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Author Topic: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board  (Read 167205 times)

Offline cheltenhamlion

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1215 on: April 20, 2016, 12:23:34 PM »
We all know that Lerner is trying to sell. paying compo to another club for the desired manager (or that managers coaching team), paying off contracts of shit players, Hiring other individuals the board have highlighted etc and other cost negative actions drawn up in the recovery plan would be akin to putting new alloys on a car after you have advertised it with a sale price - they cost you money that you will in all probability not recoup in the sale.
 I think the fallout has come from Lerner blocking something in this ilk as he believes he is close to a sale for an agreed value and has closed his wallet. This would give the directors very little to do and possibly make their position untenable. 

Seems reasonable as a guess to me.

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1216 on: April 20, 2016, 12:23:45 PM »
Watching that interview, I'd like to think that Lord King has more to offer as a board member in the future. He certainly has more passion and understanding of Aston Villa than those over-paid mercenary Wazzocks on the pitch

I found myself thinking what a thoroughly good bloke he is.

He truly is one of us.

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1217 on: April 20, 2016, 12:25:02 PM »
Maybe that is it in a nutshell. The radical thinking Bernstein spoke about was paying up of contracts, committing to a budget for an interested manager, implementing changes behind the scenes, the removal of Riley and going back to a scouting system overseen by the manager and/or football board, and despite reassurances, or noises from Lerner or Krulak, that they were going to listen, but when crunch time came - and that may be with a sale in the offing - Lerner either dithered or said no and so they said their position had become untenable as their remit was changed, that they walked.

This is exactly how I'm thinking and I would think the most logical form of action. It would get the fans back for a starters and hopefully would make it a more sellable proposition.

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1218 on: April 20, 2016, 12:26:51 PM »
Surely shrewd players like Bernstein an King would have been given assurances about budget BEFORE they agreed to any job. In my mind, either the budget has changed or a takeover is well advanced, making the re-structuring unnecessary. Given that they've only been there a couple of months and Lerner's history, I'd be inclined to say its the former, but obviously I'm praying it's the latter.

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1219 on: April 20, 2016, 12:28:35 PM »
Watching that interview, I'd like to think that Lord King has more to offer as a board member in the future. He certainly has more passion and understanding of Aston Villa than those over-paid mercenary Wazzocks on the pitch

I found myself thinking what a thoroughly good bloke he is.

He truly is one of us.

Same. Congratulations Randy for now succeeding in forcing a dedicated fan and world class professional to quit the board. How many clubs does he think would be lucky enough to have someone like King just offer their services? And now we don't have that.

Fucking hell are we badly run. The only positive is that King sounded to me like he's sure there's a sale in the offing. That's my comfort right now.

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1220 on: April 20, 2016, 12:30:17 PM »
We all know that Lerner is trying to sell. paying compo to another club for the desired manager (or that managers coaching team), paying off contracts of shit players, Hiring other individuals the board have highlighted etc and other cost negative actions drawn up in the recovery plan would be akin to putting new alloys on a car after you have advertised it with a sale price - they cost you money that you will in all probability not recoup in the sale.
 I think the fallout has come from Lerner blocking something in this ilk as he believes he is close to a sale for an agreed value and has closed his wallet. This would give the directors very little to do and possibly make their position untenable. 

Seems reasonable as a guess to me.

So why would they resign in what seems to be a fairly angry way rather than thinking "I wonder if the new owners might need a couple of extremely experienced people to help".

It's not as if all our problems are suddenly going to vanish as soon as a new owner arrives.

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1221 on: April 20, 2016, 12:34:41 PM »
Watching that interview, I'd like to think that Lord King has more to offer as a board member in the future. He certainly has more passion and understanding of Aston Villa than those over-paid mercenary Wazzocks on the pitch

I found myself thinking what a thoroughly good bloke he is.

He truly is one of us.

Same. Congratulations Randy for now succeeding in forcing a dedicated fan and world class professional to quit the board. How many clubs does he think would be lucky enough to have someone like King just offer their services? And now we don't have that.

Fucking hell are we badly run. The only positive is that King sounded to me like he's sure there's a sale in the offing. That's my comfort right now.

Randy don't need no pansy-assed limey bank clerk telling him what to do when he's got a mutha fucking General on the board.

Offline IAmTheOneIanOlney

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1222 on: April 20, 2016, 12:35:21 PM »
Surely shrewd players like Bernstein an King would have been given assurances about budget BEFORE they agreed to any job. In my mind, either the budget has changed or a takeover is well advanced, making the re-structuring unnecessary. Given that they've only been there a couple of months and Lerner's history, I'd be inclined to say its the former, but obviously I'm praying it's the latter.
Yeah, I think the former too - surely if a sale was close now, the process would have been well underway six weeks ago and all scenarios covered when the new people joined.

