Bernstein and King Resign from the Board

[BOB MANSFIELD]

I have also followed Rangers FC for a long time and that lot went through many twists and turns at board level. It does feel like it is never-ending......and up there it still hasn't.
So I don't hold out much hope that it is finished yet in B6 either.
But like may posters, I also find it incredible that such senior citizens as Bernstein & King would indulge in slagging off the owner in e-mails. Surely they deserve the wrath they suffered, if that was truly the case. Acting like kids. Let's get somebody serious in here. Please ?

[Stu82]

I think the resignations may be the catalysist for the change to happen.
There is obviously great frustration at the highest levels, and B and K may be able to force the much needed change, through higlighting the log jam.
I think what   Mervyn King said on Bloomberg was very encouraging.

[SheffieldVillain]

I have also followed Rangers FC for a long time and that lot went through many twists and turns at board level. It does feel like it is never-ending......and up there it still hasn't.
So I don't hold out much hope that it is finished yet in B6 either.
But like may posters, I also find it incredible that such senior citizens as Bernstein & King would indulge in slagging off the owner in e-mails. Surely they deserve the wrath they suffered, if that was truly the case. Acting like kids. Let's get somebody serious in here. Please ?

There's a difference though between 'slagging off' and 'being critical of'.

If they were writing things like 'he's a cock', fair enough, that's childish. If they were expressing genuine concerns on the situation they were meant to be managing - that's fair enough isn't it?

[Des Little]

True, but let's face it, he is a cock isn't he?

[themossman]

Fucking hell just caught up with this. Initial thoughts are:

1. What kind of pathetic thin skinned c*** is randy, that he would bring about the exit of two high quality board members and further jeopardise our future (responsible steward?! Jog on you c***!) over his bruised ego.

2. On the positive side, if it is just a clash of egos then maybe it doesn't mean we're about to get bought by a North Korean syndicate headed by Ray Ranson.

3. King definitely seems to be keeping his options open for a return under new ownership.

[SheffieldVillain]

True, but let's face it, he is a cock isn't he?

Well, yes, that is a fair point.

[Toronto Villa]

"It is a very proud club with a great tradition, a wonderful fan-base," he said. "It has a terrific future, I think that will come under a different owner, I hope the sale will proceed speedily.

Doesn't seem to imply a sale in progress or not. Very open to different interpretations

I might be being naive but I imagine in his career he has had to be very careful and specific with his choice of words. If you replace "the" with "a" then it completely changes the context of the comment. It's entirely possible that I am looking too hard, or simply begging for this situation to improve, but he seemed pretty definitive in how he delivered that message.

Oh and ps. this on the back of the comments on the OS when King and Bernstein quitting, that "Chairman, Steve Hollis, is currently engaged in extensive negotiations in relation to the sale of the Club".

Why even put that in there?

[ROBBO]

the essence of the problem is the most disturbing and that is that both men felt they were not able to implement changes needed because Lerner was undermining them. Lerner has been the problem with our club from the day he took over, everything he touches turns to shit.

[Lastfootstamper]

I think the resignations may be the catalysist for the change to happen.
There is obviously great frustration at the highest levels, and B and K may be able to force the much needed change, through higlighting the log jam.
I think what   Mervyn King said on Bloomberg was very encouraging.

I wish I still had optimism like yours. With each passing day, I become more convinced that whatever anybody says or does makes not one tiny jot of difference.
Agree with the last bit, though. A straw to clutch at, at least.

[pauliewalnuts]

Oh and ps. this on the back of the comments on the OS when King and Bernstein quitting, that "Chairman, Steve Hollis, is currently engaged in extensive negotiations in relation to the sale of the Club".

Why even put that in there?

"Something really bad has happened"

"But hey, here's something to deflect a bit of the attention from us"

That.

I don't trust these people.

[BOB MANSFIELD]

I have also followed Rangers FC for a long time and that lot went through many twists and turns at board level. It does feel like it is never-ending......and up there it still hasn't.
So I don't hold out much hope that it is finished yet in B6 either.
But like may posters, I also find it incredible that such senior citizens as Bernstein & King would indulge in slagging off the owner in e-mails. Surely they deserve the wrath they suffered, if that was truly the case. Acting like kids. Let's get somebody serious in here. Please ?

