The Players

[AV89]

Lot of issues would come as a result of sacking players like legal fees and the like.

However, it would at least make a statement to the fans and other players that the club are no longer prepared to tolerate the likes of Gabby who repeatedly bring the club into disrepute and don't take playing here seriously enough.

[oswald funkletrumpet]

What SVC doesn't know about underperforming for the club you profess to love and creating divisions in the dressing room probably isn't worth knowing.

seconded

[gpbarr]

Lot of issues would come as a result of sacking players like legal fees and the like.

However, it would at least make a statement to the fans and other players that the club are no longer prepared to tolerate the likes of Gabby who repeatedly bring the club into disrepute and don't take playing here seriously enough.

You don't sack them, You pay them off, just like we did Lambert, Sherwood, and Garde. No difference. Thats a statement that would make for a very big difference in our fortunes because right now, be under no illusion, the players have been emboldened by the sacking of Garde. 

[Dave]

Because they're currently meeting all the requirements of the contracts that they were offered by the club.

As was Garde, technically. The difference is its seen as acceptable to pay off a manager who is failing, not players who are failing.

How nice would it be, for once, for a club to stand up and buck the trend. 

If we want to change the original question from "why can't the players be sacked for being bad at their job just like I could be for being bad at mine" to "why can't the players be sacked for being bad at their job like Garde was for being bad at his" the answer is that they can. Remi (and all the others before him) had their contracts paid because we wanted to employ somebody else in the job that we thought could do it better.

If Gabby and Richards (to pick a couple of names at random) were told that their contracts were being paid up and that they were free to find employment elsewhere, I imagine they'd jump at the chance.

"We're going to take a stand by paying you all your money, expecting nothing in return and leaving you free to earn more money elsewhere".

It's not exactly Howard Beale.

[Holtemeister]

And that is why the whole of football is screwed ...

And how even convicted rapists and killers are even offered contracts by clubs

Sack a player and theres a queue of clubs prepared and only too happy to pick up a player on the cheap

[gpbarr]

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If Gabby and Richards (to pick a couple of names at random) were told that their contracts were being paid up and that they were free to find employment elsewhere, I imagine they'd jump at the chance.

"We're going to take a stand by paying you all your money, expecting nothing in return and leaving you free to earn more money elsewhere".

It's not exactly Howard Beale.

The same could be said of managers. Your point is, as the next posters said, a perfect illustration of why football is so screwed.

[Steve67]

An example being made of just a single player, either Agbonlahor or Richards, I suspect would quieten down the pack. We may not have to fork out several millions on getting shut of several players, but perhaps just a couple. Especially as I reckon not too many clubs would be queuing for their services when it's let slip that their attitude is less than helpful in a dressing room.  Maybe football no longer works that way but if they want to play for this football club, make it clear that we stand no nonsense.

[andyh]

I watched the Andy Gray item last night and then, as is normal, I was mulling over all things Villa as I tried to drop off to sleep, and started thinking about the wastrels at the club.
It struck me that try as I might, I could not remember the first name of the player called Sinclair.
The names Frank and Trevor kept coming but this blokes name just wouldn't come.
It took about 10 mins before it dawned on me his name is Scott.

I have been a supporter for over 45 years and a season ticket holder for over 30 years.
Yet, I could not think of the name of the CURRENT Aston Villa number 9!

I'll give Scott Sinclair the benefit of the doubt and conclude that maybe it was an age thing creeping up on me and nothing to do with the complete and utter lack of impact the guy has had since arriving.

[dutchvilla]

It may have been said on other threads, but if the UK leaves the EU, the choice of which players leave will be made for us.

[croatian]

It may have been said on other threads, but if the UK leaves the EU, the choice of which players leave will be made for us

Don't pay any attention to that nonsense. It's just Cameron trying to frighten you. His contempt for you is matched only by the squad.
Total arse-bollocks.

[dutchvilla]

I agree it may be scaremongering but the BBC have us down as having a lot of players at risk

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35919247

[croatian]

I agree it may be scaremongering but the BBC have us down as having a lot of players at risk

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35919247

Yep,  the BBC are just an arm of gubbermint propaganda. Just another scare tactic to get you to vote to stay in.
Pay no heed, move along, nothing to see here.

[Tayls_7]

I watched the Andy Gray item last night and then, as is normal, I was mulling over all things Villa as I tried to drop off to sleep, and started thinking about the wastrels at the club.
It struck me that try as I might, I could not remember the first name of the player called Sinclair.
The names Frank and Trevor kept coming but this blokes name just wouldn't come.
It took about 10 mins before it dawned on me his name is Scott.

I have been a supporter for over 45 years and a season ticket holder for over 30 years.
Yet, I could not think of the name of the CURRENT Aston Villa number 9!

I'll give Scott Sinclair the benefit of the doubt and conclude that maybe it was an age thing creeping up on me and nothing to do with the complete and utter lack of impact the guy has had since arriving.

I have similar problems in that regard so I use a lot of catchy memorable psuedonyms for our lads such as Numbnuts, Powderpuff and Arsewipe. It helps.

[RichardBatchelor]

Heskey was poor but seemed a decent enough humble bloke with an ok attitud, cannot be compared to this shower.

I fucking hate them all. They're either shit, unprofessional, big headed, thick, ignorant, feckless, out of shape, lacking in talent, lacking in application or a combination of the above.

I've never felt like this about our players before.

I felt like this about Collins, Heskey & a couple of others under McLeish, but I'm with you on this. I hate every single one of them.

Heskey was mostly rubbish for us and very frustrating to watch, save a six odd match spell under Houllier, but I would never have questioned his attitude and he always seems a decent, humble lad. So of the above I think only 'lacking in talent' applies to him.

[ronshirt]

During the break for Internationals I think the club should've taken the opportunity to dig up the pitch and install a system whereby the players could've been controlled by huge levers installed in the Holte End. Pressing down on the lever would've sent the player racing blindly up towards the opposition's penalty area. Upwards pressure would've reversed the effect. Players would've also have been able to rotate on their bases and alternately extend and retract their legs either entirely randomly or according to the proximity of the ball.

There would've been no sense in allowing the goalkeeper to disregard his duties by flying up and down the pitch with his colleagues; so he would've  remained on his line until a jet-pack attached to his back was ignited.

The winner of an exciting pre-match raffle would've be entitled to sit on the bench looking glum. Several second prizes woud've allowed people to sit at the back looking disinterested and/or spitting chewing gum towards the pitch and/or looking at their iphones.

I think Our Randy's missed a trick and all it would've taken was a phone call.