Seats on 7

[PeterWithesShin]

So you agree I didn't say that then.

[SheffieldVillain]

How about writing "prepared" on banners for Bournemouth. Let cock-end Lerner know how we feel about his latest pisstake

How do 'we' feel?

[Chico Hamilton III]

Fuck me, another bout of semantic jousting.

[SheffieldVillain]

Fuck me, another bout of semantic jousting.

Not really, just making the point that you're assuming that everyone shares your views.

[Chico Hamilton III]

Ok, well done

[Comrade Blitz]

What I don't get is lambasting or ridiculing the group rather than just putting across an opinion and letting them, and those that wish to follow the protest, just get on with it. It's for the right reasons after all.

Exactly - well said.

[saunders_heroes]

What I don't get is lambasting or ridiculing the group rather than just putting across an opinion and letting them, and those that wish to follow the protest, just get on with it. It's for the right reasons after all.

Exactly - well said.

Agreed. It's the sneering at the protesters I just don't get.

[Mouse Potato]

And that's my point. It looked good. People talked about it. And nothing changed.

As others have pointed out, why should 'change' be a barometer of success?

Because the protest organisers have said they want change. If they didn't and all they wanted to do was complain about what's happening then they're a success. If you're making demands then if you don't get what you want then equally you've failed.

But you have to shoot to score a goal Dave.  It might not go in but if you don't have a pop you'll get nout.

[PeterWithesShin]

What sneering, lambasting etc is that then? A couple of people said days ago that they like the sound of their voices and that's it. Lots of others like me have said this idea is crap but the banner protest was great and worked very well and they should have continued that and built momentum with it for the last few games.

[Chris Jameson]

I don't know that there is any sneering, the banners idea was great and worked well but any idea that involves going in early or leaving early isn't going to be effective in a stadium with thousands of empty seats.

[AVH87]

They should have just done the banners again, only thing they are guilty of is probably trying to be a bit too creative. They certainly deserve praise for their efforts so far though, much harder to do what they are doing than just stop going to games like a fair few have done.

[dave.woodhall]

And that's my point. It looked good. People talked about it. And nothing changed.

As others have pointed out, why should 'change' be a barometer of success?

Because the protest organisers have said they want change. If they didn't and all they wanted to do was complain about what's happening then they're a success. If you're making demands then if you don't get what you want then equally you've failed.

But you have to shoot to score a goal Dave.  It might not go in but if you don't have a pop you'll get nout.

As Flashman put it, never give an order you aren't certain will be carried out. And never make a demand that can't be met at least halfway. If the protestors said their aim was to show that we're mad as hell and we're not going to take it, it's succeeded. They've got publicity. But they released some lengthy list of demands that won't be met, therefore they've failed.

[Chris Harte]

What sneering, lambasting etc is that then? A couple of people said days ago that they like the sound of their voices and that's it. Lots of others like me have said this idea is crap but the banner protest was great and worked very well and they should have continued that and built momentum with it for the last few games.

I think there was plenty of sneering prior to the original protest (out the door on 74) - stuff along the lines of "what are they doing that for?" "Lerner wants to sell" and "it won't change anything."

Sometimes there's no harm in giving the target of the protesters a little metaphorical dig in the ribs. And to be fair both protests got a fair amount of coverage.

[Clampy]

What sneering, lambasting etc is that then? A couple of people said days ago that they like the sound of their voices and that's it. Lots of others like me have said this idea is crap but the banner protest was great and worked very well and they should have continued that and built momentum with it for the last few games.

I think there was plenty of sneering prior to the original protest (out the door on 74) - stuff along the lines of "what are they doing that for?" "Lerner wants to sell" and "it won't change anything."

Sometimes there's no harm in giving the target of the protesters a little metaphorical dig in the ribs. And to be fair both protests got a fair amount of coverage.

I wouldn't call that 'sneering' as such, just questioning it.

[in exile]

I'll be holding up last weeks banner for a couple of minuets on 74