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Offline KevinGage

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5100 on: May 22, 2016, 04:48:29 PM »
Sexy football?

First step: stop being the reserve comedy act at Bill Smart's.
Second step: get promoted however it's done.
Third step: evaluate and move on

Moyes for steps 1 & 2. Give him a chance at step 3.

My take on it also.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5101 on: May 22, 2016, 04:49:34 PM »
If we appoint Moyes it would indicate that the good doctor is serious about this and has convinced both him from a football perspective and a money man in Hollis. That will go a long way to satisfying some of the uncertaintiy.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5102 on: May 22, 2016, 04:52:05 PM »
Yes I to wanted Moyes from the off, I along with a lot on here wanted Moyes when the noisy minority were shouting for Garde

Not that he was an option available to us at that point or anything.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5103 on: May 22, 2016, 04:52:59 PM »
We don't just need a decent manager, we need one with a strong personality, and who will rebuild this club from the ground up.

Of the three names mentioned, Moyes strikes me as the obvious one.

What's more, we have just been relegated, we are going to need to try to remain relevant and high profile. Appointing Moyes would certainly achieve that. Moyes and Benitez managing in the championship would make for a very interesting season 

I'm amazed some are turning their nose up at him.
Once again, Paulie thinks exactly the same as I do.

Offline conman

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5104 on: May 22, 2016, 04:54:39 PM »
I don't think Moyes will find a bigger job than Aston Villa this summer. And we won't find a more established or reputable manger than him.
Or more dour and boring.

You would've hated Ron Saunders.

Ron was neither dour or boring. He was dry and funny with it.
and successfull, his teams were not exactly dull either.No comparison.

Prior to Villa he won a second division title at Norwich. Hardly successful before the masterstroke he pulled off with us. Sometimes things just need to align and they did for him with us.
it is legitimate to compare his time with Everton and Rons time with us, in FAct it isn't because there is no comparison and it was pretty idiotic for someone to bring the great mans name into a debate about Moyes.
Ron was a great manager for us , then he lost the plot relegating Blues and West Brom , Moyes was a good manager for Everton , then he lost the plot at Man U and Real Sociedad

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5105 on: May 22, 2016, 04:59:03 PM »
I think the general consensus is he was unable to dictate the  narrative at United for a variety of well documented reasons - as for Real, who knows, but he isn't the first British manager to crash and burn in the Spanish sun.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5106 on: May 22, 2016, 05:03:30 PM »
Sexy football?

First step: stop being the reserve comedy act at Bill Smart's.
Second step: get promoted however it's done.
Third step: evaluate and move on

Moyes for steps 1 & 2. Give him a chance at step 3.

Spot on.

Offline mr woo

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5107 on: May 22, 2016, 05:04:52 PM »
From an article towards the end of Moyes stint at Everton :

"They are one of just six clubs, along with Swansea, Wigan, Newcastle, Reading and Arsenal, to record a profit in that time, in Everton's case £12.3m, and if you tot up the figures going all the way back to Moyes's appointment in March 2002 his importance becomes even more stark. Everton's average net spend per season in the Moyes years comes in at a mere £803,000. Compare that with Aston Villa's average of £10.8m over the past decade, Stoke's £7.8m and Sunderland £7.6m and their corresponding league positions: Everton pushing for a Champions League place until recently; Villa, Stoke and Sunderland fighting relegation."


https://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/may/04/david-moyes-everton

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5108 on: May 22, 2016, 05:06:21 PM »
I don't think Moyes will find a bigger job than Aston Villa this summer. And we won't find a more established or reputable manger than him.
Or more dour and boring.

You would've hated Ron Saunders.

Ron was neither dour or boring. He was dry and funny with it.
and successfull, his teams were not exactly dull either.No comparison.

Prior to Villa he won a second division title at Norwich. Hardly successful before the masterstroke he pulled off with us. Sometimes things just need to align and they did for him with us.
it is legitimate to compare his time with Everton and Rons time with us, in FAct it isn't because there is no comparison and it was pretty idiotic for someone to bring the great mans name into a debate about Moyes.
Ron was a great manager for us , then he lost the plot relegating Blues and West Brom , Moyes was a good manager for Everton , then he lost the plot at Man U and Real Sociedad

Then he got the Blues promoted with one of the worst squads they have ever had. Thats how good he was.

