Manager for next season

[Monty]

On our way back last week, we stopped off for a beer and and we were joined by a coach load of Leicester fans. I got chatting to a couple of them who said Pearson was a fantastic manager who would get us back up.

Whenever I speak to Leicester fans the feeling seems to be that he's a good manager for the upper-Championship/lower-Premier League. Which is, obviously, where we are right now as a club. I'm just not so sure I'd want him in at this moment when we seem to be starting something long-term, because he doesn't strike me as the most long-term planner ever to come into management.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

On our way back last week, we stopped off for a beer and and we were joined by a coach load of Leicester fans. I got chatting to a couple of them who said Pearson was a fantastic manager who would get us back up.

Whenever I speak to Leicester fans the feeling seems to be that he's a good manager for the upper-Championship/lower-Premier League. Which is, obviously, where we are right now as a club. I'm just not so sure I'd want him in at this moment when we seem to be starting something long-term, because he doesn't strike me as the most long-term planner ever to come into management.

That's why I don't want Moyes, he is "the the most long-term planner ever to come into management" and not only will he take his time, it will be rather dull while we wait for his 50 year plan to bear fruit.

[paul_e]

I can't believe, given our position, that, if he were interested in coming to this, still, clusterfuck of a club, people are turning their nose up at David Moyes.

Neither can I.

I also can't believe Nigel Pearson is seen as such a great option.

I'm quite staggered by it too, if we were to get Moyes in it would be an amazing coup given where we are.

I'm with you both on the Pearson thing, the guy is an absolute wanker who people seem to want purely so the wankers in the team have to deal with a wanker in the dugout.

I think the nutter angle is overplayed, I'm attracted to Pearson because I think he's capable of rebuilding on the basis of what he did, and what I've heard from Leicester fans.

I also feel he'd have a point to prove, and that we might just be the recipients of someone who's ready to really make his name.

He grabbed an opposition player round the throat during a game, offered to fight a fan and acted like a prize c**t with a reporter, he's definitely a nutter and his record really isn't good enough to offset it.  Take away 2 months at the end of 14/15 and he'd not even be in the frame.

[OCD]

On our way back last week, we stopped off for a beer and and we were joined by a coach load of Leicester fans. I got chatting to a couple of them who said Pearson was a fantastic manager who would get us back up.

Whenever I speak to Leicester fans the feeling seems to be that he's a good manager for the upper-Championship/lower-Premier League. Which is, obviously, where we are right now as a club. I'm just not so sure I'd want him in at this moment when we seem to be starting something long-term, because he doesn't strike me as the most long-term planner ever to come into management.

He's certainly left Leicester in a much better state than he found it and that's my first requirement for any appointment. Maybe he himself won't last any longer than a year or two but he's got the experience of getting a side promoted (with a record points tally, wasn't it?), how to organise behind the scenes and if he can't get his preferred people in, then he knows what to look for. He's been my preferred choice since I started finding out what Leicester fans think of him, even if it's just for a year or two before we can look for someone who can be a long-term appointment and lay down a long-term blueprint.

[LeeB]

I can't believe, given our position, that, if he were interested in coming to this, still, clusterfuck of a club, people are turning their nose up at David Moyes.

Neither can I.

I also can't believe Nigel Pearson is seen as such a great option.

I'm quite staggered by it too, if we were to get Moyes in it would be an amazing coup given where we are.

I'm with you both on the Pearson thing, the guy is an absolute wanker who people seem to want purely so the wankers in the team have to deal with a wanker in the dugout.

I think the nutter angle is overplayed, I'm attracted to Pearson because I think he's capable of rebuilding on the basis of what he did, and what I've heard from Leicester fans.

I also feel he'd have a point to prove, and that we might just be the recipients of someone who's ready to really make his name.

He grabbed an opposition player round the throat during a game, offered to fight a fan and acted like a prize c**t with a reporter, he's definitely a nutter and his record really isn't good enough to offset it.  Take away 2 months at the end of 14/15 and he'd not even be in the frame.

Take away that two months if you please, but then don't discount the work he did for their two promotions.

And if would be folly to dismiss the work ethic and the cutting edge back room set up that has helped them deliver what they have this season.

James McArthur has one of those faces, too.

[nigel]

A big no for Moyes.
Do we really want another Scotsman?
I can't remember a successful Scot manager at VP in my lifetime.

So? What does the performance of a person have to do with the nationality of their predecessors?

If you applied for a job, would they be justified in turning you down if the previous incumbent was sacked for embezzlement and incompetence and he happened to be from the same country as you?

Pick the best man for the job, regardless of nationality.

Our European Cup-winning manager was English. The next English manager we had helped get us relegated. The next one we had after that was brilliant again.

The nationality of a predecessor has no bearing whatsoever on the capability of a potential successor.

It's my opinion, and I don't happen to think Moyes is the best man for the job either.
If he gets the job, though, he will have my, 100%, support.

That's fair enough. There are legitimate reasons for not wanting Moyes... I want him but would admit he stunk out the last two clubs he managed. However, his nationality is not a reason to reject him, as you implied in your earlier post.

It may have just been a jokey remark that I have read too much into though, in fairness!

It was a tongue in cheek remark, yes. No offence is ever taken this end of the keyboard
I think Ramsey was the last successful Scottish manager, and that was in the 30's

I'd have a manager from outer Mongolia if I thought he/she would take us back

[PaulWinch again]

On our way back last week, we stopped off for a beer and and we were joined by a coach load of Leicester fans. I got chatting to a couple of them who said Pearson was a fantastic manager who would get us back up.

Whenever I speak to Leicester fans the feeling seems to be that he's a good manager for the upper-Championship/lower-Premier League. Which is, obviously, where we are right now as a club. I'm just not so sure I'd want him in at this moment when we seem to be starting something long-term, because he doesn't strike me as the most long-term planner ever to come into management.

