Manager for next season

[SheffieldVillain]

I'm surprised as well that you mentioned Hutton. For all his shortcomings he ain't no trouble causer in my opinion

I didn't say he was. I said 'troublemaker or at the very least not performed'.

His shortcomings and poor performances are the reason we shouldn't be paying him his exorbitant wages next season.

[Concrete John]

lets just get pearson in now , so he can kick these wasters out of the club

He can't though, until the season is over. So why rush?

a new manager comes in everything starts from scratch, every player starts on a level playing field equal to one another
The new manager says what went on before is irelavent and everyone has been given another chance to prove to him they can force there way into the team

All sounds good, that's what happens with every new manager

I would rather him make his mind up to see what wastes of space we have in the next few games rather than doing it when it matters in the first few matches of a new season,
Because as we all know, many managers have tried with some of them to no avail, it's not going to change the new man needs to see that sooner rather than later

That's why it would be best to get a new man now instead of experimenting with Richardson and Gabby etc next season,
if the new man is at another club that's fair enough, but it would be pretty stupid in my view if it's Pearson/Moyes or someone else out of work to wait any longer now we are definitely down

I wouldn't.

I'm sick of new managers making their minds up on our squad where it's clear to everyone they are 85% arseholes who manage to put in a good couple of performances at the start of each managerial reign.

Whichever manager comes in, it needs to be on the understanding from the board that the senior pros who have caused problems this season or at the very least not performed are on their bike regardless - N'Zogbia, Agbonlahor, Hutton, Lescott, Richards, Guzan, Richardson. That much should be non-negotiable and is about 300k worth of weekly wages for them to rebuild with.

There's no way back for those mentioned with the fans, they are a symbol of this appalling squad and have to be got rid of. No making up of the new manager's mind to be done.

I can't help the feeling we'll be paying some of that £300k regardless for a while yet.  I have no qualms about kicking them out, but let's not confuse that with being rid of their financial burden.

[john e]

lets just get pearson in now , so he can kick these wasters out of the club

He can't though, until the season is over. So why rush?

a new manager comes in everything starts from scratch, every player starts on a level playing field equal to one another
The new manager says what went on before is irelavent and everyone has been given another chance to prove to him they can force there way into the team

All sounds good, that's what happens with every new manager

I would rather him make his mind up to see what wastes of space we have in the next few games rather than doing it when it matters in the first few matches of a new season,
Because as we all know, many managers have tried with some of them to no avail, it's not going to change the new man needs to see that sooner rather than later

That's why it would be best to get a new man now instead of experimenting with Richardson and Gabby etc next season,
if the new man is at another club that's fair enough, but it would be pretty stupid in my view if it's Pearson/Moyes or someone else out of work to wait any longer now we are definitely down

I wouldn't.

I'm sick of new managers making their minds up on our squad where it's clear to everyone they are 85% arseholes who manage to put in a good couple of performances at the start of each managerial reign.

Whichever manager comes in, it needs to be on the understanding from the board that the senior pros who have caused problems this season or at the very least not performed are on their bike regardless - N'Zogbia, Agbonlahor, Hutton, Lescott, Richards, Guzan, Richardson. That much should be non-negotiable and is about 300k worth of weekly wages for them to rebuild with.

There's no way back for those mentioned with the fans, they are a symbol of this appalling squad and have to be got rid of. No making up of the new manager's mind to be done.

Hutton ?

Absolutely yes. How many years has he been here? How successful has he been? Running around a lot and kicking people occasionally doesn't make up for the number of goals he's cost us.

I wouldn't put him, Guzan or Richardson into the 'arsehole / troublemaker' category, but they very definitely go into the 'not peforrmed' category.

So going back to your earlier point, you would wait till the end of the season even if the man we want is currently available
Then tell him this is the squad but your not making any decisions on players for now, we are going to tell you who we are going to get rid of because we know them better than you,

good luck with getting any sort of manager to work with that sort of interference

[Dave]

lets just get pearson in now , so he can kick these wasters out of the club

He can't though, until the season is over. So why rush?

a new manager comes in everything starts from scratch, every player starts on a level playing field equal to one another
The new manager says what went on before is irelavent and everyone has been given another chance to prove to him they can force there way into the team

All sounds good, that's what happens with every new manager

I would rather him make his mind up to see what wastes of space we have in the next few games rather than doing it when it matters in the first few matches of a new season,
Because as we all know, many managers have tried with some of them to no avail, it's not going to change the new man needs to see that sooner rather than later

That's why it would be best to get a new man now instead of experimenting with Richardson and Gabby etc next season,
if the new man is at another club that's fair enough, but it would be pretty stupid in my view if it's Pearson/Moyes or someone else out of work to wait any longer now we are definitely down

I wouldn't.

