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Offline mr underhill

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4290 on: May 08, 2016, 05:05:00 PM »
you know, that would really top out our season wouldn't it - new obscenely wealthy Chinese  owners who only had eyes for Mick Mack.

Offline themossman

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4291 on: May 08, 2016, 09:40:20 PM »
Shouldn't Lerner, as the current owner, be working his balls off to get someone in so that we don't screw up our best chance to come back up by being rudderless all summer and maybe part of next season?

Offline peter w

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4292 on: May 08, 2016, 10:08:08 PM »
I don't think Moyes will come here or go to any second division club.

Who in the EPL will be giving Moyes a gig? Watford might need a new manager come the summer, but their owners appear to prefer options from the continent. Maybe Palace if they start off poorly, but we'll see if Moyes is willing to wait.

I'm skeptical of our ability to convince him too, but I don't think it'd be because of noticeably better options elsewhre.

Celtic?

That's more or less accepting your careers over or going nowhere though. More likely to be Lambert.

Online Toronto Villa

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4293 on: May 09, 2016, 01:04:08 AM »
The more I read it will be Pearson the more I think it will be Moyes and tied to the takeover. He's the more established name of the two and would be the more attractive option for a new owner.

Offline KevinGage

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4294 on: May 09, 2016, 01:14:48 AM »
I don't think Moyes will come here or go to any second division club.

Who in the EPL will be giving Moyes a gig? Watford might need a new manager come the summer, but their owners appear to prefer options from the continent. Maybe Palace if they start off poorly, but we'll see if Moyes is willing to wait.

I'm skeptical of our ability to convince him too, but I don't think it'd be because of noticeably better options elsewhre.

Celtic?

That's more or less accepting your careers over or going nowhere though. More likely to be Lambert.

I disagree.  The league is mince but it does present a more realistic chance of CL football than he will get at most clubs in England.

A few wins against a Rangers side still adjusting to the topflight and he will be made up there.  For all his time as a manager, there is a distinct lack of silverware at present. That must gnaw away at him. Two>three years up there will give him a chance to rectify that and he'll still be high profile enough for other gigs in the future if he can make the group stages of the CL with Celtic.

It is the move that makes most sense at present.

Doesn't help that we are a graveyard for managers either.

Offline alftitimus

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4295 on: May 09, 2016, 04:21:28 AM »
I'm not sure where I posted this question, now....
'New Owners' ...'New Manager'...

But it got gobbled up with people Googling the Forbes list and Chinese Billionaires
... and coming up with the same 'names' that have had forums on other club sites wetting themselves. for a year or two.

I'm trying to see some logic, and my question is simple.

If you can help, please reply.
The Background as I followed it:

1) Nigel Pearson is 'leaked' and known to the local media as our preffered choice.
2) Press Conference last Friday, excludes him, and any announcement.
3) More "unofficial" leaks appear in various media, over the weekend, that Nigel couldn't be named because of the delicate or ongoing "TAKEOVER"
4) Silence
5) New leaks about a 'Chinese' Venture Capital outfit being the front runners.
6) Nigel Pearson drops down the bookie's lists of favourites.


That is 6 day's worth of exhaustive following.  :D

The question I Have asked, and  never got a response because of the freeding frenzy of google-users...is:

Why would Nigel Peasron be pushed back....?
Why leak his name, Mr Hollis ?

MON, came in whilst Randy was doing due diligence, 2 months earlier, Deadly appointed him with approval of a "potential" new owner.

Pearson, suddenly doesn't have that respect / support from our new "potential" new owners? After having his name bandied about by Hollis as our preffered candidate?

Newcastle and Pearson and Ashby are a match-made-in-heaven it now seems.

A COLOSSAL misplay by Hollis, or a PR 'cock-up' ?

My question ...does anyone KNOW..if Pearson as a candidate, was serious in the first place?
Did the new guys with the books, have other opinions about Pearson?
Randy didn't, 2 months before he signed on and previously endorsed MON.

I am confused.

I disregard most opinions, especially google founded.

I'm concentrating on the local bloggers and journos...who had got a tip-n-wink....then it all went silent on Pearson. As some of them have on everything else.

I read every scrap, cos I'm obsessed with us....and I just can't make sense of the "leaks about NP"... then the silence, then more "leaks about 'delicate' new owners"...then more silence about NP.

If I was him, I'd have driven from the aborted Press Conference straight upto St James Park, and signed on.

