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Author Topic: David Bernstein Speaks.  (Read 17780 times)

Offline Tony Erdington

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Re: David Bernstein Speaks.
« Reply #75 on: March 22, 2016, 01:57:16 PM »
Some positivity there.

The bottom line , is show the manager the money, and let him spend it.

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Re: David Bernstein Speaks.
« Reply #76 on: March 22, 2016, 02:03:55 PM »
Some positivity there.

The bottom line , is show the manager the money, and let him spend it.

Just like Martin O...

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Re: David Bernstein Speaks.
« Reply #77 on: March 22, 2016, 02:33:25 PM »
Some positivity there.

The bottom line , is show the manager the money, and let him spend it.

Just like Martin O...

You have to give him an adequate budget and make it very clear that that is all there is.

MON was treated like a 3 year old in a toy shop, with no concept of money. That. And that. And that. Followed by the inevitable tantrum the first time he heard the word NO.

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Re: David Bernstein Speaks.
« Reply #78 on: March 22, 2016, 03:12:25 PM »
I like what he has said so far, but the harder battles are yet to come. I'm intrigued to see what happens with rooting out the cancer that has infected the place for years now. As others have said, jettisoning players on lucrative fixed term deals is hard when they are poor - but its a problem the board are going to have to deal with if they really want a new start, 

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Re: David Bernstein Speaks.
« Reply #79 on: March 22, 2016, 06:52:23 PM »
I like the cut of his gib but it's hard to be optimistic. We are haemorrhaging money and our revenue is about to be reduced. I estimate the value of our squad at around 50 pence and our worst performers are on rock star wages guaranteed for several years. The playing standard of the Championship needs to be uber shite for us to stand a chance. That's if we can recruit a manager capable of assembling personnel who can even be arsed to put in any kind of show for the cause. Depressing and worrying stuff.

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Re: David Bernstein Speaks.
« Reply #80 on: March 22, 2016, 07:19:56 PM »
The thing about appointing a manager is that none of us really know how it is going to turn out. And there are so many other factors that can help or hinder the manager being successful. We have to trust that the  board will think the entire process through. At the end of the day we won't have a choice as to who that person is and it could very well be someone who not all of us agree with. We have to have faith though even if that is the case that they have made the best possible decision, without emotion, with their collective knowledge and experience, and based on a lot more information than we have.

Along these lines, for me, is justification for Garde starting next season with us. 

There are loads of other variables which need to be observed, measured and understood before we change the key variable: the manager.   Having Garde stay in place will allow them the time to change the others variables and then appoint a manager that better suits the new system.  The simplest example being a manager that is aligned with the philosophy of Head of Football Development (or whatever the title was).

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Re: David Bernstein Speaks.
« Reply #81 on: March 22, 2016, 07:34:53 PM »
Well we have the new board and it's advisers, most on here seem to be happy with the make  of it including me
So the football bods ie Bernstien and Little will have to take stock of a Garde listen to what he had to say see what he is doing and make a judgement,
if as we think they will know a bit more about what they are doing than those who have gone before then we have to trust whatever decision they make

The difficult bit comes if they do give Garde the chop and appoint another manager who doesn't get our majority approval, ie Pearson, Bruce, Pulis, Coleman etc


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Re: David Bernstein Speaks.
« Reply #82 on: March 22, 2016, 07:56:19 PM »
Well we have the new board and it's advisers, most on here seem to be happy with the make  of it including me
So the football bods ie Bernstien and Little will have to take stock of a Garde listen to what he had to say see what he is doing and make a judgement,
if as we think they will know a bit more about what they are doing than those who have gone before then we have to trust whatever decision they make

The difficult bit comes if they do give Garde the chop and appoint another manager who doesn't get our majority approval, ie Pearson, Bruce, Pulis, Coleman etc



For the first time in ages I'm confident that the feelings of the supporters regarding appointments will be genuinely considered.

And given the circumstances we're in it's a more significant factor than usual, we need to be lifted for the team to stand a chance.

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Re: David Bernstein Speaks.
« Reply #83 on: March 22, 2016, 08:20:06 PM »
Well we have the new board and it's advisers, most on here seem to be happy with the make  of it including me
So the football bods ie Bernstien and Little will have to take stock of a Garde listen to what he had to say see what he is doing and make a judgement,
if as we think they will know a bit more about what they are doing than those who have gone before then we have to trust whatever decision they make

The difficult bit comes if they do give Garde the chop and appoint another manager who doesn't get our majority approval, ie Pearson, Bruce, Pulis, Coleman etc



For the first time in ages I'm confident that the feelings of the supporters regarding appointments will be genuinely considered.