I'm sick of new managers making their minds up on our squad where it's clear to everyone they are 85% arseholes who manage to put in a good couple of performances at the start of each managerial reign.

Whichever manager comes in, it needs to be on the understanding from the board that the senior pros who have caused problems this season or at the very least not performed are on their bike regardless - N'Zogbia, Agbonlahor, Hutton, Lescott, Richards, Guzan, Richardson. That much should be non-negotiable and is about 300k worth of weekly wages for them to rebuild with.

There's no way back for those mentioned with the fans, they are a symbol of this appalling squad and have to be got rid of. No making up of the new manager's mind to be done.

I can't help the feeling we'll be paying some of that £300k regardless for a while yet.  I have no qualms about kicking them out, but let's not confuse that with being rid of their financial burden.

N'Zogbia and Richardson are off. There's bound to be someone stupid who will take Richards.

I expect that Gabby, Hutton and Lescott will all be in our Championship squad.

Guzan is probably a flip of a coin.

[SheffieldVillain]

So going back to your earlier point, you would wait till the end of the season even if the man we want is currently available
Then tell him this is the squad but your not making any decisions on players for now, we are going to tell you who we are going to get rid of because we know them better than you,

good luck with getting any sort of manager to work with that sort of interference

That's not what I said.

I said there is no rush to make an appointment.  There is nothing to be learnt in the next five games that necessitates having someone in this week.

We should consider all options, including those that might not be available now but could be at the end of the season.

And I think you'll find that any manager with a working brain cell will understand that when a club is relegated, the higher earners will be leaving. In this case, that happily chimes with the fact that our higher earners are also our biggest problems.

[john e]

So going back to your earlier point, you would wait till the end of the season even if the man we want is currently available
Then tell him this is the squad but your not making any decisions on players for now, we are going to tell you who we are going to get rid of because we know them better than you,

good luck with getting any sort of manager to work with that sort of interference

That's not what I said.

I said there is no rush to make an appointment.  There is nothing to be learnt in the next five games that necessitates having someone in this week.

We should consider all options, including those that might not be available now but could be at the end of the season.

And I think you'll find that any manager with a working brain cell will understand that when a club is relegated, the higher earners will be leaving. In this case, that happily chimes with the fact that our higher earners are also our biggest problems.

Sorry mate but it is what you said
i can only reply to what you wrote, and what you said is that that whatever manager comes in it must be on the CLEAR UNDERSTANDING that all the players the board don't fancy will be as you put it 'on their bike regardless'

and all I'm saying to be clear, is that if our new man is available now we should get him in so he will have more time to sort out the wheat from the chaff

[SheffieldVillain]

So going back to your earlier point, you would wait till the end of the season even if the man we want is currently available
Then tell him this is the squad but your not making any decisions on players for now, we are going to tell you who we are going to get rid of because we know them better than you,

good luck with getting any sort of manager to work with that sort of interference

That's not what I said.

I said there is no rush to make an appointment.  There is nothing to be learnt in the next five games that necessitates having someone in this week.

We should consider all options, including those that might not be available now but could be at the end of the season.

And I think you'll find that any manager with a working brain cell will understand that when a club is relegated, the higher earners will be leaving. In this case, that happily chimes with the fact that our higher earners are also our biggest problems.

Sorry mate but it is what you said
i can only reply to what you wrote, and what you said is that that whatever manager comes in it must be on the CLEAR UNDERSTANDING that all the players the board don't fancy will be as you put it 'on their bike regardless'

and all I'm saying to be clear, is that if our new man is available now we should get him in so he will have more time to sort out the wheat from the chaff

No, it's not.

For example you paraphrased me as as saying 'you would wait till the end of the season even if the man we want is currently available'.
What I actually said in response to someone saying Pearson should be brought in to kick the wasters out now was this 'He can't, until the season is over. So why rush?'

Yours - surmising we have decided on an appointment.
Mine - saying we should take time in deciding on an appointment not rush into one now.

