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Offline Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4680 on: May 18, 2016, 08:39:03 PM »
When he was at the Albion, some mates told me he started off great but completely lost the plot towards the end.

Tim Sherwood-esque?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4681 on: May 18, 2016, 08:40:39 PM »
At the risk of turning in to Tim Sherwood, he's got a win ratio of 50% over 200 games, what's wrong with that?

Took Mk Dons to the play offs. Promoted the Bitters then gave them their best Premier league start. Won the big one and the Carling Cup with Chelsea and  was 3rd when Chelsea replaced him with 23pts in 11 games. Took over Schalke 11th and finished 6th.

It looks pretty impressive to me.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4682 on: May 18, 2016, 08:47:22 PM »
MK Dons: only had one season there. Lost on penalties in the playoff semi-finals. Considering they'd only been promoted the previous season that's not a bad return. Verdict: SUCCESS.

West Brom: got them promoted at the first attempt. They were above the relegation zone the following season when he was, rather harshly, sacked. Verdict: SUCCESS

Chelsea: of course any achievement at that club has to be viewed while considering that just about anyone could do well there with their resources and squad. Nevertheless, he won the trophy that eluded Mourinho, Ranieri, Hiddink, Ancelotti and others, and added another trophy. He didn't do well in the league by their standards in his first season, but he had improved in the second season when he was dismissed. Verdict: SUCCESS.

Schalke: took over with them in eleventh, finished sixth. Did have a poor end to the season so I won't call it an outright success. Verdict: OKAY.

So overall, I'm not seeing what part of his managerial history really worries people?

Offline Taylor

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4683 on: May 18, 2016, 08:48:04 PM »
Whenever we recruit a new manager I tend to consider his suitability as a "villa fit". I'm not always right. I always thought Remi was, and Sherwood (oops). But I definitely didn't get same feeling with mcleish or going further back o'leary. Di matteo on the other hand I like and think will be a good fit. Pearson  or Warnock will never seem like villa managers for me.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4684 on: May 18, 2016, 08:50:15 PM »
I have to say that I'm almost completely discounting his Chelsea success, given he was caretaker boss, and it wasn't his squad. Looking at his record there, I'm probably being a tad unfair, but I'm more interested in the teams he created rather than inherited. I'm whelmed, that's all.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4685 on: May 18, 2016, 08:50:41 PM »
I don't think de Matteo is big enough hard enough or good enough to sort out our shower of poosters

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4686 on: May 18, 2016, 08:51:51 PM »
I don't think de Matteo is big enough hard enough or good enough to sort out our shower of poosters

Hopefully John they won't be there for much longer, that's part of the plan.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4687 on: May 18, 2016, 08:52:29 PM »
I don't think de Matteo is big enough hard enough or good enough to sort out our shower of poosters
Let's hope he buys some new ones then.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4688 on: May 18, 2016, 08:52:56 PM »
MK Dons: only had one season there. Lost on penalties in the playoff semi-finals. Considering they'd only been promoted the previous season that's not a bad return. Verdict: SUCCESS.

West Brom: got them promoted at the first attempt. They were above the relegation zone the following season when he was, rather harshly, sacked. Verdict: SUCCESS

Chelsea: of course any achievement at that club has to be viewed while considering that just about anyone could do well there with their resources and squad. Nevertheless, he won the trophy that eluded Mourinho, Ranieri, Hiddink, Ancelotti and others, and added another trophy. He didn't do well in the league by their standards in his first season, but he had improved in the second season when he was dismissed. Verdict: SUCCESS.

Schalke: took over with them in eleventh, finished sixth. Did have a poor end to the season so I won't call it an outright success. Verdict: OKAY.

So overall, I'm not seeing what part of his managerial history really worries people?
Thanks, that's quite an impressive CV. Looks a great option if true, much happier about this rumour than Pearson.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4689 on: May 18, 2016, 08:52:59 PM »
I don't think de Matteo is big enough hard enough or good enough to sort out our shower of poosters

I wasn't aware that being six foot five and built like a shithouse was a prerequisite for being a good football manager.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4690 on: May 18, 2016, 08:55:32 PM »
I don't think de Matteo is big enough hard enough or good enough to sort out our shower of poosters
Nor do I, but I don't think anyone can. Hopefully Little and Begington's advice to Hollis was we need a complete overhaul and this has been fed to any potential buyer.

Out with the old and in with new.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4691 on: May 18, 2016, 09:00:32 PM »
Incoming managers often like to say that all the players start with a 'clean slate' and other cliches, but frankly I hope whoever comes to the Villa has more of a 'guilty until proven innocent' approach to these oxygen-thieving twerpholes.

Offline paulcomben

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4692 on: May 18, 2016, 09:04:42 PM »
He'll have to win a lot of games for me to forgive him that Cup Final winner.

Dropsy James was actually the cuplrit there.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4693 on: May 18, 2016, 09:05:53 PM »
I still blame Gregory. It was only one goal. Had we bothered attacking at any point, we might have managed to score one too.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4694 on: May 18, 2016, 09:07:26 PM »
I still blame Gregory. It was only one goal. Had we bothered attacking at any point, we might have managed to score one too.
Me to. We could of had a go at them. James was the fall guy for many, not me though.

 


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