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Offline LeeS

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5355 on: May 23, 2016, 03:18:41 PM »
Question for anyone with an inside knowledge of how bookies work. I suppose its immoral but...on the basis of what Dr X said about it being a done deal, if the bookies were sure it was Di Matteo for instance, could they begin to drastically shorten the odds on Moyes to coax others into betting?

If one bookmaker dropped the odds but the others didn't, nobody would bet with them as they'd get better odds elsewhere.

If all the bookies colluded to reduce the price that would be illegal price fixing.


Unless there are clever algorithms that detect when a rival slashes the odds on something. Then the computers of the other bookies would all decide there was something up and shorten their odds too, leading to further cuts and so on.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5356 on: May 23, 2016, 03:39:54 PM »
Maybe. I suspect that even that might be bordering on illegality.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5357 on: May 23, 2016, 03:49:27 PM »
This has probably already been posted but this Liverpool Echo article about Moyes today meant I wasn't that disappointed it won't be him.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-bring-back-david-moyes-11369111


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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5358 on: May 23, 2016, 03:56:45 PM »

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5359 on: May 23, 2016, 04:04:17 PM »
This has probably already been posted but this Liverpool Echo article about Moyes today meant I wasn't that disappointed it won't be him.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-bring-back-david-moyes-11369111

The Echo echoes those of us on here who would doubt his ability to take us on in the Premier League and make us interesting, but I'm not sure it says anything against his ability to get us promoted.

Offline paul_e

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5360 on: May 23, 2016, 04:10:32 PM »
This has probably already been posted but this Liverpool Echo article about Moyes today meant I wasn't that disappointed it won't be him.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-bring-back-david-moyes-11369111

The Echo echoes those of us on here who would doubt his ability to take us on in the Premier League and make us interesting, but I'm not sure it says anything against his ability to get us promoted.

As I said I didn't doubt that he'd be able to get us promoted (although I did think his desire for the job might not be there because he's in a bit of a 'last chance saloon') but it's good to see people from Everton backing up my thinking so clearly.  Di Matteo is and was a better option for me.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5361 on: May 23, 2016, 04:13:08 PM »
 :D
I've heard it's Gary Neville.

No, I've just made that up.

Any more of that and you'll be needing that website sooner than you anticipated!   :D

Offline Boz

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5362 on: May 23, 2016, 04:41:47 PM »
This has probably already been posted but this Liverpool Echo article about Moyes today meant I wasn't that disappointed it won't be him.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-bring-back-david-moyes-11369111

The Echo echoes those of us on here who would doubt his ability to take us on in the Premier League and make us interesting, but I'm not sure it says anything against his ability to get us promoted.

As I said I didn't doubt that he'd be able to get us promoted (although I did think his desire for the job might not be there because he's in a bit of a 'last chance saloon') but it's good to see people from Everton backing up my thinking so clearly.  Di Matteo is and was a better option for me.

Agreed. Moyes is too much a dour unimaginative Scot whose best managerial years are behind him IMO.

If he didn't want to manage in the Championship, why waste everyone's time even meeting the Villa people? I know he was a fans hot favourite, but I'd prefer someone with more charisma together with a reasonable level of experience and from the choices that seem to be available, Di Matteo looks a better option.

Was Moyes main reason for declining Villa more about the transfer pot he'd have and it wasn't as much as he wanted? A season in the Championship and not being promoted was perhaps a risk he wouldn't take without mega bucks being made available.

He seems to me that since taking the Manure job and tarting himself up with his new hair do and flashier suits, he's ended up as just another ordinary manager with ideas above his capabilities.


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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5363 on: May 23, 2016, 04:47:28 PM »
A shame it wasn't Moyes.

He would've been a real coup and one of those above our pay grade type Managers.

Bit like when we got MON when we'd finished 16th.

Still RDM and Pearson are more realistic candidates for our situation and I wouldn't have a problem with either, both are very capable of getting us back first time imo.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5364 on: May 23, 2016, 04:48:58 PM »
This has probably already been posted but this Liverpool Echo article about Moyes today meant I wasn't that disappointed it won't be him.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-bring-back-david-moyes-11369111

The Echo echoes those of us on here who would doubt his ability to take us on in the Premier League and make us interesting, but I'm not sure it says anything against his ability to get us promoted.

As I said I didn't doubt that he'd be able to get us promoted (although I did think his desire for the job might not be there because he's in a bit of a 'last chance saloon') but it's good to see people from Everton backing up my thinking so clearly.  Di Matteo is and was a better option for me.

I even think him getting us promoted is questionable. As I mentioned previously, it would have taken a whole philosophical shift on his part to go out there and try and win games. The comment about him not having confidence in his own players makes be believe we've dodged a bullet with his lack of interest in the job.

Offline CT Villan

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5365 on: May 23, 2016, 04:53:46 PM »
My suspicion is that Moyes was not first choice and got in first before he looks bad for not getting the Villa job. The last thing he needs after Man U and Sociedad is rejection from a Championship club.

Offline Stirchley Villain

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5366 on: May 23, 2016, 04:56:14 PM »
My suspicion is that Moyes was not first choice and got in first before he looks bad for not getting the Villa job. The last thing he needs after Man U and Sociedad is rejection from a Championship club.

If we keep telling ourselves that it won't hurt so much...

Offline MoetVillan

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5367 on: May 23, 2016, 04:57:04 PM »
LVG is available?!  About the only guy that hasn't been mentioned

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5368 on: May 23, 2016, 04:59:41 PM »
LVG is available?!  About the only guy that hasn't been mentioned

I'd like to see a heated argument between those two

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5369 on: May 23, 2016, 05:00:11 PM »
This has probably already been posted but this Liverpool Echo article about Moyes today meant I wasn't that disappointed it won't be him.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-bring-back-david-moyes-11369111

The Echo echoes those of us on here who would doubt his ability to take us on in the Premier League and make us interesting, but I'm not sure it says anything against his ability to get us promoted.

As I said I didn't doubt that he'd be able to get us promoted (although I did think his desire for the job might not be there because he's in a bit of a 'last chance saloon') but it's good to see people from Everton backing up my thinking so clearly.  Di Matteo is and was a better option for me.

I even think him getting us promoted is questionable. As I mentioned previously, it would have taken a whole philosophical shift on his part to go out there and try and win games. The comment about him not having confidence in his own players makes be believe we've dodged a bullet with his lack of interest in the job.

He's won plenty of games at premier league level. Think his average is between 55-60 points at premier league level so not too far off 50% premier league win ratio.

 


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