There's a difference though between 'slagging off' and 'being critical of'.

If they were writing things like 'he's a cock', fair enough, that's childish. If they were expressing genuine concerns on the situation they were meant to be managing - that's fair enough isn't it?

YES Sheffield, you have a fair point there but all this speculation is not an exact science is it ? Especially given we have no real idea what Lerner read , nor what he replied. We also don't know how he took to their appointments, whether he'd even heard of either of them or whether he gives a monkey's about them and their opinions anyway ! I just find it pretty amazing and I guess more will eventually be unearthed/revealed as time goes on. Meanwhile .....lets continue to enjoy the speculation, eh ?

[Trinitymiddle]

I have also followed Rangers FC for a long time and that lot went through many twists and turns at board level. It does feel like it is never-ending......and up there it still hasn't.
So I don't hold out much hope that it is finished yet in B6 either.
But like may posters, I also find it incredible that such senior citizens as Bernstein & King would indulge in slagging off the owner in e-mails. Surely they deserve the wrath they suffered, if that was truly the case. Acting like kids. Let's get somebody serious in here. Please ?

There's a difference though between 'slagging off' and 'being critical of'.

If they were writing things like 'he's a cock', fair enough, that's childish. If they were expressing genuine concerns on the situation they were meant to be managing - that's fair enough isn't it?

According to the BBC Radio, who broke the story, Lerner "issued a stinging rebuke" to B&K, after they criticised him in a private email conversation, which implies that RL is thin skinned, and was the one doing the name calling. I can't imagine two well respected and honourable businessmen like B&K would be anything other than professional and proper in their business lives.

[SheffieldVillain]

I have also followed Rangers FC for a long time and that lot went through many twists and turns at board level. It does feel like it is never-ending......and up there it still hasn't.
So I don't hold out much hope that it is finished yet in B6 either.
But like may posters, I also find it incredible that such senior citizens as Bernstein & King would indulge in slagging off the owner in e-mails. Surely they deserve the wrath they suffered, if that was truly the case. Acting like kids. Let's get somebody serious in here. Please ?

There's a difference though between 'slagging off' and 'being critical of'.

If they were writing things like 'he's a cock', fair enough, that's childish. If they were expressing genuine concerns on the situation they were meant to be managing - that's fair enough isn't it?

YES Sheffield, you have a fair point there but all this speculation is not an exact science is it ? Especially given we have no real idea what Lerner read , nor what he replied. We also don't know how he took to their appointments, whether he'd even heard of either of them or whether he gives a monkey's about them and their opinions anyway ! I just find it pretty amazing and I guess more will eventually be unearthed/revealed as time goes on. Meanwhile .....lets continue to enjoy the speculation, eh ?

I think 'enjoy' might be overstating it somewhat...!

But yes, I'm sure there will be plenty more to come out in our now daily dose of misery for the next few weeks.

[Stu82]

I think the resignations may be the catalysist for the change to happen.
There is obviously great frustration at the highest levels, and B and K may be able to force the much needed change, through higlighting the log jam.
I think what   Mervyn King said on Bloomberg was very encouraging.

I wish I still had optimism like yours. With each passing day, I become more convinced that whatever anybody says or does makes not one tiny jot of difference.

It is clutching at straws, I know.

Agree with the last bit, though. A straw to clutch at, at least.

[BOB MANSFIELD]

I read in an earlier post that, although their intentions are like ours - all for a revitalised Villa - they may feel they can simply walk away and tell him to " shove it " because they can treat it like a " hobby ". Well, I for one, do not want a board that treats this monumental club like a hobby. Same as I don't want an owner that treats it like an old Christmas toy he's fed up with.
I was there when we had octogenarians running the Villa in the pre-Deadly times. They had no sense of the reality of the changing times and I don't think Lerner has any interest in waking up and smelling the B6 air over his freshly ground beans, either.

Steve Hollis has a job on his hands. But....be careful what you wish for !