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Offline Rudy Can't Fail

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5055 on: May 22, 2016, 01:59:03 PM »
Moyes will only come here if he has money to spend. Something that was missing when Lerner approached him.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5056 on: May 22, 2016, 01:59:51 PM »
Any manager would love to have the "promoted and then top finish" on their CV - that is the proof that they are just not setting some amazing players on 11 positions

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5057 on: May 22, 2016, 02:07:02 PM »
I don't think Moyes will find a bigger job than Aston Villa this summer. And we won't find a more established or reputable manger than him.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5058 on: May 22, 2016, 02:14:42 PM »
Looking at past tables for the Championship, two points per game will almost certainly earn automatic promotion; and on occasion, quite a few points lower than that can be enough. With that in mind, it seems more about being able to accumulate points at a steady rate, while minimising the duration of the dry stretches, rather than actually having to be some sort of relentless winning machine.

On that basis, that seems to me to suit Moyes: the impression I've always gotten from him is that his teams are structured in a way to maximise the possibility of earning at least one point; and then be ready push forward from that whenever the three points are there for the taking (and they usually will be at home, especially against Championship-level sides). That sort of mindset is never going to yield particularly high points totals, but it does mean the floor is set pretty high.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5059 on: May 22, 2016, 02:49:45 PM »
There would also be a different set of rules that govern how he would have to manage in the Championship vs PL. the mandate for him or anyone else would be promotion so he would need to be aggressive in order to achieve that. For much of his time at Everton as it is still with most clubs, the priority is staying in the league. He still created solid if unspectacular sides which when we get back we can complain about in earnest. Right now he'd do just fine.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5060 on: May 22, 2016, 03:11:46 PM »
We don't just need a decent manager, we need one with a strong personality, and who will rebuild this club from the ground up.

Of the three names mentioned, Moyes strikes me as the obvious one.

What's more, we have just been relegated, we are going to need to try to remain relevant and high profile. Appointing Moyes would certainly achieve that. Moyes and Benitez managing in the championship would make for a very interesting season 

I'm amazed some are turning their nose up at him.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5061 on: May 22, 2016, 03:13:20 PM »
Is there really any other choice from the three that appear to be shortlisted? I mean really?


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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5062 on: May 22, 2016, 03:15:21 PM »
I don't think Moyes will find a bigger job than Aston Villa this summer. And we won't find a more established or reputable manger than him.
Or more dour and boring.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5063 on: May 22, 2016, 03:18:03 PM »
On that basis, that seems to me to suit Moyes: the impression I've always gotten from him is that his teams are structured in a way to maximise the possibility of earning at least one point; and then be ready push forward from that whenever the three points are there for the taking (and they usually will be at home, especially against Championship-level sides). That sort of mindset is never going to yield particularly high points totals, but it does mean the floor is set pretty high.

That's very similar to what I read about him from Everton fans. Everybody is left confused and frustrated with his team selection, he prefers to play it safe and contain the opposition for 70/75 minutes, then bring on the creative players (you thought should have started the game) to try and win it.

If he does come here I hope he loses the tag he earned at Everton of 'Dithering Dave' due to the time it takes him to complete a transfer. Apparently he's extremely, extremely thorough. Ideally we'd have most of our new squad together for the start of pre-season but don't count on it with Moyes. I wonder if that was one of the reasons his Everton sides always seemed to start the season so poorly?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5064 on: May 22, 2016, 03:19:03 PM »
I don't think Moyes will find a bigger job than Aston Villa this summer. And we won't find a more established or reputable manger than him.
Or more dour and boring.

You would've hated Ron Saunders.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5065 on: May 22, 2016, 03:20:36 PM »
One other thing with Moyes, Everton were notoriously strict with player medicals.

It would be nice to sign a player who didn't miss half of his first season through injury.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5066 on: May 22, 2016, 03:21:49 PM »
I don't think Moyes will find a bigger job than Aston Villa this summer. And we won't find a more established or reputable manger than him.
Or more dour and boring.
Ron was a winner.  Moyes won nothing nowt with Everton and bored their fans stupid.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5067 on: May 22, 2016, 03:25:05 PM »
I don't think Moyes will find a bigger job than Aston Villa this summer. And we won't find a more established or reputable manger than him.
Or more dour and boring.

You would've hated Ron Saunders.

Ron was neither dour or boring. He was dry and funny with it.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5068 on: May 22, 2016, 03:25:39 PM »
Cautios, stubborn, indecisive and dull.
Maybe just what we need, maybe we don't have much choice.
The reason he was chosen as Siralex successor was on the basis he would slot in with the allready established back room staff.
He didn't, they could not work with him and they left, he then bought in his old cronies who attempted to turn Utd into Everton and we saw how that ended up.
He was useless and completely out of his depth in Spain with fans and players turning on him.
Somehow he is now our saviour.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5069 on: May 22, 2016, 03:26:08 PM »
To us maybe. Other fans considered him dour. I'm sure we would get to like Moyes if he won a few games.

 


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