Seats on 7

[amfy]

I don't expect you to take it with a shrug of the shoulders. I've said I've no problem with the protests.

My final paragraph starts with the word 'personally' for a reason. I would like to try and see my support of Astom Villa as being part of a story which includes up and downs. I am not happy about the downs. Even 'personally' I won't accept it with no noise at all. I am just tired of being angry - and that is my right as much as it is anyone else's to carry being angry.
 
Never mind Arsenal or anyone else - no one likes being relegated - no one, and it pretty much always happens to clubs that have been badly run one way or another. I give other club's supporters the respect of believing they hurt for their clubs as much as we do for ours, not that it was alright when 'littler' clubs got relegated but it's not alright for us.

[peter w]

It's not just Amfy, I've heard the 'relegation happens' line elsewhere. It does happen, to clubs that allow it.

Well it does. For anyone over 60 this will be our 5th relegation. It's shit but it does happen, even to us.

And no one has said don't protest or just take relegation and say nothing. Most saying that they think this stay away for 7 mins idea is a bit crap, which it is in my opinion for reasons i've said earlier in the thread, have said the banner protest was great and a success.

I'm struggling to link the chain here though. Teams get relegated, yes, so are some saying we should just get a grip? That we can protest but only on their terms? That we can protest but don't do it differently every week because it's all a bit shit and anyway clubs get relegated all of the time? I seriously am struggling to get the point. I couldn't give two shits about any other team. Fuck them all. I'd like to demonstrate, cause mayhem and wanton destruction, when we lose a game never mind this mind-numbing, humiliating, wretched excuse of a club and team that Lerner et al have turned us into.

Yes relegation happens but it's not for someone as grand as Aston Villa. That it is, again, and in such a spineless way, should see us all reaching for the night nurse if not the semi automatics.

[PeterWithesShin]

Strikes me as pretty easy follow, although you were so way off the mark i'm tempted to change your username to Gabby A 

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

Fuck the board, they are never going to listen and the protests so far should've made our feelings clear. These players are the ones who have let us down and the Gang of Four need to be booed, heckled and abused at their every touch. Fuck the fuckers. I want to see these shits going off the pitch in tears. As Jimbo said, give them hell. Fuck the fuckers.

[peter w]

Gabby ? Fuck off. At least I tried...

[olaftab]

getting relegated was ok.

There it is
In black and white. I have quoted you it's easy😥

[PeterWithesShin]

getting relegated was ok.

There it is
In black and white. I have quoted you it's easy😥

Pffffft, away with ye Affers.

[Jimbo]

Also, for the remaining matches, this is our chance to vent our spleen, to get it all off our chests, to bring up all the bile. Because from the first match next season the club, the team and the fans are going to have pull together as one. Let there be no residue of our anger and disgust creeping into the new campaign, because it's going to be tough.

[DeKuip]

Can you imagine the fun we'd all be having over on the 'the Gift..." thread if our friends from Small Heath had come up with such a daft idea for a protest.
Mind you they'd have to come in after zero minutes.

[GarTomas]

I'm neither in favour or against the protests; but when I read them defined them as a success? I question what the definition of success is.

[dave.woodhall]

I'm neither in favour or against the protests; but when I read them defined them as a success? I question what the definition of success is.

That's the thing about modern internet-based protest. Success isn't about getting what you wanted, it's how good your protest looked.

[Nelly]

I'm neither in favour or against the protests; but when I read them defined them as a success? I question what the definition of success is.

That's the thing about modern internet-based protest. Success isn't about getting what you wanted, it's how good your protest looked.

I'd argue that making a protest visually striking makes it instantly apparent that people are actually protesting. If it 'looked good'  then perhaps people will remember it and talk about it which is to say the protest highlighted our issues.

[Jimbo]

I'm neither in favour or against the protests; but when I read them defined them as a success? I question what the definition of success is.

That's the thing about modern internet-based protest. Success isn't about getting what you wanted, it's how good your protest looked.

I'd argue that making a protest visually striking makes it instantly apparent that people are actually protesting. If it 'looked good'  then perhaps people will remember it and talk about it which is to say the protest highlighted our issues.

Which is the sensible answer. Did anyone think the Gulf War protests would actually stop the war? Perhaps not, but they were a massive show of disapproval for it, which is all the powerless can legally do. Which is a whole lot better than doing nothing.

[Clampy]

This latest one (for this weekend) for me just came across as them wanting to do another one for the sake of it. It's as if they sat round for a few hours and tried to think of something and it was the best they could come up with.

I'm by no means saying they should stop, but sometimes you need to take stock and let things settle a bit.

[Jimbo]

I agree that the seats protest isn't a good idea, but think they should keep up the protests in other forms (banners, towels, etc.) with increasing intensity until the end of the season. Get it all off our chests while we can. The protests will have to stop at the start of next season if we're to have any hope of making a positive impact. Now is the time.