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Re: Eric Black
« Reply #330 on: April 24, 2016, 09:51:14 AM »
playing a few of the youngsters might do them a bit of good, harden them up a bit
I honestly don't think that any Villa fans would blame them for out predicament and would openly support them as opposed to the constant booing of the established lads

It's a no lose situation for me, they get experience playing in a difficult atmosphere and the fans get to support players they actually like,
throwing youngsters in the deep end doesn't seem to have done that Rashford fella much harm, and the pressure would be greater in an man city v man Utd derby game, even the pundits said he shouldnt play too young they said, he won the game for them

He who dares wins, and that other thing the General used to say

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Re: Eric Black
« Reply #331 on: April 24, 2016, 09:53:37 AM »
That was Derek Trotter not Charles Krulak.  Easily confused I agree.

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Re: Eric Black
« Reply #332 on: April 24, 2016, 09:59:07 AM »
As a club, we do seem to have been very cautious to trust in youth over recent years, whilst other clubs regularly field 17/18 year olds with success.

I absolutely understand the need to not put them into situations that might expose them to too much pressure, but surely these last few games are the perfect opportunity to give them some valuable premiership experience while we still can, rather than allow the same old bloated, journeyman players go through the motions and further alienate the club from the fans?

I know very little about Black, and I understand the diabolical team he is trying to nurse through to the end of the season, but he quickly lost any good faith I might have had for him with his condescending remarks and spineless team selections.
It pains me seeing Rashford and that lad at City who's scored about a million goals against us this season. Everton have always chucked their good youngsters in too.
We have one of the most productive academy's. I don't buy that we can't produce better than Westwood, Bacuna, Bowery, Lowton, Sylla, etc, etc. I think we've wasted good money on signing players (regardless of them being "cheap") when we probably had potentially better in our youth set up. Johnson, Bannan and Albrighton are thriving at other clubs now. Some we gave up on too soon. Some we let their places go to inferior players (Cahill for one).

Lyden has looked okay. Green looked lively when he appeared. There's a group of players who seem to stand out most weeks for the u-21's. We've spent good money on this academy. We have a group now we need to bring through, if anything to put them in the shop window because with relegation I'd imagine we'll cut costs on the academy and the standard of player will drop even further. But we must be, at the very least, bringing up players who could play in the championship.

PLAY THEM!!

It's a wholehearted agreement from me.

I'm baffled why Black won't play at least 1 younger player.

He is very successfully making sure that with his team selections he is and has sucked any hope of any positive energy being generated from the crowd.

He is responsible for putting out a bland, boring, negative and frankly embarrassing selection for yesterdays game (along with all of his other afforts at picking a side) which probably  resulted one of the worst Villa performances I've ever seen.

I would have left out at least 6 players that have been an absolute disgrace and played members of the U21 set up whick appear, judging by this seasons results have what is known as team spirit. This is something which bar one or two exceptions, the first team evidently lacks.

I and I'm sure most fans would have taken a defeat even a heavy one because we might have seen a few chinks of light, a flash of ability or perhaps some organisation defensively.

But instead we witness people who have given up. Who are not interested and who clearly don't realise that they are privelidged enough to be playing for the team that I love.

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Re: Eric Black
« Reply #333 on: April 24, 2016, 09:59:16 AM »
A  couple of months working with our first team squad (yes apparently we have one) is enough to "romantically malnourish" any poor sod who had to manage such a bunch of under achieving individuals. In the words of the great Saint Brian "You are all individuals" - there certainly is not any team work going on.

If more youngsters were pitched in then the supporters would need to make a wall of positive noise and really get behind them, even if they make mistakes. Certainly against Newcastle we owe it to other teams in the Division to make a proper match of it and so pitching in all the youngsters is not really on (nor pitching in most of the current first team for that matter).

The Mangager will have to be" nourished" with shit sandwiches I am afraid (which is the Villa Park diet that we have all had to put up with for the last five years.


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Re: Eric Black
« Reply #334 on: April 24, 2016, 11:50:34 AM »
what does he see in Bacuna - awful all year , mistake after mistake , cant tackle , cant control, cant pass , cant shoot , his positioning is terrible and then tells the media he wants to play in the chumps league as he thinks he is Johan Cruyff all of a sudden . This would make me want to never see his grinning face with his muppet haircut wearing an Villa shirt again but the ' BOSS' fooking joke , plays the clown .. and what a great back pass that was ...

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Re: Eric Black
« Reply #335 on: April 24, 2016, 03:29:29 PM »
Jack black could pick a better team than Eric black
Not one supporter in vp yesterday or anywhere in the world would of picked that Team

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Re: Eric Black
« Reply #336 on: April 24, 2016, 04:33:35 PM »
As much use as putting a potato in the dugout and calling it boss.

As long as it's a King Edwards. I rather have that than Stan Collymore. He's just a common 'tater.