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1223 on: April 20, 2016, 12:35:48 PM »
Yes, we aren't seeing anything like the full picture here. Unless something has happened after the resignation letters were published.

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1224 on: April 20, 2016, 12:36:05 PM »
We all know that Lerner is trying to sell. paying compo to another club for the desired manager (or that managers coaching team), paying off contracts of shit players, Hiring other individuals the board have highlighted etc and other cost negative actions drawn up in the recovery plan would be akin to putting new alloys on a car after you have advertised it with a sale price - they cost you money that you will in all probability not recoup in the sale.
 I think the fallout has come from Lerner blocking something in this ilk as he believes he is close to a sale for an agreed value and has closed his wallet. This would give the directors very little to do and possibly make their position untenable. 

Seems reasonable as a guess to me.
It's not as if all our problems are suddenly going to vanish as soon as a new owner arrives.

No, but the main one will.

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1225 on: April 20, 2016, 12:36:15 PM »
On a separate and on a rather juvenile note I keep wanting to say Stadler and Waldorf instead of Bernstein and King.

I was thinking Rosenkrantz and Guildenstern, but yours is much better.

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1226 on: April 20, 2016, 12:38:30 PM »
We all know that Lerner is trying to sell. paying compo to another club for the desired manager (or that managers coaching team), paying off contracts of shit players, Hiring other individuals the board have highlighted etc and other cost negative actions drawn up in the recovery plan would be akin to putting new alloys on a car after you have advertised it with a sale price - they cost you money that you will in all probability not recoup in the sale.
 I think the fallout has come from Lerner blocking something in this ilk as he believes he is close to a sale for an agreed value and has closed his wallet. This would give the directors very little to do and possibly make their position untenable. 

Seems reasonable as a guess to me.

So why would they resign in what seems to be a fairly angry way rather than thinking "I wonder if the new owners might need a couple of extremely experienced people to help".

It's not as if all our problems are suddenly going to vanish as soon as a new owner arrives.

Maybe they were involved in a bid for the club and Randy has opted for another one??

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1227 on: April 20, 2016, 12:42:21 PM »
We all know that Lerner is trying to sell. paying compo to another club for the desired manager (or that managers coaching team), paying off contracts of shit players, Hiring other individuals the board have highlighted etc and other cost negative actions drawn up in the recovery plan would be akin to putting new alloys on a car after you have advertised it with a sale price - they cost you money that you will in all probability not recoup in the sale.
 I think the fallout has come from Lerner blocking something in this ilk as he believes he is close to a sale for an agreed value and has closed his wallet. This would give the directors very little to do and possibly make their position untenable. 

Seems reasonable as a guess to me.
It's not as if all our problems are suddenly going to vanish as soon as a new owner arrives.

No, but the main one will.

It will. But that doesn't change my point at all.

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1228 on: April 20, 2016, 12:42:31 PM »
We all know that Lerner is trying to sell. paying compo to another club for the desired manager (or that managers coaching team), paying off contracts of shit players, Hiring other individuals the board have highlighted etc and other cost negative actions drawn up in the recovery plan would be akin to putting new alloys on a car after you have advertised it with a sale price - they cost you money that you will in all probability not recoup in the sale.
 I think the fallout has come from Lerner blocking something in this ilk as he believes he is close to a sale for an agreed value and has closed his wallet. This would give the directors very little to do and possibly make their position untenable. 

Seems reasonable as a guess to me.

So why would they resign in what seems to be a fairly angry way rather than thinking "I wonder if the new owners might need a couple of extremely experienced people to help".

It's not as if all our problems are suddenly going to vanish as soon as a new owner arrives.

Maybe they were involved in a bid for the club and Randy has opted for another one??

If they were involved in a bid for the club, there's no way they'd have been on the board in the first place.

Offline chrisf

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1229 on: April 20, 2016, 12:51:46 PM »
Lerner has been in two minds about selling the club for, what is it? Four years now?

There is a credible buyer in contact but Lerner is still trying to hedge his bets. He'll sell 'at the right price' but he's got this restructuring going on anyway which he's using to strengthen his hand with the buyer.

King and Bernstein tell him that if he's serious about the restructuring, he has to e.g. employ Moyes now otherwise he's going to Celtic. Lerner looks in his wallet and his bluff is called.

King and Bernstein see the whole restructuring business was a bluff and walk away thereby forcing Lerner into the sale.

 


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