Bernstein and King Resign from the Board

[olaftab]

Much as i'd back the pair of them over Randy, it was pretty fucking stupid to criticise your boss on company emails. At least one of them must have been using Villa emails for them to be leaked to Lerner as I seriously doubt the grass would have had access to their personal home emails.

An issue of disloyalty come to fore here. After all Lerner as bad as he is  was their Boss.

[olaftab]

Oh and ps. this on the back of the comments on the OS when King and Bernstein quitting, that "Chairman, Steve Hollis, is currently engaged in extensive negotiations in relation to the sale of the Club".

Why even put that in there?

"Something really bad has happened"

"But hey, here's something to deflect a bit of the attention from us"

That.

I don't trust these people.

Yes Bevington spinning it.

[olaftab]

I'd love to read them. And to find out who leaked them.
Unless Bernstein or King pressed "send all" by mistake and ended up mailing the whole club. We've all done it

Well Villa and most football clubs are fairly small organisations in some areas of the business such as HR, Finance etc. So it is entirely possible that people in those  jobs have double roles such as looking after some bog and drains stuff. In doing that they would have admin rights for the Club IT system and be able to access  most of the email and other computer based information. Clearly someone in that area saw this and felt  that their loyalty/duty was to expose this to the owner. They may even have a task to keep an eye on this sort of stuff with explicit instruction to inform.

[BOB MANSFIELD]

Given the  Man in The USA is so thin-skinned ( everybody tells me ) my guess is that he has vested that task in " The General ". Krulak sifts the inter-waves for critical acclaim of his revered leader and when he finds pooh, he places it steaming in front of his paymaster, I speculate.

[Villa in Denmark]

Much as i'd back the pair of them over Randy, it was pretty fucking stupid to criticise your boss on company emails. At least one of them must have been using Villa emails for them to be leaked to Lerner as I seriously doubt the grass would have had access to their personal home emails.

An issue of disloyalty come to fore here. After all Lerner as bad as he is  was their Boss.

That's true. But as directors, they've also got a duty of care to ensure that the business is run in a responsible manor that doesn't jeopardise it's future.

If they've been discussing how to get around him or bang some sense into him I think that's fair game.

Can you really imagine two serious operators like King and Bernstein, particularly with the miles they've got on the clock, indulging in a childish game of let's see who can come up with the most creative way to call him a f##king wanker with ****** on top.

Or alternatively Lerner has taken offence to them having the temerity to disagree with him and insist on the autonomy they believed they'd been recruited with and.been the one calling them a bunch of ******.

[edgysatsuma89]

I would bet on the 'slagging off' between B and K being nothing more than slightly critical of the c**ty one and his reaction being completely over the top because he is a raging bellend. They are too long in the tooth to be sending childish insults.

[FrankyH]

[PeterWithe]

I would bet on the 'slagging off' between B and K being nothing more than slightly critical of the c**ty one and his reaction being completely over the top because he is a raging bellend. They are too long in the tooth to be sending childish insults.

My guess too.

[themossman]

Given the  Man in The USA is so thin-skinned ( everybody tells me ) my guess is that he has vested that task in " The General ". Krulak sifts the inter-waves for critical acclaim of his revered leader and when he finds pooh, he places it steaming in front of his paymaster, I speculate.

I conclude, Sir, that they are all trying to steal your 'essence'.

[Percy McCarthy]

Oh and ps. this on the back of the comments on the OS when King and Bernstein quitting, that "Chairman, Steve Hollis, is currently engaged in extensive negotiations in relation to the sale of the Club".

Why even put that in there?

"Something really bad has happened"

"But hey, here's something to deflect a bit of the attention from us"

That.

I don't trust these people.

Yes, that's why I thought the club said it. But I see it differently when King says it.

[BOB MANSFIELD]

I haven't read anywhere that they ever actually met ? Maybe they're just Facebook " Friends " ? Or not, now. Is the General still posting there I wonder ? I am not a follower.

[PeterWithesShin]

Given the  Man in The USA is so thin-skinned ( everybody tells me ) my guess is that he has vested that task in " The General ". Krulak sifts the inter-waves for critical acclaim of his revered leader and when he finds pooh, he places it steaming in front of his paymaster, I speculate.

I conclude, Sir, that they are all trying to steal your 'essence'.

Are they Skeksis then?*

*Bonus points for anyone who gets that without using Google!

[old man villa fan]

It may be that B and K had progressed things along the lines of the remit they thought they had, possibly even lining up a manager.  Lerner got wind of it and said something along the lines of "How dare you do this without consulting me first".  Has Lerner's mental health gone from stressed to paranoia?

[adrenachrome]

[The Edge]

Perhaps Randy Lerner just isn't actually very nice?

There's always been this sort of tacit assumption that he's a good bloke but a bit naive and misguided, but none of us actually know him, do we?

The thing is that Mervyn King has worked and dealt with a few pillocks in his time.  For him to throw in the towel and walk away after a few months with Lerner is very worrying.

He had to work with them - it was his job. This is a hobby.

Hobby yes.  But he obviously has a life long passion for Aston Villa and it must be something very severe for him to walk away.  This is a man with a hugely distinguished career behind him don't forget.  I doubt very much he'd want to be tarnished by such toxicity.

I think the answer lies in this comment. Some vindictive arsehole has got hold of this email and decided to do some real shit stirring. Lerner is not accustomed to being criticised so took it badly. I think he has forced the resignations of B&K to save face and any pay off due if they were fired. He quickly lost faith in them when he was told of their distrust and dislike of him. I think the General was bought in to do some digging and report back. Wouldn't surprise me if he was involved in the leaked email. I have no inside track so this is my interpretation of everything we've been privy to in the last few days.