 :)

Why use 10 words, when you can use 100

 ;D

Offline Jimbo

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4296 on: May 09, 2016, 05:07:35 AM »

Offline pbavfckuwait

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4297 on: May 09, 2016, 06:26:04 AM »
If the new owners apparent have any sense about them ( if such exist), any recommendations for a new manager received from the man child and anyone he has appointed, should be rolled up into a neat paper ball and placed firmly in the bin.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4298 on: May 09, 2016, 06:56:15 AM »
I'm getting to the point where I won't believe it (the takeover) even when I see it.

Offline brian green

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4299 on: May 09, 2016, 07:35:11 AM »
I am of the same mind Mr U.  I find I can only endure the endless uncertainty that has engulfed the club for the last five years if I use the image of the ownership of the club being no more than signatures on documents.  I force myself to see the only tangible changes of the future to be the names of our opponents on the screens at the ground and the printed particulars in the match day programmes.  The owners, the manager, the players, the division we play in, if allowed to drive out normality are the road to the mad house.  They have to be a sub plot in the main drama of being a Villa fan.  This was manifested in all its pomp and glory last Saturday.

If a manager cannot look at what happened at Villa Park last Saturday afternoon, or what will happen at the Arsenal next week and think "I would like to be part of that" and likewise a potential owner, more fool them.

Offline Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4300 on: May 09, 2016, 07:48:51 AM »
I'm not sure where I posted this question, now....
'New Owners' ...'New Manager'...

But it got gobbled up with people Googling the Forbes list and Chinese Billionaires
... and coming up with the same 'names' that have had forums on other club sites wetting themselves. for a year or two.

I'm trying to see some logic, and my question is simple.

If you can help, please reply.
The Background as I followed it:

1) Nigel Pearson is 'leaked' and known to the local media as our preffered choice.
2) Press Conference last Friday, excludes him, and any announcement.
3) More "unofficial" leaks appear in various media, over the weekend, that Nigel couldn't be named because of the delicate or ongoing "TAKEOVER"
4) Silence
5) New leaks about a 'Chinese' Venture Capital outfit being the front runners.
6) Nigel Pearson drops down the bookie's lists of favourites.


That is 6 day's worth of exhaustive following.  :D

The question I Have asked, and  never got a response because of the freeding frenzy of google-users...is:

Why would Nigel Peasron be pushed back....?
Why leak his name, Mr Hollis ?

MON, came in whilst Randy was doing due diligence, 2 months earlier, Deadly appointed him with approval of a "potential" new owner.

Pearson, suddenly doesn't have that respect / support from our new "potential" new owners? After having his name bandied about by Hollis as our preffered candidate?

Newcastle and Pearson and Ashby are a match-made-in-heaven it now seems.

A COLOSSAL misplay by Hollis, or a PR 'cock-up' ?

My question ...does anyone KNOW..if Pearson as a candidate, was serious in the first place?
Did the new guys with the books, have other opinions about Pearson?
Randy didn't, 2 months before he signed on and previously endorsed MON.

I am confused.

I disregard most opinions, especially google founded.

I'm concentrating on the local bloggers and journos...who had got a tip-n-wink....then it all went silent on Pearson. As some of them have on everything else.

I read every scrap, cos I'm obsessed with us....and I just can't make sense of the "leaks about NP"... then the silence, then more "leaks about 'delicate' new owners"...then more silence about NP.

If I was him, I'd have driven from the aborted Press Conference straight upto St James Park, and signed on.

 :)

Why use 10 words, when you can use 100

 ;D



Offline Dave

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4301 on: May 09, 2016, 08:06:27 AM »
6) Nigel Pearson drops down the bookie's lists of favourites.

Nigel Pearson has odds of 4/9 with most bookmakers this morning.

Why leak his name, Mr Hollis ?

What on earth are you talking about?

Offline Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4302 on: May 09, 2016, 08:23:13 AM »
I'm reading between the lines here but I believe that we might be interested in the Greek manager Aristotle Ellipsis...

Offline Ron Manager

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4303 on: May 09, 2016, 09:25:45 AM »
The more I read it will be Pearson the more I think it will be Moyes and tied to the takeover. He's the more established name of the two and would be the more attractive option for a new owner.

Yes TV but Pearson managed Leicester and that will impress our prospective Asian owners.

Offline Gregorys Boy

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4304 on: May 09, 2016, 09:56:09 AM »
I'm actually wondering if Moyes may go back to Everton.  New owners for us and top flight football would have him for sure, but I just one isn't enough for me.

 


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