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Online pauliewalnuts

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4800 on: May 19, 2016, 10:15:08 PM »
Whoever comes in needs to restructure the footballing side of the club, Pearson did this at Leicester.

My worry is that a lot of people are saying "he's the hard type, he'll knock them into shape" when we had the ultimate hard type at the club last year, Roy Keane, and none of his abrasiveness had the slightest impact.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4801 on: May 19, 2016, 10:16:00 PM »
Davy moyes and Pearson are too old school . RDM or someone of the ilk and calibre is what's needed.
Vincento Montela or Frank De Boer would be as impressive yet RDM has already proven his success.
Monk Martinez and Rodgers would be only other football options worth taking. What is of paramount importance is the recruitment of players so the whole staff coming in needed to be efficient.
Side note I'm impressed with emry of sevilla real capable guy and he shown up flopp yesterday. Though I do like klopp his players are struggling with  style and system and he 'll continue to get inconsistency from team and individuals till he gets his men in.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4802 on: May 19, 2016, 10:16:43 PM »
I'm going to put it out there - Di Matteo is shit

He is basically an Italian Tim Sherwood
Although his managerial CV proves otherwise.

Still pining for Pearson I reckon.


Correct. RDM is shite

So shit he's been successful at every club he's managed.



So before this week was in your top 10 managers you wanted? Was he in anybody's? He's very, very average.

His record is not very very average though is it?

Neither was Paul Lamberts
Neither was Remi Garde's

If RDM is such a successful manager then why hasn't he been debated at any length on here? Why, when Remi Garde was removed was no one saying 'Di Matteo is the man - look at his record'  now he's been linked folk are doing the usual thing of trying to justify it when in actual fact, no one gave RDM a second thought until a few days ago.  We're talking about someone who was put of football for the thick end of two years after he was sacked at Chelsea. Who came knocking down his door for his services during that time?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4803 on: May 19, 2016, 10:19:14 PM »
I'm going to put it out there - Di Matteo is shit

He is basically an Italian Tim Sherwood
Although his managerial CV proves otherwise.

Still pining for Pearson I reckon.


Correct. RDM is shite

So shit he's been successful at every club he's managed.



So before this week was in your top 10 managers you wanted? Was he in anybody's? He's very, very average.

I hadn't really thought about him to be honest, as he hadn't been mentioned.

Do you not think he's had a successful career? What is it about him you consider average?

Have you just got your heart set on the ostrich nutcase and unwilling to give fair consideration to the merits of any other contender?


I rate Pearson highly but there are managers id take before him but they won't come to us. Pearson ticks all the boxes for me. 

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4804 on: May 19, 2016, 10:21:37 PM »
I'm going to put it out there - Di Matteo is shit

He is basically an Italian Tim Sherwood
Although his managerial CV proves otherwise.

Still pining for Pearson I reckon.


Correct. RDM is shite

So shit he's been successful at every club he's managed.



So before this week was in your top 10 managers you wanted? Was he in anybody's? He's very, very average.

His record is not very very average though is it?

Neither was Paul Lamberts
Neither was Remi Garde's

If RDM is such a successful manager then why hasn't he been debated at any length on here? Why, when Remi Garde was removed was no one saying 'Di Matteo is the man - look at his record'  now he's been linked folk are doing the usual thing of trying to justify it when in actual fact, no one gave RDM a second thought until a few days ago.  We're talking about someone who was put of football for the thick end of two years after he was sacked at Chelsea. Who came knocking down his door for his services during that time?

We're in the Championship - our choices are going to be significantly limited as a result of that.

I'm not suggesting we need to start to poke around the Warnock end of the market, far from it, just that we're more limited in our choices now.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4805 on: May 19, 2016, 10:21:54 PM »
Whoever comes in needs to restructure the footballing side of the club, Pearson did this at Leicester.

I would have thought it was the owners too involved with a organisational restructure.  I mean the king power owners said they would spend to make top 5 and wanted champions league football and they have delivered.  I very much see villa happening same way and even bigger than leicestr success due to already massive statue in the football world which will only get bigger. I saw other clubs Leeds and Newcastle as two examples being annoyed and envious of our buy out. I think with the right manager villa will achieve what Leicester did within 5 years ! That's if everything falls into place

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4806 on: May 19, 2016, 10:24:23 PM »
I'm going to put it out there - Di Matteo is shit

He is basically an Italian Tim Sherwood
Although his managerial CV proves otherwise.

Still pining for Pearson I reckon.


Correct. RDM is shite

So shit he's been successful at every club he's managed.



So before this week was in your top 10 managers you wanted? Was he in anybody's? He's very, very average.

His record is not very very average though is it?

Neither was Paul Lamberts
Neither was Remi Garde's

If RDM is such a successful manager then why hasn't he been debated at any length on here? Why, when Remi Garde was removed was no one saying 'Di Matteo is the man - look at his record'  now he's been linked folk are doing the usual thing of trying to justify it when in actual fact, no one gave RDM a second thought until a few days ago.  We're talking about someone who was put of football for the thick end of two years after he was sacked at Chelsea. Who came knocking down his door for his services during that time?

We're in the Championship - our choices are going to be significantly limited as a result of that.

I'm not suggesting we need to start to poke around the Warnock end of the market, far from it, just that we're more limited in our choices now.


