Seats on 7

[Hookeysmith]

I think no vitriol should be against the board. Hollis has formed a team of some pretty handy people and we look like we may have got the balance right off the pitch finally. Obviously the true test will be in the Manager recruitment where we have failed so often in the past.

The next will be investment - and for all his ills whilst he is still owner we need his cash - so I suggest we ease off a little until a deal is done or we hear from him plus I am very fearful of him "paying us back for the protests" by handing it over to some broke loony tune, and there are plenty of them out there

Now the players - give them fucking hell as to a man they have been a disgrace

[MillerBall]

"Proud History - Dim owner!"

[MillerBall]

"Proud History - shite team"

[Bottom Right 89]

I'm sure the players also realise how badly they've let us down

Really?

Being booed onto the pitch by your own fans, barracked from the sidelines for 90 minutes, chants of your not fit to wear the shirt - do you think they can't hear it? do you think they don't read the papers or listen to the abusive calls on the radio or the embarrassing post mortems on match of the day? I doubt there is one of these lads that doesn't feel ashamed of the part they've played in all this.

[Chico Hamilton III]

I'm sure the players also realise how badly they've let us down

Really?

Being booed onto the pitch by your own fans, barracked from the sidelines for 90 minutes, chants of your not fit to wear the shirt - do you think they can't hear it? do you think they don't read the papers or listen to the abusive calls on the radio or the embarrassing post mortems on match of the day? I doubt there is one of these lads that doesn't feel ashamed of the part they've played in all this.

Of course they hear it, I just think they honestly believe that the fans are singing it about other members of the team. Otherwise, why haven't the idle pricks done anything about it? I expect them to get even worse stick in the forthcoming games, inshalla

[amfy]

I'm sure the players also realise how badly they've let us down

Really?

Being booed onto the pitch by your own fans, barracked from the sidelines for 90 minutes, chants of your not fit to wear the shirt - do you think they can't hear it? do you think they don't read the papers or listen to the abusive calls on the radio or the embarrassing post mortems on match of the day? I doubt there is one of these lads that doesn't feel ashamed of the part they've played in all this.

Of course they hear it, I just think they honestly believe that the fans are singing it about other members of the team. Otherwise, why haven't the idle pricks done anything about it? I expect them to get even worse stick in the forthcoming games, inshalla

So how does this protest, or any of the others, let any of them know that we mean them? It doesn't do anymore than the other stuff.

The banners was fine. Watch the match, hold up a pre-printed message  on 74 mins or write your own to them. Added value of paper plane competition for the last quarter of an hour if you don't leave at that point. I don't know why we have to keep changing it.

I think it's the 'something new every week' element that underlies Clampy's comment which people took offence too (liking the sound of their own voice). I totally get why people want to protest even if I can't always see the point & fair play to anyone who tries to do something, but it just needs to be a protest, it doesn't have to be a way of showing how many different kinds of protest you can think of.

Look what's happened here you start a thread saying  'seats on 7' & people start saying let's throw towels on the pitch. Why don't we just stick with - hold up a banner & walk at 74? People have got that.

Personally though, at this stage, I think I'd just like to try & remember this is what I do for fun, & laugh like I did at Alan Hutton when we shouted 'Shoot!' & stop being so angry like it's the end of the world. It isn't. Teams get relegated. Sometimes it's you.

[Chico Hamilton III]

I'm sure the players also realise how badly they've let us down

Really?

Being booed onto the pitch by your own fans, barracked from the sidelines for 90 minutes, chants of your not fit to wear the shirt - do you think they can't hear it? do you think they don't read the papers or listen to the abusive calls on the radio or the embarrassing post mortems on match of the day? I doubt there is one of these lads that doesn't feel ashamed of the part they've played in all this.

Of course they hear it, I just think they honestly believe that the fans are singing it about other members of the team. Otherwise, why haven't the idle pricks done anything about it? I expect them to get even worse stick in the forthcoming games, inshalla

So how does this protest, or any of the others, let any of them know that we mean them? It doesn't do anymore than the other stuff.

