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Author Topic: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board  (Read 167670 times)

Offline Irish villain

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1020 on: April 19, 2016, 06:29:27 PM »
Lerner cast us adrift a long time ago, not King and Bernstein.

Definitely agree and it makes me wonder just how much we as fans don't really know what's been going on behind closed doors for the past 5 years...
I honestly believe Lerner has gagged, tied, manipulated and mislead Managers, Board members and fans but has got away with it through smoke and mirrors tactics...
Yesterday's resignations should have woken every fan up to the simple fact that the problem lies with Lerner and only Lerner and his awful decision making...
We are cycling through Managers, Board members and staff at an alarming rate and their all failing/leaving but the common factor is Lerner...


I would say every manager who worked under Lerner could tell an interesting story. Of course, Lerner is so lawyered up they can't . I hope that King and Bernstein might be able to show some independence and reveal what exactly has been going on. Lerner is toxic.

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1021 on: April 19, 2016, 06:29:28 PM »
We need a Hodgson report.

Exactly, more insightful  stuff from HH would be great.  Ideally in green crayon:

Recruit a better manager
Buy better players
use better tactics
develop better youth players.

The guy is a football genius and we shouldn't let his knowledge go to waste.

Any reports of Ray Ranson meeting him on his yacht?

I think that meeting might be postponed

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1022 on: April 19, 2016, 06:30:07 PM »
Something does not quite add up to me. When they were recruited surely the way forward was discussed but then when it comes to trying to implement a plan they appear to have been blocked so have resigned as a consequence.

So far though, Hollis, Bevington and Little remain in place. Were they lied to or did those remaining disagree or were they in agreement but are trying to rescue the situation? It's an omnishambles, the next recruit has to be Malcolm Tucker.



It looks like some of their recommendations were followed (Fox, Almstadt, Garde).

I can't imagine Paddy Reilly would have got a pass from them following our abysmal business last summer, but if he has Lerner's ear like Faulkner and co used to, Lerner might have just stonewalled that particular recommendation.

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1023 on: April 19, 2016, 06:36:06 PM »
Something does not quite add up to me. When they were recruited surely the way forward was discussed but then when it comes to trying to implement a plan they appear to have been blocked so have resigned as a consequence.

So far though, Hollis, Bevington and Little remain in place. Were they lied to or did those remaining disagree or were they in agreement but are trying to rescue the situation? It's an omnishambles, the next recruit has to be Malcolm Tucker.


Sounds familiar, exactly the same thing happened to Garde Promised funds in January and then had the rug completely pulled from under him.
The whole situation sickens me to the stomach

It makes me wonder what Hollis, Bevington and Little have been doing today.

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1024 on: April 19, 2016, 06:42:24 PM »
Something does not quite add up to me. When they were recruited surely the way forward was discussed but then when it comes to trying to implement a plan they appear to have been blocked so have resigned as a consequence.

So far though, Hollis, Bevington and Little remain in place. Were they lied to or did those remaining disagree or were they in agreement but are trying to rescue the situation? It's an omnishambles, the next recruit has to be Malcolm Tucker.


Sounds familiar, exactly the same thing happened to Garde Promised funds in January and then had the rug completely pulled from under him.
The whole situation sickens me to the stomach

It makes me wonder what Hollis, Bevington and Little have been doing today.

Probably typing up their letters ready.

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1025 on: April 19, 2016, 06:43:44 PM »
Something does not quite add up to me. When they were recruited surely the way forward was discussed but then when it comes to trying to implement a plan they appear to have been blocked so have resigned as a consequence.

So far though, Hollis, Bevington and Little remain in place. Were they lied to or did those remaining disagree or were they in agreement but are trying to rescue the situation? It's an omnishambles, the next recruit has to be Malcolm Tucker.


Sounds familiar, exactly the same thing happened to Garde Promised funds in January and then had the rug completely pulled from under him.
The whole situation sickens me to the stomach

It makes me wonder what Hollis, Bevington and Little have been doing today.


Crying in their coffee and sending all sorts of messages back and forth to Chez Lerner. (Unless they've got his mothers e-mail address)

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1026 on: April 19, 2016, 06:49:31 PM »
Something does not quite add up to me. When they were recruited surely the way forward was discussed but then when it comes to trying to implement a plan they appear to have been blocked so have resigned as a consequence.

So far though, Hollis, Bevington and Little remain in place. Were they lied to or did those remaining disagree or were they in agreement but are trying to rescue the situation? It's an omnishambles, the next recruit has to be Malcolm Tucker.


Sounds familiar, exactly the same thing happened to Garde Promised funds in January and then had the rug completely pulled from under him.
The whole situation sickens me to the stomach

It makes me wonder what Hollis, Bevington and Little have been doing today.


Crying in their coffee and sending all sorts of messages back and forth to Chez Lerner. (Unless they've got his mothers e-mail address)

Randolph Jnr has probably had his iPad confiscated.

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1027 on: April 19, 2016, 06:58:05 PM »
Something does not quite add up to me. When they were recruited surely the way forward was discussed but then when it comes to trying to implement a plan they appear to have been blocked so have resigned as a consequence.

