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Offline London Villan

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Re: When does the Booing stop....
« Reply #75 on: April 25, 2016, 06:19:54 PM »
What's the excuse for the other sh@te performances?

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Re: When does the Booing stop....
« Reply #76 on: April 25, 2016, 06:27:49 PM »
I think the question should be, "when does the club start caring about football again?"

Booing is a direct result of the clubs stupidity. When that stops so does the booing. Pretty simple.

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Re: When does the Booing stop....
« Reply #77 on: April 25, 2016, 06:28:06 PM »
Not denigrating anyone who boos, but  there is something in me that just  cannot boo  a player wearing the claret and Blue,it just feels wrong.


I don't either but after this season I can't knock anyone that does.

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Re: When does the Booing stop....
« Reply #78 on: April 25, 2016, 06:28:08 PM »
Booing Richards didn't cause him to leap for the ball and miss it completely, it didn't stop Lescott tracking Long who moved five yards off his back to score the first, it didn't cause Guzan to treat the ball like a red hot potato and it didn't cause Bacuna to hit a ball from near the halfway line with no hope of it reaching our box. It could be that the players are just crap but more likely it's because they don't give a shit. If I pay for a meal and it's crap I complain, the only way these twats know I'm not happy with what they are doing is to abuse them loudly.
Shows your utter nativity when it comes to sport.  If you don't think confidence has anything to do with performance, then I can only guess you have never played sport at any level.  Do you think the current atmosphere may not be effecting their confidence at all?  Yes, I know they've been shit all season, but the booing and atmosphere could very well have influenced these exact moments you refer to.

Thanks ChrisW for your valued opinion, I actually played football for 40 years and making an assumption like you have I would be making myself look a fool. There have been numerous instances that I could have picked from games from the beginning of the season where the players were not being booed yet the mistakes were still there.

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Re: When does the Booing stop....
« Reply #79 on: April 25, 2016, 06:35:20 PM »
Not denigrating anyone who boos, but  there is something in me that just  cannot boo  a player wearing the claret and Blue,it just feels wrong.


Me neither.
Mind you, I can't boo anyone of any team - all those years as a primary school headteacher!

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Re: When does the Booing stop....
« Reply #80 on: April 25, 2016, 06:37:55 PM »
Booing Richards didn't cause him to leap for the ball and miss it completely, it didn't stop Lescott tracking Long who moved five yards off his back to score the first, it didn't cause Guzan to treat the ball like a red hot potato and it didn't cause Bacuna to hit a ball from near the halfway line with no hope of it reaching our box. It could be that the players are just crap but more likely it's because they don't give a shit. If I pay for a meal and it's crap I complain, the only way these twats know I'm not happy with what they are doing is to abuse them loudly.
Shows your utter nativity when it comes to sport.  If you don't think confidence has anything to do with performance, then I can only guess you have never played sport at any level.  Do you think the current atmosphere may not be effecting their confidence at all?  Yes, I know they've been shit all season, but the booing and atmosphere could very well have influenced these exact moments you refer to.

Thanks ChrisW for your valued opinion, I actually played football for 40 years and making an assumption like you have I would be making myself look a fool. There have been numerous instances that I could have picked from games from the beginning of the season where the players were not being booed yet the mistakes were still there.
It was a reasonable assumption given you don't seem to be able to join the dots between confidence and performance.  We all know they have been poor all season, but however you want to dress it up the ongoing booing will be further impacting on already frail confidence and can only be counter productive.  Of course having paid your money you have the right to boo and if you enjoy it then so be it.  But don't try to pretend that it isn't having a negative impact on the team, because it is.

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Re: When does the Booing stop....
« Reply #81 on: April 25, 2016, 06:43:39 PM »
I thought it was rather telling of how the Villa supporters judge the players at the Chelsea game. Hutton, despite his lack of quality when sent off was applauded by those in the Trinity Road. They've had a season of 45 minutes to see him close up and recognise he's a player that will always give his all for the club.

We hear so much about the Spurs/West Ham/Liverpool 'way' of playing football, I'd say the 'Villa way', something we not only expect but demand is for the players to give 110% which is why this lazy mob are getting and fully deserve pelters. If we're to stand a chance of surviving next season, nevermind getting promoted, we'll need a team that can give it their all. It's the least we expect.