I understand that, and I agree with you. But I haven't seen many ambitious championship clubs sniff around RDM either.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4807 on: May 19, 2016, 10:26:14 PM »
There is plenty of other managers who probably have not been discussed but have great pedigree or have been successful, that does not mean if they come to attention we have to ignore them.

When you compare Pearson to RDM on stats and character, RDM comes out on top.

For all your arguments other than he's not been mentioned why is he shite?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4808 on: May 19, 2016, 10:26:52 PM »
Whoever comes in needs to restructure the footballing side of the club, Pearson did this at Leicester.

I would have thought it was the owners too involved with a organisational restructure.  I mean the king power owners said they would spend to make top 5 and wanted champions league football and they have delivered.  I very much see villa happening same way and even bigger than leicestr success due to already massive statue in the football world which will only get bigger. I saw other clubs Leeds and Newcastle as two examples being annoyed and envious of our buy out. I think with the right manager villa will achieve what Leicester did within 5 years ! That's if everything falls into place


I think you've been on the sauce tbh

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4809 on: May 19, 2016, 10:28:05 PM »
I have to admit, as far as I was concerned RDM had dropped off the radar completely, I never even thought about him.  I think he's one of these Marmite choices, you either do or you don't.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4810 on: May 19, 2016, 10:28:27 PM »
I'm going to put it out there - Di Matteo is shit

He is basically an Italian Tim Sherwood
Although his managerial CV proves otherwise.

Still pining for Pearson I reckon.


Correct. RDM is shite

So shit he's been successful at every club he's managed.



So before this week was in your top 10 managers you wanted? Was he in anybody's? He's very, very average.

His record is not very very average though is it?

Neither was Paul Lamberts
Neither was Remi Garde's

If RDM is such a successful manager then why hasn't he been debated at any length on here? Why, when Remi Garde was removed was no one saying 'Di Matteo is the man - look at his record'  now he's been linked folk are doing the usual thing of trying to justify it when in actual fact, no one gave RDM a second thought until a few days ago.  We're talking about someone who was put of football for the thick end of two years after he was sacked at Chelsea. Who came knocking down his door for his services during that time?

We're in the Championship - our choices are going to be significantly limited as a result of that.

I'm not suggesting we need to start to poke around the Warnock end of the market, far from it, just that we're more limited in our choices now.


I understand that, and I agree with you. But I haven't seen many ambitious championship clubs sniff around RDM either.

To be honest I thought he was still sat in his arse drawing a retainer from Chelsea.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4811 on: May 19, 2016, 10:32:13 PM »
I understand that, and I agree with you. But I haven't seen many ambitious championship clubs sniff around RDM either.

True, but then again, we don't really know what goes on under the radar. Maybe they have? Maybe he's had lots of offers? I don't know either way.

What scares me is that we're going to wind up making an appointment of someone as they seem like "a championship manager" when that's not what we need, we need someone more able to do it at a higher level.

I'm not some sort of Di Matteo groupie, I think he'd be a good appointment but am not going to start praying or anything, but I can see the merit in it being someone like him.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4812 on: May 19, 2016, 10:32:15 PM »
Whoever comes in needs to restructure the footballing side of the club, Pearson did this at Leicester.

I would have thought it was the owners too involved with a organisational restructure.  I mean the king power owners said they would spend to make top 5 and wanted champions league football and they have delivered.  I very much see villa happening same way and even bigger than leicestr success due to already massive statue in the football world which will only get bigger. I saw other clubs Leeds and Newcastle as two examples being annoyed and envious of our buy out. I think with the right manager villa will achieve what Leicester did within 5 years ! That's if everything falls into place


I think you've been on the sauce tbh

No he hasn't.  Think a little deeper.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4813 on: May 19, 2016, 10:40:16 PM »
I'm going to put it out there - Di Matteo is shit

He is basically an Italian Tim Sherwood
Although his managerial CV proves otherwise.

Still pining for Pearson I reckon.


Correct. RDM is shite

So shit he's been successful at every club he's managed.



So before this week was in your top 10 managers you wanted? Was he in anybody's? He's very, very average.

I hadn't really thought about him to be honest, as he hadn't been mentioned.

Do you not think he's had a successful career? What is it about him you consider average?

Have you just got your heart set on the ostrich nutcase and unwilling to give fair consideration to the merits of any other contender?


I rate Pearson highly but there are managers id take before him but they won't come to us. Pearson ticks all the boxes for me.

The only thing you've said that Pearson has over Di Matteo is that he has been linked with us a lot more.

You've dismissed out of hand the idea that Di Matteo has a successful record by comparing him with Lambert and Garde. For the record he has a much more impressive CV than either of them, or than Pearson.

What criteria are you judging managers by? Is it only managers who are highly linked that matter? Should we just ignore candidates' managerial history, tactical acumen, trophy count and so on and just appoint the first bloke Sky Sports News link with the job?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4814 on: May 19, 2016, 10:42:37 PM »
Just to help out, I'm going to list all the managers who are available, who we could get, who have won the highest honour in club football and yet also have a record of having achieved what we are most hoping for, namely being promoted to the Premier League at the first attempt.

(i) Roberto Di Matteo.

List ends.

 


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