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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3300 on: April 16, 2016, 12:44:18 PM »
My biggest reservation about Pearson is that he can be divisive and more than anything we need unity.

Dave, but was he divisive with his players? For me that's a bigger issue than if he creates division with the supporters.

I've always believed that to be successful you have to have everyone on the same side. That more than anything was the feeling that ran through our last second division promotion.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3301 on: April 16, 2016, 12:47:11 PM »
My biggest reservation about Pearson is that he can be divisive and more than anything we need unity.

Dave, but was he divisive with his players? For me that's a bigger issue than if he creates division with the supporters.

I've always believed that to be successful you have to have everyone on the same side. That more than anything was the feeling that ran through our last second division promotion.



In which case the attitude of the owner and funds provider will be equally as important.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3302 on: April 16, 2016, 12:54:21 PM »
My reservation is that Pearson is an unhinged bully and by accepting his appointment you are willing to forsake principles.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2016, 01:07:59 PM by Tayls_7 »

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3303 on: April 16, 2016, 12:55:14 PM »
My biggest reservation about Pearson is that he can be divisive and more than anything we need unity.

Dave, but was he divisive with his players? For me that's a bigger issue than if he creates division with the supporters.

I've always believed that to be successful you have to have everyone on the same side. That more than anything was the feeling that ran through our last second division promotion.

Not disagreeing but in my opinion, if he gets the squad working together and for the good of the club, results will follow and fans will get on board. We are just so disenchanted with all of the nonsense that not only has affected how we operate as a club but ultimately how it has detracted from what we exist to do; to win games and have fun. It's not fun anymore. If the board do their thing and Pearson mobilizes a winning side that works hard for each other he will bring the supporters along with him. But it won't happen at the same time and it won't happen immediately . There's a lot of work and healing ahead of us.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3304 on: April 16, 2016, 01:05:58 PM »
Can anyone tell me what makes Pearson's record any better than Lambert's prior to him getting the job?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3305 on: April 16, 2016, 01:07:49 PM »
The mandate is to get us promoted back to the Premier League and quick, for that reason the more I think about it the more I think he's the best man for the job.
His Leicester were unstoppable in their promotion season, they walked it.

Let's hope he does it a bit quicker then than the four years it took him with Leicester. Three of which were when they were the richest club in the league.

It was 2 and a half-seasons. The first of which (2011-12) he joined roughly half way through the season. The second season (2012-13) Leicester lost in the play-offs and missed a last-minute penalty which would have took them through to the final. And the third season (2013-14) they won the Championship. Not quite 3 out of 4 barren years.

And you're not counting 2009/10 because...?

And adding "roughly" still doesn't make November anything like halfway through the season.

because that was in his first spell and not his second spell.

Okay, a third of the season. I was 6 weeks out. That's roughly enough.

Why does which "spell" it was matter? I just said that he had four seasons in the Championship, failing to get them promoted for the first three.

Which is correct.

Fair enough But that is then a little harsh and misleading. Wasn't his first season with Leicester in League One? So your first criticism is that he failed to take Leicester to back-to-back promotions? In his first season in the Championship his team lost on pens in the play-offs.

So in his 3 full seasons as Leicester manager in the Championship he lost in the play-offs twice, once on penalties and once because of a last minute penalty, and the other season Leicester were Champions. The season where he was recruited after something like 17 games Leicester were up and down.

So on his time at Leicester I don't see the failure that you're seeing.

I'm not seeing failure and nowhere have I said so. I'm seeing a record bang in line with all the other managers who are going to spend their careers hanging around the top ten in the Championship and bottom six of the Premier League. Him, Bruce, McCarthy, Hughton, Warnock etc. They've all got high-points that they can show and a whole lot of "if only that had gone in then it might all have been different".

What I'm not seeing is the record of "the only man who knows what we need to get out of the Championship" at some have suggested. If we hire Pearson then it's not a mouth-open, "how could they possibly be so stupid" decision like the Sherwood one was. It's a roll of the dice of the managers who are likely to be around the Championship play-off places. It also doesn't really sit well with me that a lot of the justification for his appointment from some quarters seems to more about taking revenge on our current team rather than whether he's actually likely to make us any good or not.