That's why I don't want Moyes, he is "the the most long-term planner ever to come into management" and not only will he take his time, it will be rather dull while we wait for his 50 year plan to bear fruit.

You don't want a manager with a long term plan? I think we need to remember we've just been relegated and frankly Moyes would be a hell of a coup. He would also be an indication that the doubts around Dr Tony are maybe a little bit unfair.

[pauliewalnuts]

I can't believe, given our position, that, if he were interested in coming to this, still, clusterfuck of a club, people are turning their nose up at David Moyes.

Neither can I.

I also can't believe Nigel Pearson is seen as such a great option.

I'm quite staggered by it too, if we were to get Moyes in it would be an amazing coup given where we are.

I'm with you both on the Pearson thing, the guy is an absolute wanker who people seem to want purely so the wankers in the team have to deal with a wanker in the dugout.

I think the nutter angle is overplayed, I'm attracted to Pearson because I think he's capable of rebuilding on the basis of what he did, and what I've heard from Leicester fans.

I also feel he'd have a point to prove, and that we might just be the recipients of someone who's ready to really make his name.

He grabbed an opposition player round the throat during a game, offered to fight a fan and acted like a prize c**t with a reporter, he's definitely a nutter and his record really isn't good enough to offset it.  Take away 2 months at the end of 14/15 and he'd not even be in the frame.

Take away that two months if you please, but then don't discount the work he did for their two promotions.

And if would be folly to dismiss the work ethic and the cutting edge back room set up that has helped them deliver what they have this season.

James McArthur has one of those faces, too.

Telling a fan to "fuck off and die" during a match wasn't really very nice, either.

This club is such a mess, the absolute last thing it needs is another fucking headcase thrown into the mix. It's already a basket case, Pearson would just make it worse.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

On our way back last week, we stopped off for a beer and and we were joined by a coach load of Leicester fans. I got chatting to a couple of them who said Pearson was a fantastic manager who would get us back up.

Whenever I speak to Leicester fans the feeling seems to be that he's a good manager for the upper-Championship/lower-Premier League. Which is, obviously, where we are right now as a club. I'm just not so sure I'd want him in at this moment when we seem to be starting something long-term, because he doesn't strike me as the most long-term planner ever to come into management.

That's why I don't want Moyes, he is "the the most long-term planner ever to come into management" and not only will he take his time, it will be rather dull while we wait for his 50 year plan to bear fruit.

You don't want a manager with a long term plan? I think we need to remember we've just been relegated and frankly Moyes would be a hell of a coup. He would also be an indication that the doubts around Dr Tony are maybe a little bit unfair.

A coup. A statement of intent. A name. Like pissing down your leg, it gives you a nice warm feeling but after that it's crap.

Villa fans swooning over Moyes reminds me of the Sunderland fans with MON. And we all know how that ended.

[Toronto Villa]

While telling a fan to "fuck off and die" was not the best thing to say, the fan in question was a fucking cock for saying what he did. And it wasn't that one game either. It was over a series of games. Let's not make this all one sided.

[Clampy]

I can understand why people would be against Pearson. I also get why some don't fancy Moyes either. My gripe with Moyes is that his Everton teams never really starting playing until January, they always seemed to have a slow start. Pearson does seem to have a bit of arrogance which sometimes helps. Like I said, I understand the arguments against both.

[PaulWinch again]

On our way back last week, we stopped off for a beer and and we were joined by a coach load of Leicester fans. I got chatting to a couple of them who said Pearson was a fantastic manager who would get us back up.

Whenever I speak to Leicester fans the feeling seems to be that he's a good manager for the upper-Championship/lower-Premier League. Which is, obviously, where we are right now as a club. I'm just not so sure I'd want him in at this moment when we seem to be starting something long-term, because he doesn't strike me as the most long-term planner ever to come into management.

That's why I don't want Moyes, he is "the the most long-term planner ever to come into management" and not only will he take his time, it will be rather dull while we wait for his 50 year plan to bear fruit.

You don't want a manager with a long term plan? I think we need to remember we've just been relegated and frankly Moyes would be a hell of a coup. He would also be an indication that the doubts around Dr Tony are maybe a little bit unfair.

A coup. A statement of intent. A name. Like pissing down your leg, it gives you a nice warm feeling but after that it's crap.

Villa fans swooning over Moyes reminds me of the Sunderland fans with MON. And we all know how that ended.

Yes but I go back to fact that we are in the Championship now. You seem
to be massively against Moyes and your basis for that is long term planning. So I'm assuming you didn't rate the job he did at Everton? Because to be honest if he managed to do anywhere near what he did at Everton with Villa we'd be in a pretty bloody good position.

[Toronto Villa]

I wonder if a Villa player will wear the number 4 shirt if the deal does go through. It's a very unlucky number in Chinese culture.

[Rudy65]

Chris Coleman is staying on as Wales manager, so he's not coming to Villa

Good

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Yes but I go back to fact that we are in the Championship now. You seem
to be massively against Moyes and your basis for that is long term planning. So I'm assuming you didn't rate the job he did at Everton? Because to be honest if he managed to do anywhere near what he did at Everton with Villa we'd be in a pretty bloody good position.

Paul, I think he would need all the time in the world to actually achieve the giddy heights of what he achieved at Everton. He's not a winner, his teams don't play to win, they play not to lose first and foremost. To get out of the Championship we need to win week in, week out. That mentality is completely alien to Moyes. He's a very safe pair of hands to grind out results and finish in the top half. Even at Man Utd he still went safety first and it was no surprise they got rid. The less said about his time in Spain the better.