And given the circumstances we're in it's a more significant factor than usual, we need to be lifted for the team to stand a chance.

To be honest I don't necessarily want the views of supporters to be taken into account.  With the best will in the world the majority of supporters have very little real world football experience or knowledge.  Lambert was popular choice, as was MON & Garde.  The was a huge wave of support for Solskear and numerous others who probably wouldn't have been appropriate.  I want the best man for the job, picked by an experienced forward thinking Board with real life football knowledge.  I desperately hope that is what we now have.

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Re: David Bernstein Speaks.
« Reply #84 on: March 22, 2016, 09:56:14 PM »
Anyone thinking our new board will lead us to nirvana would do well to read the interview in todays Times with Mike Ashley.

He's had a board operating at arms length with a self funding remit for a while now. It's hardly been a resounding success so far .

The thought that our reorganisation is based on the Newcastle model certainly gives me grounds for concern.

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Re: David Bernstein Speaks.
« Reply #85 on: March 22, 2016, 10:02:17 PM »
Anyone thinking our new board will lead us to nirvana would do well to read the interview in todays Times with Mike Ashley.

He's had a board operating at arms length with a self funding remit for a while now. It's hardly been a resounding success so far .

The thought that our reorganisation is based on the Newcastle model certainly gives me grounds for concern.

It's also the model that tottenham follow so, like with everything, it works if you have the right people in place.

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Re: David Bernstein Speaks.
« Reply #86 on: March 22, 2016, 10:12:06 PM »
As I said read the interview the parallels are uncanny.

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Re: David Bernstein Speaks.
« Reply #87 on: March 22, 2016, 10:20:57 PM »
Well we have the new board and it's advisers, most on here seem to be happy with the make  of it including me
So the football bods ie Bernstien and Little will have to take stock of a Garde listen to what he had to say see what he is doing and make a judgement,
if as we think they will know a bit more about what they are doing than those who have gone before then we have to trust whatever decision they make

The difficult bit comes if they do give Garde the chop and appoint another manager who doesn't get our majority approval, ie Pearson, Bruce, Pulis, Coleman etc



For the first time in ages I'm confident that the feelings of the supporters regarding appointments will be genuinely considered.

And given the circumstances we're in it's a more significant factor than usual, we need to be lifted for the team to stand a chance.

To be honest I don't necessarily want the views of supporters to be taken into account.  With the best will in the world the majority of supporters have very little real world football experience or knowledge.  Lambert was popular choice, as was MON & Garde.  The was a huge wave of support for Solskear and numerous others who probably wouldn't have been appropriate.  I want the best man for the job, picked by an experienced forward thinking Board with real life football knowledge.  I desperately hope that is what we now have.

It's pot luck with a bit of knowledge and thought thrown in on the side
it's all right saying ' I just want the best man for the job' we all do for fucks sake

every board makes good and bad appointments no matter how much experience they have,
Let's just hope the bad luck has run out for us and we call and get heads next time

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Re: David Bernstein Speaks.
« Reply #88 on: March 23, 2016, 12:43:34 AM »
The thing about appointing a manager is that none of us really know how it is going to turn out. And there are so many other factors that can help or hinder the manager being successful. We have to trust that the  board will think the entire process through. At the end of the day we won't have a choice as to who that person is and it could very well be someone who not all of us agree with. We have to have faith though even if that is the case that they have made the best possible decision, without emotion, with their collective knowledge and experience, and based on a lot more information than we have.

After the last few years you'll forgive me for not trusting the club to get anything right. I hope that things will get better, but its going to take a lot more than appointing an ex-Man City director and Brian Little onto a 'football board' to alter my default scepticism.

I agree. Whilst Bernstein admittedly says some good things, without the usual cliches, my initial impression is I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.

Delighted with the appointment of Brian Little I'm just extremely concerned that he's a token gesture with little or no actual power. Fingers crossed I'm wrong.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2016, 12:45:45 AM by Diablo »

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Re: David Bernstein Speaks.
« Reply #89 on: March 23, 2016, 07:21:45 AM »
What did he say to make you not want to trust him?

His track record is very good and I didn't see anything untoward in that interview. If we are after a new manager hopefully it will be a desicion from Hollis after discussions with the rest of the board and not just one man making up his mind after one interview.

 


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