhere. Why should she be made rich beyond most peoples wildest dreams because she has been treated badly for a period of her employment? I doubt whether sports Direct employees will be buying Ferraris off the back of their settlements.Well said sir, refreshing to see a balanced and logical view.
Quote from: SheffieldVillain on June 08, 2016, 10:07:06 AMDoes this extend to black and asian players who are racially abused, and to gay players who experience homophobic abuse too? Should they just 'grow up' too? Or is it only sexism that is okay? Do you really think a bit of wolf whistling 'banter' is the same as hate fueled racism? I use the phrase banter guardedly as I fully appreciate it is not be very nice and of course we could do without it in this day and age, but the terrace chants about female referees and linesmen are generally intended to be good natured (if misguided). Are they really that much worse than calling a referee a c***? Are they really any way near as bad as screaming abuse at black players? Personally I don't think they are.
Quote from: chrisw1 on June 08, 2016, 10:19:31 AMQuote from: SheffieldVillain on June 08, 2016, 10:07:06 AMDoes this extend to black and asian players who are racially abused, and to gay players who experience homophobic abuse too? Should they just 'grow up' too? Or is it only sexism that is okay? Do you really think a bit of wolf whistling 'banter' is the same as hate fueled racism? I use the phrase banter guardedly as I fully appreciate it is not be very nice and of course we could do without it in this day and age, but the terrace chants about female referees and linesmen are generally intended to be good natured (if misguided). Are they really that much worse than calling a referee a c***? Are they really any way near as bad as screaming abuse at black players? Personally I don't think they are.They're aimed at demeaning someone because of what they are rather than what they do, which to me makes them every bit as bad as racism. I can remember when that was just 'banter' as well.
If Chelsea really did cough up five million then she must have had a very strong case. That's all. No need to make her the villain here.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on June 08, 2016, 10:36:07 AMQuote from: chrisw1 on June 08, 2016, 10:19:31 AMQuote from: SheffieldVillain on June 08, 2016, 10:07:06 AMDoes this extend to black and asian players who are racially abused, and to gay players who experience homophobic abuse too? Should they just 'grow up' too? Or is it only sexism that is okay? Do you really think a bit of wolf whistling 'banter' is the same as hate fueled racism? I use the phrase banter guardedly as I fully appreciate it is not be very nice and of course we could do without it in this day and age, but the terrace chants about female referees and linesmen are generally intended to be good natured (if misguided). Are they really that much worse than calling a referee a c***? Are they really any way near as bad as screaming abuse at black players? Personally I don't think they are.They're aimed at demeaning someone because of what they are rather than what they do, which to me makes them every bit as bad as racism. I can remember when that was just 'banter' as well. Dave - I understand what you are saying but disagree with you. A builder wolf whistling a lady walking past a building site is not comparable to someone screaming racist abuse. It may be neither are acceptable in this day and age, but I do think the intent is very different.