The banners was fine. Watch the match, hold up a pre-printed message  on 74 mins or write your own to them. Added value of paper plane competition for the last quarter of an hour if you don't leave at that point. I don't know why we have to keep changing it.

I think it's the 'something new every week' element that underlies Clampy's comment which people took offence too (liking the sound of their own voice). I totally get why people want to protest even if I can't always see the point & fair play to anyone who tries to do something, but it just needs to be a protest, it doesn't have to be a way of showing how many different kinds of protest you can think of.


Personally though, at this stage, I think I'd just like to try & remember this is what I do for fun, & laugh like I did at Alan Hutton when we shouted 'Shoot!' & stop being so angry like it's the end of the world. It isn't. Teams get relegated. Sometimes it's you.

I'm suggesting that everyone does what they want and makes whatever point they want. Clampy can stick his hands in his ears and try and ignore it for all I care. Personally though, I'm not prepared to accept what we've been dished up in the last few seasons and would prefer to articulate that by giving the players and earful of abuse. If they don't like it, fine, it's not the end of the world.

[Jimbo]

They all know we're not happy with them, so we don't need to tell them. So presumably, should we ever score a goal again, we won't have to celebrate it because they already know we're happy. Just pay the money, sit there, buy programmes and refreshments and merchandise and be good fans.

No. We've been taken the piss out of for far too long by the club and players, and they should go into the close season in no doubt whatsoever that they should never, ever try to pull any shit like that again. Give them hell. 

[Nelly]

I think it's quite harsh to criticise them for trying to come up with imaginative ways to show our collective displeasure. I see it as a chance for people to collectively express their dismay. I also think had the club been run with an iota of common sense we would not be being relegated, so to protest that is totally fair enough for me.

We've been placid for a long time, I can understand people being irate now. Especially as there are no guarantees for a club of any size that doesn't have mega money. To squander our league status so easily is pretty disgraceful in my opinion.

[Jimbo]

Teams get relegated. Sometimes it's you.

At least we can look forward to Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchesters City and United, Everton and Tottenham getting relegated soon. Won't be long now. Get your popcorn.

[Nelly]

Teams get relegated. Sometimes it's you.

At least we can look forward to Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchesters City and United, Everton and Tottenham getting relegated soon. Won't be long now. Get your popcorn.

This. We were in the same bracket as these clubs only a few years ago and have completely pissed it away.

[PeterWithesShin]

Teams get relegated. Sometimes it's you.

At least we can look forward to Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchesters City and United, Everton and Tottenham getting relegated soon. Won't be long now. Get your popcorn.

4 of them have been relegated in my time. Everton dodged it under dubious circumstances.

[Jimbo]

I was talking to a bluenose last weekend. He told me Villa are the biggest club north of London, and south of Liverpool. He went on to tell me Villa fans' trouble is our expectations are too high. So what exactly should fans of the biggest club between London and Liverpool expect? At the very least, when you've been established in the top division for over 20 years, and had hundreds of millions to play with, you'd expect to stay in that division. Minimum requirement. That's why I don't buy this 'it happens to every team' line. If that's true, I really can't wait for Man United's day. That'll be soon, right? 

[Risso]

The banners at the weekend got a ton of press, and so at the very least it's shown the world that we give a shit.  People who don't want to join in don't have to, but I'm glad that they're trying something, anything.

[PeterWithesShin]

I was talking to a bluenose last weekend. He told me Villa are the biggest club north of London, and south of Liverpool. He went on to tell me Villa fans' trouble is our expectations are too high. So what exactly should fans of the biggest club between London and Liverpool expect? At the very least, when you've been established in the top division for over 20 years, and had hundreds of millions to play with, you'd expect to stay in that division. Minimum requirement. That's why I don't buy this 'it happens to every team' line. If that's true, I really can't wait for Man United's day. That'll be soon, right? 

You don't have to as Amfy said "Teams get relegated. Sometimes it's you" she never said it happens to every team.