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Re: When does the Booing stop....
« Reply #82 on: April 25, 2016, 06:44:42 PM »
Booing Richards didn't cause him to leap for the ball and miss it completely, it didn't stop Lescott tracking Long who moved five yards off his back to score the first, it didn't cause Guzan to treat the ball like a red hot potato and it didn't cause Bacuna to hit a ball from near the halfway line with no hope of it reaching our box. It could be that the players are just crap but more likely it's because they don't give a shit. If I pay for a meal and it's crap I complain, the only way these twats know I'm not happy with what they are doing is to abuse them loudly.
Shows your utter nativity when it comes to sport.  If you don't think confidence has anything to do with performance, then I can only guess you have never played sport at any level.  Do you think the current atmosphere may not be effecting their confidence at all?  Yes, I know they've been shit all season, but the booing and atmosphere could very well have influenced these exact moments you refer to.

Thanks ChrisW for your valued opinion, I actually played football for 40 years and making an assumption like you have I would be making myself look a fool. There have been numerous instances that I could have picked from games from the beginning of the season where the players were not being booed yet the mistakes were still there.
It was a reasonable assumption given you don't seem to be able to join the dots between confidence and performance.  We all know they have been poor all season, but however you want to dress it up the ongoing booing will be further impacting on already frail confidence and can only be counter productive.  Of course having paid your money you have the right to boo and if you enjoy it then so be it.  But don't try to pretend that it isn't having a negative impact on the team, because it is.

It really is a bollocks assumption, Alan Hutton may not be the greatest player, he makes mistakes but he tries, he doesn't get booed. Try joining the dots and figure out why. I just wish I was as naive as you appear to be in thinking these guys lack confidence.

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Re: When does the Booing stop....
« Reply #83 on: April 25, 2016, 06:45:13 PM »
Booing Richards didn't cause him to leap for the ball and miss it completely, it didn't stop Lescott tracking Long who moved five yards off his back to score the first, it didn't cause Guzan to treat the ball like a red hot potato and it didn't cause Bacuna to hit a ball from near the halfway line with no hope of it reaching our box. It could be that the players are just crap but more likely it's because they don't give a shit. If I pay for a meal and it's crap I complain, the only way these twats know I'm not happy with what they are doing is to abuse them loudly.
Shows your utter nativity when it comes to sport.  If you don't think confidence has anything to do with performance, then I can only guess you have never played sport at any level.  Do you think the current atmosphere may not be effecting their confidence at all?  Yes, I know they've been shit all season, but the booing and atmosphere could very well have influenced these exact moments you refer to.

Thanks ChrisW for your valued opinion, I actually played football for 40 years and making an assumption like you have I would be making myself look a fool. There have been numerous instances that I could have picked from games from the beginning of the season where the players were not being booed yet the mistakes were still there.
It was a reasonable assumption given you don't seem to be able to join the dots between confidence and performance.  We all know they have been poor all season, but however you want to dress it up the ongoing booing will be further impacting on already frail confidence and can only be counter productive.  Of course having paid your money you have the right to boo and if you enjoy it then so be it.  But don't try to pretend that it isn't having a negative impact on the team, because it is.
Could you not argue it's a resonable assumption to say that if the mistakes and poor performance were there in the first place, it's pointless booing them as it has nil effect?

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Re: When does the Booing stop....
« Reply #84 on: April 25, 2016, 06:48:24 PM »
The booing and the pantomime atmosphere came a long time after the abysmal performances - the players had already given up before a plane was thrown. The crowd has taken so much shit football over the years that something had to give. We're not Villa boo boys, we're not fickle, we've just had enough of under par performances on and off the pitch.
The players can turn the crowd but they need to put some fucking effort in first.