[leylandalbion]

lets just get pearson in now , so he can kick these wasters out of the club

He can't though, until the season is over. So why rush?

a new manager comes in everything starts from scratch, every player starts on a level playing field equal to one another
The new manager says what went on before is irelavent and everyone has been given another chance to prove to him they can force there way into the team

All sounds good, that's what happens with every new manager

I would rather him make his mind up to see what wastes of space we have in the next few games rather than doing it when it matters in the first few matches of a new season,
Because as we all know, many managers have tried with some of them to no avail, it's not going to change the new man needs to see that sooner rather than later

That's why it would be best to get a new man now instead of experimenting with Richardson and Gabby etc next season,
if the new man is at another club that's fair enough, but it would be pretty stupid in my view if it's Pearson/Moyes or someone else out of work to wait any longer now we are definitely down

I wouldn't.

I'm sick of new managers making their minds up on our squad where it's clear to everyone they are 85% arseholes who manage to put in a good couple of performances at the start of each managerial reign.

Whichever manager comes in, it needs to be on the understanding from the board that the senior pros who have caused problems this season or at the very least not performed are on their bike regardless - N'Zogbia, Agbonlahor, Hutton, Lescott, Richards, Guzan, Richardson. That much should be non-negotiable and is about 300k worth of weekly wages for them to rebuild with.

There's no way back for those mentioned with the fans, they are a symbol of this appalling squad and have to be got rid of. No making up of the new manager's mind to be done.

I can't help the feeling we'll be paying some of that £300k regardless for a while yet.  I have no qualms about kicking them out, but let's not confuse that with being rid of their financial burden.

N'Zogbia and Richardson are off. There's bound to be someone stupid who will take Richards.

I expect that Gabby, Hutton and Lescott will all be in our Championship squad.

Guzan is probably a flip of a coin.

He will drop the coin

[brian green]

If Guzan stays he will be playing LB.  There will be no goal keeping ability left in him by August.

[Ian.]

If Guzan stays he will be playing LB.  There will be no goal keeping ability left in him by August.

Another bloody full back who can't kick the ball in the right direction. Perfect.

[Concrete John]

lets just get pearson in now , so he can kick these wasters out of the club

He can't though, until the season is over. So why rush?

a new manager comes in everything starts from scratch, every player starts on a level playing field equal to one another
The new manager says what went on before is irelavent and everyone has been given another chance to prove to him they can force there way into the team

All sounds good, that's what happens with every new manager

I would rather him make his mind up to see what wastes of space we have in the next few games rather than doing it when it matters in the first few matches of a new season,
Because as we all know, many managers have tried with some of them to no avail, it's not going to change the new man needs to see that sooner rather than later

That's why it would be best to get a new man now instead of experimenting with Richardson and Gabby etc next season,
if the new man is at another club that's fair enough, but it would be pretty stupid in my view if it's Pearson/Moyes or someone else out of work to wait any longer now we are definitely down

I wouldn't.

I'm sick of new managers making their minds up on our squad where it's clear to everyone they are 85% arseholes who manage to put in a good couple of performances at the start of each managerial reign.

Whichever manager comes in, it needs to be on the understanding from the board that the senior pros who have caused problems this season or at the very least not performed are on their bike regardless - N'Zogbia, Agbonlahor, Hutton, Lescott, Richards, Guzan, Richardson. That much should be non-negotiable and is about 300k worth of weekly wages for them to rebuild with.

There's no way back for those mentioned with the fans, they are a symbol of this appalling squad and have to be got rid of. No making up of the new manager's mind to be done.

I can't help the feeling we'll be paying some of that £300k regardless for a while yet.  I have no qualms about kicking them out, but let's not confuse that with being rid of their financial burden.

N'Zogbia and Richardson are off. There's bound to be someone stupid who will take Richards.

I expect that Gabby, Hutton and Lescott will all be in our Championship squad.

Guzan is probably a flip of a coin.

Is Richardson out of contract?  Bonus if he is, but those that go will likely receive pay offs or be on loan where we end up still paying them.  They've been so bad clubs will know we want rid, making our negotiating point weaker.  Just can't see many where the buying club will pay a fee and pay them what we are.

Makes me sick.

[Matt C]

Yes - Richardson & N'Zogbia both out of contract.

Try to hold back your tears.

[clash city rocker]

NZ has been a right success for us considering the money he has cost us. Fuckin criminal really. The fucker should be done for fraud.

[nigel]

Might be an old story, but, Ruud Gullet has thrown his hat into the ring now

[tomd2103]

If Guzan stays he will be playing LB.  There will be no goal keeping ability left in him by August.

I can honestly see him going back to the MLS.