So far though, Hollis, Bevington and Little remain in place. Were they lied to or did those remaining disagree or were they in agreement but are trying to rescue the situation? It's an omnishambles, the next recruit has to be Malcolm Tucker.


Sounds familiar, exactly the same thing happened to Garde Promised funds in January and then had the rug completely pulled from under him.
The whole situation sickens me to the stomach

It makes me wonder what Hollis, Bevington and Little have been doing today.

Probably typing up their letters ready.
Well, somebody's been led up the garden path.
Unless there's been a huge fall out within the Board, I don't quite understand how 2 people can leave under the stated circumstances and the others stay.

I don't want people to leave!
However, I am wondering about the split and what the stayers see as their game plan if Randy et al are not listening to recommendations.

I'm also really worried about our Club, like us all.

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1028 on: April 19, 2016, 07:10:31 PM »
What is the point of putting those letters of resignation out in the public. Is there anybody left inside Aston Villa with some dignity?

If you want those letters out there then just tell the whole fuckin story you quitters

They were protecting their professional integrity and pointing the finger of blame. I'm glad they did it.
Yes protecting themselves and blaming others.

Blaming the person who actually deserves it you mean?
Yes may be but giving up and pointing fingers does not fix anything. King needed to stick around and fix the issue.

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1029 on: April 19, 2016, 07:11:22 PM »
A lot of people have been posting their pictures from a year ago today. I would have never thought we'd be in this position after that match. In fact, although we were definitely going to be relegated four days later, I would have never have thought we'd be in this position a week ago. What the hell are we going to be like at the end of this week?

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1030 on: April 19, 2016, 07:15:07 PM »
I'm not worried about where we were a year ago. I know why we are here. I am seriously worried about where this once mighty club will be a year from now.

Offline peter w

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1031 on: April 19, 2016, 07:17:45 PM »
Says it all that at a time when our next appointment is the most crucial for a long time we're left preoccupied by people leaving.

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1032 on: April 19, 2016, 07:21:11 PM »
What is the point of putting those letters of resignation out in the public. Is there anybody left inside Aston Villa with some dignity?

If you want those letters out there then just tell the whole fuckin story you quitters

They were protecting their professional integrity and pointing the finger of blame. I'm glad they did it.
Yes protecting themselves and blaming others.

Blaming the person who actually deserves it you mean?
Yes may be but giving up and pointing fingers does not fix anything. King needed to stick around and fix the issue.

How do you fix the issue? Effectively the club is run by one single person (or maybe his mum). He has picked up his ball and refusing to to play anymore (or been told to come in and concentrate on something more worthwhile).

The only silver lining is perhaps his willingness to sell it at a cheaper price, although this also means that we could be affordable to any old leveraged up crackpot rich bloke.


Offline aj2k77

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1033 on: April 19, 2016, 07:25:28 PM »
Something does not quite add up to me. When they were recruited surely the way forward was discussed but then when it comes to trying to implement a plan they appear to have been blocked so have resigned as a consequence.

So far though, Hollis, Bevington and Little remain in place. Were they lied to or did those remaining disagree or were they in agreement but are trying to rescue the situation? It's an omnishambles, the next recruit has to be Malcolm Tucker.


Sounds familiar, exactly the same thing happened to Garde Promised funds in January and then had the rug completely pulled from under him.
The whole situation sickens me to the stomach

It makes me wonder what Hollis, Bevington and Little have been doing today.


Nothing, there has been a hell of a lot of nothing going on down their for years. Twiddling thumbs, wondering what to do when you're in over your head.

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #1034 on: April 19, 2016, 07:30:06 PM »
What is the point of putting those letters of resignation out in the public. Is there anybody left inside Aston Villa with some dignity?

If you want those letters out there then just tell the whole fuckin story you quitters

They were protecting their professional integrity and pointing the finger of blame. I'm glad they did it.
Yes protecting themselves and blaming others.

Blaming the person who actually deserves it you mean?
Yes may be but giving up and pointing fingers does not fix anything. King needed to stick around and fix the issue.

What if it couldn't be fixed?

King was doing the job because it was his club, just like it's yours and mine. He's got 50 odd years emotional investment it, and you would think knows what he's doing in that sort of environment, especially working alongside Bernstein.

How much shit would you be prepared to put up with to try and help fix the club, right now? How much, bullshit, bollocks and how many lies would it take to make you walk away?

That's what's worrying A fan of 50 years + standing and bloke who also has a familial attachment to the club walk away.
Two men who've got a wealth of experience in how to get thinks done, but also you'd assume how to smooth the way in selling unpopular ideas. They'd also have an idea of what sort of solutions would instantly be unacceptable based on their initial remit.

I can't see anything other than they've worked within their remit, presented what they believe to be a sensible way forward and been told go away, that's not happening. What's worse is that it sounds like the person who said no wasn't even the person they were lead to believe was making the final decisions.

At which point, what is the point?  You either chew shit and return with something that you don't believe is the right way forwards, or you say OK, we'll have to agree to disagree and good luck in the future.

 


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