I'm not blaming the fans because I don't know whether or not it affects the players, what I am saying is that it affects me.
And another thread goes down the swanny.
Quote from: amfy on April 26, 2016, 01:47:15 PMI'm not blaming the fans because I don't know whether or not it affects the players, what I am saying is that it affects me.Wycombe away - players given dogs abuseNext 4 games won 2 Drew 2RecentlyTottenham H 0-2Chelsea Home 0-4Next 2 home games - players given dogs abuse during gameLost 1-2Lost 2-4So it seems that the dogs abuse and booing is having an impact - a POSITIVE ONEBefore recent abuse 2 defeats 0 goalsAfter recent abuse 2 defeats but goals in both games and scored 2 in a Premier League game for first time since November!!I have been a regular since 1963 and a season ticket holder since 1968 and have always advocated no booing during the game. (Steve Hodge and Nigel Callaghan apart)However over last couple of months I have changed my mind and participate in the booing on each occasion it happens and will continue to do so.The players attitude is the worst I have seen in over 50 years and they (Only certain of the players who do not need to be named - we know who they are) deserve everything they get.They are paid handsomely to perform and give their best each and every time they go on the pitch and when they do not do so they are CHEATING every one of us.And if they continue to get abuse and it does impact negatively on the performance then don't blame the fans blame the 'Caretaker' manager who insists on picking these players.Players are not getting abuse because they are not good enough (which they are not!) they are getting abuse for their attitude and that is a big difference!We are all entitled to our opinion and I am sorry that the booing makes you uncomfortable but watching the players with no pride no passion and no effort makes me uncomfortable and short of not going (not an option after 50 years and paying my money upfront each season) booing is my only way of letting those players know how I feel. End of Rant!
In a thread where every one would like to just pat each other on the back for how great booing feels
Quote from: MalcolmP on April 27, 2016, 02:00:50 PMQuote from: amfy on April 26, 2016, 01:47:15 PMI'm not blaming the fans because I don't know whether or not it affects the players, what I am saying is that it affects me.Wycombe away - players given dogs abuseNext 4 games won 2 Drew 2RecentlyTottenham H 0-2Chelsea Home 0-4Next 2 home games - players given dogs abuse during gameLost 1-2Lost 2-4So it seems that the dogs abuse and booing is having an impact - a POSITIVE ONEBefore recent abuse 2 defeats 0 goalsAfter recent abuse 2 defeats but goals in both games and scored 2 in a Premier League game for first time since November!!I have been a regular since 1963 and a season ticket holder since 1968 and have always advocated no booing during the game. (Steve Hodge and Nigel Callaghan apart)However over last couple of months I have changed my mind and participate in the booing on each occasion it happens and will continue to do so.The players attitude is the worst I have seen in over 50 years and they (Only certain of the players who do not need to be named - we know who they are) deserve everything they get.They are paid handsomely to perform and give their best each and every time they go on the pitch and when they do not do so they are CHEATING every one of us.And if they continue to get abuse and it does impact negatively on the performance then don't blame the fans blame the 'Caretaker' manager who insists on picking these players.Players are not getting abuse because they are not good enough (which they are not!) they are getting abuse for their attitude and that is a big difference!We are all entitled to our opinion and I am sorry that the booing makes you uncomfortable but watching the players with no pride no passion and no effort makes me uncomfortable and short of not going (not an option after 50 years and paying my money upfront each season) booing is my only way of letting those players know how I feel. End of Rant!I don't get how you pick out of my post the bit where I say I'm not blaming the fans, and then tell me not to blame the fans.I don't blame the fans. I don't blame you & totally get what you are saying in your post. I haven't had my season ticket as long as you, I wasn't even aware Villa existed in 1968. I don't want to stop going either but me, it is the toxic atmosphere rather than the dire football that makes me feel like stopping. I think we can agree to disagree because we simply need different things from this chaos. Apart from the misrepresentation of where I apportion blame, the thing I object to in your post is 'End of Rant' - first and foremost because that phrase belongs in the 'things that are fucking annoying thread' and secondly because I read it as your opinion, not a rant til that point, & I don't appreciate being ranted at for having my opinion which even you say I am entitled to.In a thread where every one would like to just pat each other on the back for how great booing feels, I only want to point out that it doesn't feel like that for everyone. I'm not a player, I'm not the Chairman, I'm a fellow fan.
I actually think a lot of the players tried harder than usual this last game to be fair.