Bernstein and King Resign from the Board

[kippaxvilla2]

For the first time in God knows how many years, I am going to the pub in midweek.

[Des Little]

For the first time in God knows how many years, I am going to the pub in midweek.

You want to watch the Scouse derby. Admit it.

[PaulWinch again]

Doesn't sound like a takeover is imminent and definitely sounds like Lerner is clearly still the major problem.

[Malandro]

If it was, for example, them emailing each other from home using hotmail email addresses, how would anyone have been able to grass them up to Lerner?

Be the damn NSA

[passport1]

Not hard to understand why we haven't been sold. Negotiating with Lerner must be a nightmare.

[Witton Warrior]

Saying they were "slagging off" the dim one may well have been after the fashion of Q. What decisions have caused this situation? A. Randy Lerner's decisions and appointments - that's just the truth!

It should be remembered RL has a pathological regard for loyalty (see his support of Lambert against all logic) and this challenges that to the core. I would love to have been witness to a full-blown row between RL and the ex-head of the Bank of England. Rich folks do it all so much better.

[peter w]

If it was, for example, them emailing each other from home using hotmail email addresses, how would anyone have been able to grass them up to Lerner?

Someone could have been copied in who forwarded the email chain either mistakenly or not.

[The_ads]

Either way, I wouldn't junior members of staff whom I employ to be so unprofessional. This is ridiculously small time.

[Villa in Denmark]

The cynic in me wonders is this more Lerner PR bollocks to make him appear like the offended party. The sooner this arsehole departs Aston Villa the better but then I've been saying that for several years now.

I doubt it, B & K would say something if it was bollocks. To me, their resignation letters show they won't take any crap.

Oh I don't doubt that they wouldn't wear his nonsense.  Its just the implication that they were exchanging critical emails which were leaked to Lerner.I am pretty sure that they are savy enough to address any issues formally.

Without knowing how they were critical of Lerner it's difficult to ascertain how much moral outrage might have been due.

If they'd been going at it with

From: Merve the Swerve
To: David Bernstein
cc: Adrian Bevington; Sir Brian Little of B6

Dear David

I share your frustrations.  This prissy little mommy's boy is really starting to get on my tits. And I've put up with fuckwits and outright c***s like Alastair Darling, Gordon Brown, George Osborne and David Cameron for over a decade.
The whole clubs going down the shitter quicker than the output of Jimmy Fivebellies after a double Chicken Phall and bar of Exlax for desert.  If we can't get the twat to sense we'll have to go behind his back. That would of course getting Steve on board and we don't know which side of the fence he's going to sit.

Best Regards

Merve the Swerve

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From:Adrian Bernstein
To: Merve the Swerve
cc: Adrian Bevington; Sir Brian Little of B6
Subject: Our Boss

Dear Mervyn

This yankee eejit really a ginourmous thundercunt. It's getting impossible to do anything with this overbearing twat second guessing our every move.

How the f##k are we going to get anything sensible past this f##ker?

Best Regards

Adrian

Then he'd have every right to be pissed off.

If they'd been expressing frustration or displeasure with the way things were going and pining the blame on Lerner then boo hoo. If Lerner had got anything about him as a boss in that scenario, the correct response would have been to ask why they thought it necessary to play that game instead of coming to him and discussing it, unless they'd already done that in which case the only response is like it or lump it if your not prepared to try and find some common ground.

More interesting is who fed the email.  If it was private e-mail between Bernstein and King, even if it's on a works server, it's pretty much locked down unless Lerner's got a policy of having every email of various employees vetted for key words NSA style.

Alternatively the correspondence was shared with the football board and one of Bevington or SBL did the deed, possibly even with Bernstein and King's blessing to precipitate a shit or get off the pot scenario?

[Jimbo]

A snitch, you say? I smell Paddy Reilly. I bet he wears Fahrenheit.

[phantom limb]

I learned the hard way, never write personal/insulting stuff about your boss, customers or colleagues in a work email, regardless of who you send it to it always ends up with them one way or the other. In my case it was something I'd written 3 years earlier and had forgotten about. If you're going to slag them off, do it verbally!

[Villa in Denmark]

Either way, I wouldn't junior members of staff whom I employ to be so unprofessional. This is ridiculously small time.

I wouldn't call Bernstein and King junior members of staff.

They were potentially the best bet of returning the club to some sense of drive in the right direction, irrespective of Lerner's continued ownership, if he'd let them do their job.

It's just brought to mind an episode of everyone's favourite property programme, Grand Designs where a, ironically enough, Black Country family were converting either a church or water tower, I forget which. It all started off OK, but part way through, inevitably, it starts going wrong.
At this point McLoud asks why the bloke doesn't get in touch with the architect, at which point the bloke, who's doing all the work himself, says something along the lines, yeah we got in touch with an architect after a bit of a false start and spent some time getting some plans and drawings prepared, but it all looked at bit to fancy, and expensive so it's head down and just keep going like we've been doing.
Inevitably the conversion ends up a bit of mess and with them technically insolvent as it's worth a fraction of what they'd thrown into it.

[ciggiesnbeer]

Not hard to understand why we haven't been sold. Negotiating with Lerner must be a nightmare.

Well said.

"I want the very best owner for the club, regardless of money"
"No wait I want a young and hungry owner who will be here long term"
"No I want to only sell from within, to a true Villa fan who gets the club"
"No wait I want top dollar, I am tired of spending my money"
"No wait I just want rid of it, here its yours."
"No wait I am not really a motivated seller now, make me an interesting offer, I might take the call."
"No wait I don't even want to be involved in this process, talk to the new Chairman."
"No Wait I want to make every decision about this."

etc etc

[PeterWithesShin]

If it was, for example, them emailing each other from home using hotmail email addresses, how would anyone have been able to grass them up to Lerner?

Someone could have been copied in who forwarded the email chain either mistakenly or not.

Then they are still stupid. Although it's highly unlikely that they'd a) copy it someone else b) it would be by amazing coincidence someone who would forward it to Lerner.

More chance of Gabby looking like a professional sportsman again than it being that scenario I reckon.

[Percy McCarthy]

King said we are close to a sale on Bloomberg today. Most reliable source who's ever said it surely?