Watford FC v Aston Villa (R) - Post Shambles Thread

[brian green]

Not only is the club broken, those in authority do not even acknowledge that it is broken.  They parrot out their comments about coming back to the Premiership when any football fan with half a brain cell in his/her head knows the fundamental, carved in stone truth that it is easier to stay in the Premiership than to get back in it.  Somebody should have tattooed that on Randy Lerner's eyeballs.

[Toronto Villa]

It won't fix magically but this season has to actually end for the repairs to truly start. It will feel hopeless and utterly shit until then.

[Jimbo]

Flabby, Richards, Lescott, Guzan and Bucuna all have to be moved on for this club to even begin to fix itself. That means any new owner is going to have to part with £10-15million before they even begin to fork out for new players. The better players - Ayew, Gana, Amavi - will be gone at a knockdown price, so we'll get some money for them. But there are so many problems to fix, I really don't think anybody really knows where to begin.

[brian green]

Yes TV but the problems are so intractable they could take two seasons of more to be properly rectified.  We have not even got sight of the start of all the changes that need to happen and the new season is only 20 weeks away.

[ciggiesnbeer]

Wow.

[exigo]

It's a weird feeling to be in the away end, watching us win with minutes to go, with no excitement, no belief. It was obvious Deeney was going to come out of nowhere and sink us.

In other news, Vicarage Road is a hell of a lot smaller than it looks on the telly.

[Tony Erdington]

on the positive we scored two goals.

too much wrong here though, Randy will take us to Div 1, it does all look pretty glim

[Toronto Villa]

Yes TV but the problems are so intractable they could take two seasons of more to be properly rectified.  We have not even got sight of the start of all the changes that need to happen and the new season is only 20 weeks away.

Not that I want to sound or appear naive Brian but a lot will change in that span of time. And we don't need to start the season with the work completed we just need to finish it with the job done and promotion secured. The season is a long one and I hope with the right changes we will improve over the next 52 weeks not just the next 20.

[Proposition Joe]

With 2 minutes to go, I wasn't sure how we were going to do it. It looked impossible. But fair play to the lads, they managed to find a way, against all the odds, to lose that one.

The two matches against Watford this season are why we're going down. Even when we play alright, we'll find a way to lose. It's done with such efficiency, it's almost impressive. "Failure Through Adversity" - the season's motto.

Nail on the head. The home match we were better than them but found three highly creative ways of gifting them goals.

And as for this match, I could write loads but am on the mobile and hate typing on these things.

[in exile]

Not only is the club broken, those in authority do not even acknowledge that it is broken.  They parrot out their comments about coming back to the Premiership when any football fan with half a brain cell in his/her head knows the fundamental, carved in stone truth that it is easier to stay in the Premiership than to get back in it.  Somebody should have tattooed that on Randy Lerner's eyeballs.

You have hot the nail straight on the head with this post (for me) old boy

[Steve R]

Yes TV but the problems are so intractable they could take two seasons of more to be properly rectified.  We have not even got sight of the start of all the changes that need to happen and the new season is only 20 weeks away.

I am waiting for the new man to get appointed and start talking about the key role Gabby could have in getting back to where we belong or how he hopes the fans will let bygones be bygones and cut Bacuna some slack.

We have a few players who are actually looking quite good now they have settled in. They will be first out of the door.

[northeast villan]

Less spine than the elephant man. Spat tea when I saw the thread title

[Steve kirk]

Sat in Asda car park listening to footie while Mrs K did the weekly shop, at 89 mins were 2-1 up and im thinking at least the 11 game losing streak wont be matched,  took a walk to the cash point with a couple of people getting money before me, back in car 6 mins later and we've lost 3-2, for the first time in months that gut wrenching feeling returned, I know I should have guessed the outcome but I allowed myself to feel a tiny bit of happiness and thought I might watch MOTD later, why couldent we just produce our regulation 2/3 goal defeat, fuckin shit depressing gut wrenching embarrasing humiliating season from hell.

[croatian]

An owner who is missing in in-action.
No manager.
No club captain, the previous one sacked for behaving like a feral teenager.
No board to run the place in the owners absence.
A squad that requires to be cleaned out.
A player refusing to play.
A player who who would prefer not to play.

It'll take much more than a close season to fix. You can't fix that mess in a couple of months. I'm sure we'll get back to the top flight but it might involve another drop before it happens.

Unthinkable?
Think again.

[brian green]

Agree with you wholeheartedly TV but my prediction that I have posted elsewhere a number of times is that 2016/17 will be a scramble for us to try to get into the play offs .  All the form and the gut feelings tell me that we will not hit the Championship ground running.  We do not have the players or the money to put a winning team together from Day 1.  It is going to be a long hard slog and we only have two or three players who can show the qualities needed for the war of attrition that is the Championship.