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Author Topic: Manager for next season  (Read 812800 times)

Offline ciggiesnbeer

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3975 on: April 27, 2016, 07:29:22 PM »
I cant shake the feeling that long term it would be a bad thing for the club the way he can treat players & presumably backroom staff.

Its like hiring Keane/Culverhouse/Karsa but this time with our eyes wide open. Doesnt seem that smart.

Have I missed something. What has he done to his players and backroom staff?

I thought his crimes against the human race where:

1. Swearing a fan.
2. The McArthur (joke?) incident.
3. Talking bollocks in a press meeting.
4. Sounding a bit thick.

Nope you missed nothing. Just me speculating (making stuff up) and extending his jokes/incidents/mannerisms/personality to how he behaves with the team.

Hopefully I am completely off the mark and he is a pro and very motivational. My assumption however is that managers personalities are not that radically different from their public persona.

But thanks for the correction, there have bene no stories as far as I know that he is a twat behind the scenes.


Offline clash city rocker

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3976 on: April 27, 2016, 07:33:54 PM »
Keep Black !  What as ? Nothing football related I hope.

Offline Rudy Can't Fail

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3977 on: April 27, 2016, 07:42:05 PM »
Well all his players sang his praises, I think man-management is one of his strongest points from what I've read. I do wonder why so many think he'd kick arses to the lazy barstewards we have at the moment. Strange one.

Offline Phil from the upper holte

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3978 on: April 28, 2016, 12:20:40 PM »
Just saw a link to poyet *sighs*

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3979 on: April 28, 2016, 12:28:07 PM »
Well all his players sang his praises, I think man-management is one of his strongest points from what I've read. I do wonder why so many think he'd kick arses to the lazy barstewards we have at the moment. Strange one.

Because there's an undertone of malevolence the interviews that have caught attention, plus the "FOAD" and strangle an opposition player incidents.

You're right though, all of his former players seem to speak very highly of him as a man manager. (Unless he really is a psycho and they're worried he'll turn up on their doorstep with a hammer and bag of large nails.)

Offline Witton Warrior

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3980 on: April 28, 2016, 12:56:08 PM »
I cant shake the feeling that long term it would be a bad thing for the club the way he can treat players & presumably backroom staff.

Its like hiring Keane/Culverhouse/Karsa but this time with our eyes wide open. Doesnt seem that smart.

Have I missed something. What has he done to his players and backroom staff?

I thought his crimes against the human race where:

1. Swearing a fan.
2. The McArthur (joke?) incident.
3. Talking bollocks in a press meeting.
4. Sounding a bit thick.

Nope you missed nothing. Just me speculating (making stuff up) and extending his jokes/incidents/mannerisms/personality to how he behaves with the team.

Hopefully I am completely off the mark and he is a pro and very motivational. My assumption however is that managers personalities are not that radically different from their public persona.

But thanks for the correction, there have bene no stories as far as I know that he is a twat behind the scenes.



I think a lot of us are having flashbacks to insane PE teachers in our past ;-)

Offline peter w

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3981 on: April 28, 2016, 01:00:44 PM »
I just shuddered as I saw a report saying Pearson has held talks and will likely keep Black as his Assistant..... Then I realised it was Moxley.

I don't see a massive problem with keeping Black on as assistant
he's ok until it comes to picking the team lineup, which he wont have to do if he's not the manager
he has been hopeless in that respect, but apart from that I think he's done alright

hasn't he ?

So if we ignore the teams that he picks, what would you class as his successes in the role so far?

Dumping players that have crossed a disciplinary line. Working with players that are unmotivated and lacking in ability. keeping an air of professionalism about him. Trying to do the best for Aston Villa. But I recognise that many people seem to think that he is doing his best to unhinge us by picking all those players that we're doing brilliantly under a fleet of foot excelling Aston Villa, but given the circumstances I think he's doing okay to keep.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3982 on: April 28, 2016, 01:31:48 PM »
I just shuddered as I saw a report saying Pearson has held talks and will likely keep Black as his Assistant..... Then I realised it was Moxley.

I don't see a massive problem with keeping Black on as assistant
he's ok until it comes to picking the team lineup, which he wont have to do if he's not the manager
he has been hopeless in that respect, but apart from that I think he's done alright

hasn't he ?

So if we ignore the teams that he picks, what would you class as his successes in the role so far?

Dumping players that have crossed a disciplinary line. Working with players that are unmotivated and lacking in ability. keeping an air of professionalism about him. Trying to do the best for Aston Villa.

Which of those points do you feel Remi Garde was failing at?

Offline badminton

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3983 on: April 28, 2016, 01:34:13 PM »
Lambert looks like he will be available. Fits the criteria  ;)

Offline cdward

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3984 on: April 28, 2016, 01:37:02 PM »
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36158451 - Blackburn Rovers: Paul Lambert to leave Championship club at the end of the season.


Return of TSMII? While Lerner is still around anything is possible

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3985 on: April 28, 2016, 01:39:20 PM »
What worries me is that, as soon as the season ends, there'll be a Premier League sacking and the whole merry-go-round of managers will kick off and I can see people like Pearson getting snapped up. Meanwhile, we'll still be hawking ourselves around to the highest bidder, unable to convince any manager to join us until we have an owner with a transfer budget. The longer that goes on, the closer to next season kicking off ( in the first weekend in August) and we're up shit creek again with no time to assess the squad, just like when Venglos joined us or when O'Neill left us.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2016, 01:40:54 PM by Chico Hamilton III »

Offline peter w

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3986 on: April 28, 2016, 01:55:29 PM »
I just shuddered as I saw a report saying Pearson has held talks and will likely keep Black as his Assistant..... Then I realised it was Moxley.

I don't see a massive problem with keeping Black on as assistant
he's ok until it comes to picking the team lineup, which he wont have to do if he's not the manager
he has been hopeless in that respect, but apart from that I think he's done alright

hasn't he ?

So if we ignore the teams that he picks, what would you class as his successes in the role so far?

Dumping players that have crossed a disciplinary line. Working with players that are unmotivated and lacking in ability. keeping an air of professionalism about him. Trying to do the best for Aston Villa.

Which of those points do you feel Remi Garde was failing at?

After january just about every one of them.

Offline chrisw1

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3987 on: April 28, 2016, 01:57:47 PM »
What worries me is that, as soon as the season ends, there'll be a Premier League sacking and the whole merry-go-round of managers will kick off and I can see people like Pearson getting snapped up. Meanwhile, we'll still be hawking ourselves around to the highest bidder, unable to convince any manager to join us until we have an owner with a transfer budget. The longer that goes on, the closer to next season kicking off ( in the first weekend in August) and we're up shit creek again with no time to assess the squad, just like when Venglos joined us or when O'Neill left us.
This is my worry too.  We've had plenty of time to sort it out if it's an out of work manager.  The only excuse would be if we're tapping up Dyche or someone else in a job.

Offline peter w

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3988 on: April 28, 2016, 01:59:08 PM »
I think if we have Pearson lined-up he'll be our manager it doesn't matter what happens at the end of the season.

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3989 on: April 28, 2016, 02:02:58 PM »
I think if we have Pearson lined-up he'll be our manager it doesn't matter what happens at the end of the season.

So Pearson would be happy to join us without knowing who he'll be working for or how much he'll have to spend? I know he's barmy, but he's not totally thick

 


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