Incidentally, as for holding "failing to get back-to-back promotions" against him, we had a rubbish manager 15 months ago who did manage to get back-to-back promotions at around the same time. So Pearson's achievements are unequivocally less impressive than the bloke who we were desperate to be rid of for much of his time with us.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3306 on: April 16, 2016, 01:08:25 PM »
Can anyone tell me what makes Pearson's record any better than Lambert's prior to him getting the job?

I suppose the difference is that he'd be taking over a team in the Championship and not the PL.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3307 on: April 16, 2016, 01:09:13 PM »
My biggest reservation about Pearson is that he can be divisive and more than anything we need unity.

Dave, but was he divisive with his players? For me that's a bigger issue than if he creates division with the supporters.

I've always believed that to be successful you have to have everyone on the same side. That more than anything was the feeling that ran through our last second division promotion.

Not disagreeing but in my opinion, if he gets the squad working together and for the good of the club, results will follow and fans will get on board. We are just so disenchanted with all of the nonsense that not only has affected how we operate as a club but ultimately how it has detracted from what we exist to do; to win games and have fun. It's not fun anymore. If the board do their thing and Pearson mobilizes a winning side that works hard for each other he will bring the supporters along with him. But it won't happen at the same time and it won't happen immediately . There's a lot of work and healing ahead of us.

I see all that but I do wonder what would happen if we had the same sort of start Sir Graham's team had - when we were bottom three after three games. He could get round it because everyone was behind him and he had the sort of backing Pearson wouldn't get.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3308 on: April 16, 2016, 01:13:57 PM »
I think whoever comes in can unify the fans very quickly next season with 2-3 easy moves. Getting shut of 3-4 players that the fans have grown to despise will help. Winning a couple of games early doors and having the side on the pitch show some fight and spirit.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3309 on: April 16, 2016, 01:14:47 PM »
And starting the season off with a thumping 4-0 victory at home.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3310 on: April 16, 2016, 01:43:49 PM »
It's the type of appointment Olbiyun or Hull would make, so for that reason, I'm out.

I know our status has taken a battering over the past few years, but we can do better than that surely.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3311 on: April 16, 2016, 01:47:01 PM »
I was talking to a colleague yesterday - a Boggie - who raved about Pearson during his time as caretaker there. Then again, he rates Tiny Penis so I'm not filled with joy about his opinion.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3312 on: April 16, 2016, 01:54:15 PM »
May have been posted already ...
WinnerSports website claims the deal is done with Big Bad Nige, with Chris Powell set to be his Coach.


Aston Villa are set to appoint former Leicester City boss Nigel Pearson as their new manager
Aston Villa’s current Premier League campaign can be construed as nothing short of an absolute debacle and it seems all but certain that the Villans will be suffering the ignominy of relegation within the next few weeks.Given their current state, many are not optimistic that Villa will immediately be able to win promotion back into the Premier League and the upcoming years could be tough for the famous English club. That being said, Villa’s size and history means that a number of high profile managers are keen on taking up the challenge at Villa Park next season and it will be imperative that the club hierarchy get the next appointment spot on following struggles under Alex McLeish, Gerard Houllier, Paul Lambert, Tim Sherwood and Remi Garde. Among the numerous names linked with the post at Villa, it can now be revealed that the owners have identified former Leicester City boss Nigel Pearson as the ideal candidate to take over the reins in the summer.Pearson left Leicester under acrimonious circumstances due to the actions of his son but the 52-year old remains one of the most highly regarded managers around in England at the moment.After a yearlong sabbatical, Pearson is now ready to return to management and the Leicester boss is set to be placed in the hot seat at Villa Park – with Chris Powell being installed as his number two.
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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3313 on: April 16, 2016, 01:55:47 PM »
May have been posted already ...
This website claims the deal is done with Big Bad Nige, with Chris Powell set to be his Coach.
Your link doesn't work

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3314 on: April 16, 2016, 01:58:37 PM »
And if they're mentioning Powell as number 2, they are only repeating what has been in the more respectable papers (which makes me think there is something in this, sadly).

 


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