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Offline Billy Walker

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5340 on: May 23, 2016, 02:34:58 PM »
Moyes obviously knew full well when interviewed that the club was in the Championship, so uncertainty over future ownership might answer to why he turned it down? I guess the last thing he wanted was to have ended up working for Randy with no budget - that would have been a challenge too far.

The other angle could be the demands placed upon him should Xia become Chairman.  Back up in one season and challenging for Europe asap?  It would be a tough gig for someone as naturally cautious and pragmatic as Moyes.

Offline tomd2103

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5341 on: May 23, 2016, 02:37:58 PM »
It makes you wonder what caused David Moyes to lose interest so dramatically. After all he does know Wyness well. Perhaps he is privy to inside information that we are not.

He's at a precarious point in his career where another failure would seriously impact on his reputation.  Maybe he thought it was just too much of a risk and will wait for other options. 

Offline Musicmaan

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5342 on: May 23, 2016, 02:38:24 PM »
Sky haven't touched the Moyes story...

Offline conman

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5343 on: May 23, 2016, 02:41:02 PM »
Sky haven't touched the Moyes story...
sulking cos bbc got it first

Offline Musicmaan

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5344 on: May 23, 2016, 02:43:14 PM »
Sky haven't touched the Moyes story...
sulking cos bbc got it first

Hah, yeah probably.

Offline peter w

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5345 on: May 23, 2016, 02:43:27 PM »
Just a thought. I wonder if he's ruled himself out to save face knowing that we've appointed someone else instead? Dr Tony did hint that it was more or less done. Being overlooked by a relegated club wouldn't look too good for him. I may be wrong though.

Well seeing that Our Tone already said that the manager has been appointed and that it'd be announced this week, I don't think you're that wide of the mark.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5346 on: May 23, 2016, 02:46:17 PM »
On his first day Nige will gather everybody round and announce we are going to watch a film. A film starring Sean Connery. Great, say the lads we like James Bond films Then they find out its.... "The Hill!"
Gabby as Roy Kinnaer.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5347 on: May 23, 2016, 02:47:00 PM »
On his first day Nige will gather everybody round and announce we are going to watch a film. A film starring Sean Connery. Great, say the lads we like James Bond films Then they find out its.... "The Hill!"
Gabby as Roy Kinnaer.

Gabby as the hill.

Offline TonyD

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5348 on: May 23, 2016, 02:47:28 PM »
What a relief.

Offline rob_bridge

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5349 on: May 23, 2016, 02:49:56 PM »
Seems like we are down to two. I've already listed Di Matteo's CV, I'll list Pearson's too, for comparison.

DI MATTEO

MK Dons: only had one season there. Lost on penalties in the playoff semi-finals. Considering they'd only been promoted the previous season that's not a bad return. Verdict: SUCCESS.

West Brom: got them promoted at the first attempt. They were above the relegation zone the following season when he was, rather harshly, sacked. Verdict: SUCCESS

Chelsea: of course any achievement at that club has to be viewed while considering that just about anyone could do well there with their resources and squad. Nevertheless, he won the trophy that eluded Mourinho, Ranieri, Hiddink, Ancelotti and others, and added another trophy. He didn't do well in the league by their standards in his first season, but he had improved in the second season when he was dismissed. Verdict: SUCCESS.

Schalke: took over with them in eleventh, finished sixth. Did have a poor end to the season so I won't call it an outright success. Verdict: OKAY.

PEARSON

Carlisle: took over with them having just been relegated to the bottom tier and only avoided relegation to the Conference via an injury time goalkeeper goal. I'm not sure what the financial situation was like there though so I won't judge him too harshly. Verdict: OKAY.

Southampton: punted after just three months in charge. Verdict: FAILURE.

Leicester (first spell): promoted as Champions of League One and got them to the Championship playoffs. Verdict: SUCCESS.

Hull: took over with them just relegated to the Championship and led them to an unimpressive 11th. They were in playoffs the season after when he left so I'll be generous and say, Verdict: OKAY.

Leicester (second spell): two mid-table finishes then a playoff semi-finals defeat in his first three years. Promoted as Champions the year after. Sacked after finishing fourteenth the year after. I'll ignore what Leicester have achieved in his absence and be generous again. Verdict: SUCCESS.




So, Di Matteo has been successful just about everywhere. Pearson has only had any success at one club. Di Matteo took one year to escape the Championship, Pearson took four. Di Matteo doesn't seem be a raging psychopathic bullying wanker, Pearson does.

No comparison for me.


I must admit, that in the absence of MOyes, I was leaning toward Pearson.  Having read that, I think I will change my mind.

If criteria is 7-8 years past performance the RDM is rightly ahead on that basis.

Either way both need their own coaching team.

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5350 on: May 23, 2016, 02:50:16 PM »
I think Xia will take Hollis' preferred candidate Pearson. I think there will have been mentions of Little and the old board and why they think Pearson is the best choice for our situation and he will roll with that.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5351 on: May 23, 2016, 02:52:51 PM »
It makes you wonder what caused David Moyes to lose interest so dramatically. After all he does know Wyness well. Perhaps he is privy to inside information that we are not.

He's at a precarious point in his career where another failure would seriously impact on his reputation.  Maybe he thought it was just too much of a risk and will wait for other options. 

Apart from grey, cotton Y fronts, the thing Moyes loves most is money. I'm not sure dropping a division was the problem, maybe it was a drop in salary that scared him off.

My guess is he'll wait until November to pick up a job in the PL as right now I can't see anybody apart from Albion that could possibly consider him this summer.

Offline mattjpa

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5352 on: May 23, 2016, 02:57:15 PM »
Question for anyone with an inside knowledge of how bookies work. I suppose its immoral but...on the basis of what Dr X said about it being a done deal, if the bookies were sure it was Di Matteo for instance, could they begin to drastically shorten the odds on Moyes to coax others into betting? its just from what ive seen and read, the only info that has caused this surge on Moyes is that he met our representatives last week, there is a very good chance the other two prime candidates did as well. Its now come out we havent even made an offer for Moyes to turn down - weve simply had discussions which have led to him considering the prospect and saying I dont want to be considered thanks. For all we know, this could have happened last week as well and its only coming out now to quash speculation

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5353 on: May 23, 2016, 02:58:00 PM »
I think Xia will take Hollis' preferred candidate Pearson. I think there will have been mentions of Little and the old board and why they think Pearson is the best choice for our situation and he will roll with that.

You'd hope that Sir Brian would sit Pearson down and explain to him that acting the knob will not be tolerated at Aston Villa.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5354 on: May 23, 2016, 03:04:46 PM »
Question for anyone with an inside knowledge of how bookies work. I suppose its immoral but...on the basis of what Dr X said about it being a done deal, if the bookies were sure it was Di Matteo for instance, could they begin to drastically shorten the odds on Moyes to coax others into betting?

If one bookmaker dropped the odds but the others didn't, nobody would bet with them as they'd get better odds elsewhere.

If all the bookies colluded to reduce the price that would be illegal price fixing.

 


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