Offline JUAN PABLO

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5109 on: May 22, 2016, 05:14:14 PM »
I really really doubt that Moyes would be the man to build the next three Villa sides. He could build the next one, to get us up, and that would be great and is all we need think about. However, if Xia really does want us to be competing in the top 6 in today's league I have massive doubts.

However, cross that bridge if we come to it. Moyes would be a lot better than most of the suggested names!

well Xia and Moyes sounds better than Lerner and Black already ;)

and If we do appoint Moyes within the next week , I am sure it will look like Dr Xia is the real thing

« Last Edit: May 22, 2016, 05:17:51 PM by JUAN PABLO »

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5110 on: May 22, 2016, 05:20:40 PM »
Desperately want Moyes, I still think however he is a step too far for us to aspire too right now. 

I am now looking at Nigel Pearson and despite  my reservations as to his anger management (well we all  have that to a certain degree) - would take him on the basis that again he knows the division and what it will take to take us back to the premiership.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5111 on: May 22, 2016, 05:22:08 PM »
I don't think Moyes will find a bigger job than Aston Villa this summer. And we won't find a more established or reputable manger than him.
Or more dour and boring.

You would've hated Ron Saunders.

Ron was neither dour or boring. He was dry and funny with it.
and successfull, his teams were not exactly dull either.No comparison.

Prior to Villa he won a second division title at Norwich. Hardly successful before the masterstroke he pulled off with us. Sometimes things just need to align and they did for him with us.
it is legitimate to compare his time with Everton and Rons time with us, in FAct it isn't because there is no comparison and it was pretty idiotic for someone to bring the great mans name into a debate about Moyes.
Ron was a great manager for us , then he lost the plot relegating Blues and West Brom , Moyes was a good manager for Everton , then he lost the plot at Man U and Real Sociedad

Then he got the Blues promoted with one of the worst squads they have ever had. Thats how good he was.

Then got them relegated again, with Altrincham and the Stripeys for an encore. He was a great manager for us but a disaster afterwards.

Offline Trinitymiddle

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5112 on: May 22, 2016, 05:24:12 PM »
I don't think Moyes will find a bigger job than Aston Villa this summer. And we won't find a more established or reputable manger than him.
Or more dour and boring.

You would've hated Ron Saunders.

Ron was neither dour or boring. He was dry and funny with it.
and successfull, his teams were not exactly dull either.No comparison.

Prior to Villa he won a second division title at Norwich. Hardly successful before the masterstroke he pulled off with us. Sometimes things just need to align and they did for him with us.
He also got Norwich and then Man city to the League Cup Final when it actually meant a bit more than it does now.

Offline Tony Erdington

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5113 on: May 22, 2016, 05:26:19 PM »
I don't think Moyes will find a bigger job than Aston Villa this summer. And we won't find a more established or reputable manger than him.
Or more dour and boring.

You would've hated Ron Saunders.

Ron was neither dour or boring. He was dry and funny with it.
and successfull, his teams were not exactly dull either.No comparison.

Prior to Villa he won a second division title at Norwich. Hardly successful before the masterstroke he pulled off with us. Sometimes things just need to align and they did for him with us.
it is legitimate to compare his time with Everton and Rons time with us, in FAct it isn't because there is no comparison and it was pretty idiotic for someone to bring the great mans name into a debate about Moyes.
Ron was a great manager for us , then he lost the plot relegating Blues and West Brom , Moyes was a good manager for Everton , then he lost the plot at Man U and Real Sociedad

Then he got the Blues promoted with one of the worst squads they have ever had. Thats how good he was.

Then got them relegated again, with Altrincham and the Stripeys for an encore. He was a great manager for us but a disaster afterwards.

You see Dave that's where I disagree with you, I think Sir Ron carried on being the Great manager, to mess the noses up and then the bitters was outstanding work.

Offline wittonwarrior

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5114 on: May 22, 2016, 05:29:06 PM »
To be fair after Goodwin the Blues went through managers like smarties - Saunders was outstanding from day 1  for us.

 


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