I don't understand how the tangible assets are now worth c.£40m less than before. Assuming these include VP and BMH, what has changed? I'm guessing there must be some clever accounting reason why you would say these are worth less than previously estimated. Unless that shop in New Street was more valuable than we thought.
Quote from: cdward on February 28, 2017, 10:35:54 AMI don't understand how the tangible assets are now worth c.£40m less than before. Assuming these include VP and BMH, what has changed? I'm guessing there must be some clever accounting reason why you would say these are worth less than previously estimated. Unless that shop in New Street was more valuable than we thought.It is a bit odd, to say the least. Land and buildings were in the accounts at £88m, so it's nearly half the value they've written off. Guessing slightly here, but it may have something to do with the fact that as we're now in a division lower, the stadium is generating less income. Generally commercial property is valued based on the income it generates, so if you have an office block with a blue chip tenant on a ten year lease, it'll be worth more than the same building with a BHS in it.
Quote from: Risso on February 28, 2017, 10:56:24 AMQuote from: cdward on February 28, 2017, 10:35:54 AMI don't understand how the tangible assets are now worth c.£40m less than before. Assuming these include VP and BMH, what has changed? I'm guessing there must be some clever accounting reason why you would say these are worth less than previously estimated. Unless that shop in New Street was more valuable than we thought.It is a bit odd, to say the least. Land and buildings were in the accounts at £88m, so it's nearly half the value they've written off. Guessing slightly here, but it may have something to do with the fact that as we're now in a division lower, the stadium is generating less income. Generally commercial property is valued based on the income it generates, so if you have an office block with a blue chip tenant on a ten year lease, it'll be worth more than the same building with a BHS in it.Would it be right to assume there'd be scope for the value of those assets to double or at least increase substantially again if we were promoted at the end of next season?
Quote from: Ads on February 28, 2017, 11:47:27 AMQuote from: Risso on February 28, 2017, 10:56:24 AMQuote from: cdward on February 28, 2017, 10:35:54 AMI don't understand how the tangible assets are now worth c.£40m less than before. Assuming these include VP and BMH, what has changed? I'm guessing there must be some clever accounting reason why you would say these are worth less than previously estimated. Unless that shop in New Street was more valuable than we thought.It is a bit odd, to say the least. Land and buildings were in the accounts at £88m, so it's nearly half the value they've written off. Guessing slightly here, but it may have something to do with the fact that as we're now in a division lower, the stadium is generating less income. Generally commercial property is valued based on the income it generates, so if you have an office block with a blue chip tenant on a ten year lease, it'll be worth more than the same building with a BHS in it.Would it be right to assume there'd be scope for the value of those assets to double or at least increase substantially again if we were promoted at the end of next season? Assuming that is part of the reason, then yes. Or it could just be that the sales price has been apportioned over the cost of assets, and so they all had to be written down accordingly.
1 The adjustment is based on a new and accurate valuation of the asset.2. It represents some potential future tax planning.3 it sets up a sweetheart deal.Take your pick.
Quote from: Percy McCarthy on February 28, 2017, 07:48:30 AMQuote from: PeterWithe on February 27, 2017, 09:51:43 PMAn old boss of mine used to tell a story about selling vacuum cleaners door to door, one of the demonstrations was to edge past the lady of the house on the doorstep and throw soot on the floor, then use the new fangled vacuum cleaner to get it all up.Reckons he did it once to a battle axe in Aston only to find out she didn't have any electricity. I never did believe him. He told a more convincing one about getting dog shit on the sleeve of his new suit from the arm of a chair in a Chelmsley flat. Anyroad, we digress.Playing up to your rampant prejudice no doubt.I'm not sure that 'rampant prejudice' against the general population of Chemsley would have been good for either my family relations or my wallet, more that the family the story was about were well know in the office as being utter tramps.
Quote from: PeterWithe on February 27, 2017, 09:51:43 PMAn old boss of mine used to tell a story about selling vacuum cleaners door to door, one of the demonstrations was to edge past the lady of the house on the doorstep and throw soot on the floor, then use the new fangled vacuum cleaner to get it all up.Reckons he did it once to a battle axe in Aston only to find out she didn't have any electricity. I never did believe him. He told a more convincing one about getting dog shit on the sleeve of his new suit from the arm of a chair in a Chelmsley flat. Anyroad, we digress.Playing up to your rampant prejudice no doubt.
An old boss of mine used to tell a story about selling vacuum cleaners door to door, one of the demonstrations was to edge past the lady of the house on the doorstep and throw soot on the floor, then use the new fangled vacuum cleaner to get it all up.Reckons he did it once to a battle axe in Aston only to find out she didn't have any electricity. I never did believe him. He told a more convincing one about getting dog shit on the sleeve of his new suit from the arm of a chair in a Chelmsley flat. Anyroad, we digress.
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