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Re: When does the Booing stop....
« Reply #85 on: April 25, 2016, 06:49:36 PM »
Booing Richards didn't cause him to leap for the ball and miss it completely, it didn't stop Lescott tracking Long who moved five yards off his back to score the first, it didn't cause Guzan to treat the ball like a red hot potato and it didn't cause Bacuna to hit a ball from near the halfway line with no hope of it reaching our box. It could be that the players are just crap but more likely it's because they don't give a shit. If I pay for a meal and it's crap I complain, the only way these twats know I'm not happy with what they are doing is to abuse them loudly.
Shows your utter nativity when it comes to sport.  If you don't think confidence has anything to do with performance, then I can only guess you have never played sport at any level.  Do you think the current atmosphere may not be effecting their confidence at all?  Yes, I know they've been shit all season, but the booing and atmosphere could very well have influenced these exact moments you refer to.

Thanks ChrisW for your valued opinion, I actually played football for 40 years and making an assumption like you have I would be making myself look a fool. There have been numerous instances that I could have picked from games from the beginning of the season where the players were not being booed yet the mistakes were still there.
It was a reasonable assumption given you don't seem to be able to join the dots between confidence and performance.  We all know they have been poor all season, but however you want to dress it up the ongoing booing will be further impacting on already frail confidence and can only be counter productive.  Of course having paid your money you have the right to boo and if you enjoy it then so be it.  But don't try to pretend that it isn't having a negative impact on the team, because it is.

The booing is a reaction to the performances not a reason for them.

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Re: When does the Booing stop....
« Reply #86 on: April 25, 2016, 06:50:47 PM »
Shows your utter nativity when it comes to sport. 

If only we had three wise men and a saviour.

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Re: When does the Booing stop....
« Reply #87 on: April 25, 2016, 06:59:16 PM »
Shows your utter nativity when it comes to sport. 

If only we had three wise men and a saviour.

It will happen when we get a new manger

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Re: When does the Booing stop....
« Reply #88 on: April 25, 2016, 07:00:44 PM »
Booing Richards didn't cause him to leap for the ball and miss it completely, it didn't stop Lescott tracking Long who moved five yards off his back to score the first, it didn't cause Guzan to treat the ball like a red hot potato and it didn't cause Bacuna to hit a ball from near the halfway line with no hope of it reaching our box. It could be that the players are just crap but more likely it's because they don't give a shit. If I pay for a meal and it's crap I complain, the only way these twats know I'm not happy with what they are doing is to abuse them loudly.
Shows your utter nativity when it comes to sport.  If you don't think confidence has anything to do with performance, then I can only guess you have never played sport at any level.  Do you think the current atmosphere may not be effecting their confidence at all?  Yes, I know they've been shit all season, but the booing and atmosphere could very well have influenced these exact moments you refer to.

Thanks ChrisW for your valued opinion, I actually played football for 40 years and making an assumption like you have I would be making myself look a fool. There have been numerous instances that I could have picked from games from the beginning of the season where the players were not being booed yet the mistakes were still there.
It was a reasonable assumption given you don't seem to be able to join the dots between confidence and performance.  We all know they have been poor all season, but however you want to dress it up the ongoing booing will be further impacting on already frail confidence and can only be counter productive.  Of course having paid your money you have the right to boo and if you enjoy it then so be it.  But don't try to pretend that it isn't having a negative impact on the team, because it is.

The booing is a reaction to the performances not a reason for them.
So when Black is reluctant to play the kids because of the toxic atmosphere (as he has gone on record as saying) - is that counter productive? 
Is it not abundantly clear the players confidence is shot?  Is the atmosphere not exacerbating that? 
Are the team more or less likely to play well against Newcastle if the fans get behind them? 
Is Ayew more or less likely to want to stay next year when he sees the ongoing bitter atmosphere? 
This isn't rocket science here.

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Re: When does the Booing stop....
« Reply #89 on: April 25, 2016, 07:01:39 PM »
Us Villa fans have been patient beyond words for years.
Things have snapped now due to blatant and crass behaviour by the certain players.
What are we expected to do when professional footballers have little or no respect for us.

It's got poisonous now because Eric Black continues to put these people out on the pitch.

For me the booing stops if he leaves these people out, puts youngsters in and in turn injects some enthusiasm and passion at Villa Park. Don't care if we lose 0-10 I just don't want to see Bacuna's smug ugly face on a Saturday afternoon thank you.

I don't buy the you're damaging younger players. Frankly it's balls. I don't see Kevin Toner or Andre Green wetting themselves under the pressure.

 


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