New manager- when will it happen?

[chrisw1]

I'll say one thing, if Moyes wants a decent way to rebuild his reputation, then getting us promoted quickly and even mid tablish would be an obvious way of doing it.

Agreed. Allardyce took the same risk when taking the West Ham job in the Championship and it worked well for both parties.

I'd hope we'd have the ambition to get rid of Moyes once we're up and safe. He may be the right man for a quick fix but he's got his limitations. Allardyce got them up to 12th but West Ham had the ambition to know with the right man they could push on.

Are you really sacking him before he's joined?

Yup. Why, am I not allowed to?

I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt as after last years promotion he's got us in the top 10 on a shoestring and we've dot a decent chance of a UEFA place next year.

That all sounds very MON. Now there was a manager with serious limitations that we should have thanked and replaced a couple of years before he ran away.

Right now a top 6 spot sounds like dreamland to me and I'll take it.

[Clampy]

I'll say one thing, if Moyes wants a decent way to rebuild his reputation, then getting us promoted quickly and even mid tablish would be an obvious way of doing it.

Agreed. Allardyce took the same risk when taking the West Ham job in the Championship and it worked well for both parties.

I'd hope we'd have the ambition to get rid of Moyes once we're up and safe. He may be the right man for a quick fix but he's got his limitations. Allardyce got them up to 12th but West Ham had the ambition to know with the right man they could push on.

I agree. Sacking him after a mid table finish in our first season back in the top flight is just what he deserves.

[Toronto Villa]

It would be utterly mental to do that, and the fact that so far it has worked out for West Ham doesn't at guarantee it would work again.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I'll say one thing, if Moyes wants a decent way to rebuild his reputation, then getting us promoted quickly and even mid tablish would be an obvious way of doing it.

Agreed. Allardyce took the same risk when taking the West Ham job in the Championship and it worked well for both parties.

I'd hope we'd have the ambition to get rid of Moyes once we're up and safe. He may be the right man for a quick fix but he's got his limitations. Allardyce got them up to 12th but West Ham had the ambition to know with the right man they could push on.

I agree. Sacking him after a mid table finish in our first season back in the top flight is just what he deserves.

It not what he deserves, it what we deserve. If our ambition is to be a midtable team forever Moyes is the man. We've been far too loyal to managers that only delivered the minimum of what we could expect.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I'll say one thing, if Moyes wants a decent way to rebuild his reputation, then getting us promoted quickly and even mid tablish would be an obvious way of doing it.

Agreed. Allardyce took the same risk when taking the West Ham job in the Championship and it worked well for both parties.

I'd hope we'd have the ambition to get rid of Moyes once we're up and safe. He may be the right man for a quick fix but he's got his limitations. Allardyce got them up to 12th but West Ham had the ambition to know with the right man they could push on.

Are you really sacking him before he's joined?

Yup. Why, am I not allowed to?

I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt as after last years promotion he's got us in the top 10 on a shoestring and we've dot a decent chance of a UEFA place next year.

That all sounds very MON. Now there was a manager with serious limitations that we should have thanked and replaced a couple of years before he ran away.

Right now a top 6 spot sounds like dreamland to me and I'll take it.

You missed out your two trips to Wembley.

[chrisw1]

I'll say one thing, if Moyes wants a decent way to rebuild his reputation, then getting us promoted quickly and even mid tablish would be an obvious way of doing it.

Agreed. Allardyce took the same risk when taking the West Ham job in the Championship and it worked well for both parties.

I'd hope we'd have the ambition to get rid of Moyes once we're up and safe. He may be the right man for a quick fix but he's got his limitations. Allardyce got them up to 12th but West Ham had the ambition to know with the right man they could push on.

I agree. Sacking him after a mid table finish in our first season back in the top flight is just what he deserves.

It not what he deserves, it what we deserve. If our ambition is to be a midtable team forever Moyes is the man. We've been far too loyal to managers that only delivered the minimum of what we could expect.

When we are floundering at the bottom of the league probably heading for the worst points total since the PL began with a shambolic squad of misfiring players, you think turning that round instant promotion and mid table safety is the least we can expect?  I would say it is the most we could possibly hope for.  Honestly, you are coming across as absolutely nuts.

[Chris Jameson]

Hang on this has moved on a bit. Are you really suggesting that in the unlikely event of Villa getting promoted at the first attempt and then even more unlikely event of us securing a mid table finish the following season we should then sack the manager responsible?

[PaulWinch again]

I'll say one thing, if Moyes wants a decent way to rebuild his reputation, then getting us promoted quickly and even mid tablish would be an obvious way of doing it.

Agreed. Allardyce took the same risk when taking the West Ham job in the Championship and it worked well for both parties.

I'd hope we'd have the ambition to get rid of Moyes once we're up and safe. He may be the right man for a quick fix but he's got his limitations. Allardyce got them up to 12th but West Ham had the ambition to know with the right man they could push on.

I agree. Sacking him after a mid table finish in our first season back in the top flight is just what he deserves.

It not what he deserves, it what we deserve. If our ambition is to be a midtable team forever Moyes is the man. We've been far too loyal to managers that only delivered the minimum of what we could expect.

In fairness Moyes had Everton above mid-table on a regular basis and in any case given where we are at the moment I'd say regular mid-table finishes would be pretty ambitious.

[DaveD]

I'm going to write an open letter to the board deploring their lack of ambition at a mid-table PL finish in 2018. Little out !

[not3bad]

With Moyes Everton were regularly challenging for the European positions. That looks a million miles away from where we are now so he'll do for me. As has been suggested this would be a good way to recover the pedigree of both the club and the manager.

[dave.woodhall]

First unconfirmed reports are indicating a shortlist of two, which is at least a 100% improvement over the last one. You can guess the two.

[DaveD]

Trevor Francis and Robbie Savage ?

[Pat McMahon]

First unconfirmed reports are indicating a shortlist of two, which is at least a 100% improvement over the last one. You can guess the two.

Laurel and Hardy?

[Des Little]

Cheech and Chong

[Rudy Can't Fail]

When we are floundering at the bottom of the league probably heading for the worst points total since the PL began with a shambolic squad of misfiring players, you think turning that round instant promotion and mid table safety is the least we can expect?  I would say it is the most we could possibly hope for.  Honestly, you are coming across as absolutely nuts.

Maybe I've a little more confidence in the club than some, not to mention ambition.

CJ, first, I don't see the "unlikely event of Villa getting promoted at the first attempt", I expect it. If we get our house in order and it certainly looks like we are, I see no reason not to expect it. Right now we need a manager to do a specific job, once that job is complete we move onto the next project, a more ambitious job. Horses for courses.

TV, Watford don't seem to have suffered too much either. "Utterly mental" is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.