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Re: Eric Black
« Reply #337 on: April 24, 2016, 05:23:06 PM »
“That would be unprofessional of me and there would be no point in me being here if we just had a lottery and picked the team.

Fcuk sake.  Unprofessional. 

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Re: Eric Black
« Reply #338 on: April 24, 2016, 06:02:38 PM »
I can understand Black's point about not letting the fans dictate who plays as you can see this from some of the line ups suggested on here.  However, this is a generalisation and does not reflect the reality of the situation at the Villa now.

Results between now and the end of the season are pointless (and probably will be!) to us and I do not care less about being seen to put what looks to be a weaker team on paper.  The reality is that whatever team we put out, the chances are we are going to lose.

Probably the most important thing for Villa, aside from a new owner, is rebuilding the bridge between supporters and the Club.  The teams that Black is picking are pulling down that bridge more each week.  The group of 5 or 6 players identified by most on here have to go for the sake of fan/club unity.  I would go as far to say that this group of players is also undermining other players in the Club, to the point of making comments that they shouldn't be but understandable if you consider their frustration.

There have been comments that we do not have players to come in,  So why doesn't Black change the formation from what looks on paper to be a basic 4-4-2 (apologies if this is not correct but I haven't watched the last few games) to make it easier to bring in the youngsters.  Providing the young players are talked to in the week leading up to the games about going out and playing their own game and not letting the atmosphere get to them because it is not against them but against the Club in general, I think they will be fine.  Even if we do not start all of them, the bench should be loaded and the kids brought on.  If the manager and coaches cannot prepare them mentally for the games, what hope is there. 

 

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Re: Eric Black
« Reply #339 on: April 24, 2016, 06:19:57 PM »
Certainly playing the same useless duffers until the end of the season is not going to increase their value when it comes time to sell over the Summer.

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Re: Eric Black
« Reply #340 on: April 24, 2016, 07:14:27 PM »
Well he can't be any worse.  Impossible to lose another 8 games in a row

Erm...

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Re: Eric Black
« Reply #341 on: April 24, 2016, 07:20:40 PM »
I can understand Black's point about not letting the fans dictate who plays as you can see this from some of the line ups suggested on here.  However, this is a generalisation and does not reflect the reality of the situation at the Villa now.

Results between now and the end of the season are pointless (and probably will be!) to us and I do not care less about being seen to put what looks to be a weaker team on paper.  The reality is that whatever team we put out, the chances are we are going to lose.

Probably the most important thing for Villa, aside from a new owner, is rebuilding the bridge between supporters and the Club.  The teams that Black is picking are pulling down that bridge more each week.  The group of 5 or 6 players identified by most on here have to go for the sake of fan/club unity.  I would go as far to say that this group of players is also undermining other players in the Club, to the point of making comments that they shouldn't be but understandable if you consider their frustration.

There have been comments that we do not have players to come in,  So why doesn't Black change the formation from what looks on paper to be a basic 4-4-2 (apologies if this is not correct but I haven't watched the last few games) to make it easier to bring in the youngsters.  Providing the young players are talked to in the week leading up to the games about going out and playing their own game and not letting the atmosphere get to them because it is not against them but against the Club in general, I think they will be fine.  Even if we do not start all of them, the bench should be loaded and the kids brought on.  If the manager and coaches cannot prepare them mentally for the games, what hope is there.

Filling the bench with talented youngsters is a very good idea. It also would be fantastic to see players such as Bacuna, Lescott and Richards replaced by young and enthusiastic 18/19 year olds midway through the second half against Newcastle.

I think that they would find it justifiably embarrassing.

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Re: Eric Black
« Reply #342 on: April 24, 2016, 07:32:07 PM »
I was pleased in a way that EB played the parasites yesterday and they got the abuse they royally deserved.

But for the Newcastle game, surely he could play the U21s? We would be fully behind them, and they would actually have a chance of competing in the game, which the current lot don't have.

Otherwise he plays the same side again, we lose, and Newcastle probably stay up and have a good laugh at us.

But then, EB knows best....

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Re: Eric Black
« Reply #343 on: April 24, 2016, 09:41:05 PM »
So Eric knows best and the supporters know jack shit.  Well how many points have you picked up so far this season Eric ? Nil...fuckin nil. So all I can think is that in your 35 years you have learnt bugger all. Cheers Eric you condescending twat.

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Re: Eric Black
« Reply #344 on: April 24, 2016, 09:51:21 PM »
And another thing Eric...if ever you pick that bloody idiot Baccuna again you should receive a banning order from Villa park. That is the worst back pass I have seen at villa park since Brendon  batson  gifted Peter white a goal the year we won the league. Yes Eric we did win the league cause in those days we had proper managers and proper players. RANT OVER..I'm off to bed now and bollocks to all the idiots at villa park apart from the fans and some hard working staff who are going to join the dole queue because of the twat that have infested our once great club..ps Eric. ..you ain't on my Xmas card list.

 


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