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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3240 on: April 16, 2016, 07:21:42 AM »
The mandate is to get us promoted back to the Premier League and quick, for that reason the more I think about it the more I think he's the best man for the job.
His Leicester were unstoppable in their promotion season, they walked it.

Let's hope he does it a bit quicker then than the four years it took him with Leicester. Three of which were when they were the richest club in the league.

It was 2 and a half-seasons. The first of which (2011-12) he joined roughly half way through the season. The second season (2012-13) Leicester lost in the play-offs and missed a last-minute penalty which would have took them through to the final. And the third season (2013-14) they won the Championship. Not quite 3 out of 4 barren years.

And you're not counting 2009/10 because...?

And adding "roughly" still doesn't make November anything like halfway through the season.

because that was in his first spell and not his second spell.

Okay, a third of the season. I was 6 weeks out. That's roughly enough.

Why does which "spell" it was matter? I just said that he had four seasons in the Championship, failing to get them promoted for the first three.

Which is correct.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3241 on: April 16, 2016, 07:26:52 AM »
The mandate is to get us promoted back to the Premier League and quick, for that reason the more I think about it the more I think he's the best man for the job.
His Leicester were unstoppable in their promotion season, they walked it.

Let's hope he does it a bit quicker then than the four years it took him with Leicester. Three of which were when they were the richest club in the league.

It was 2 and a half-seasons. The first of which (2011-12) he joined roughly half way through the season. The second season (2012-13) Leicester lost in the play-offs and missed a last-minute penalty which would have took them through to the final. And the third season (2013-14) they won the Championship. Not quite 3 out of 4 barren years.

And you're not counting 2009/10 because...?

And adding "roughly" still doesn't make November anything like halfway through the season.

because that was in his first spell and not his second spell.

Okay, a third of the season. I was 6 weeks out. That's roughly enough.

Why does which "spell" it was matter? I just said that he had four seasons in the Championship with them, failing to get them promoted for the first three.

Which is correct.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3242 on: April 16, 2016, 07:55:07 AM »
His record seems good to me.

Keeps Carlisle up in the most dramatic of fashions.

In his next job he does likewise with Southampton.

He gets Leicester promoted as Champions of the Third Division in his first season and finishes 5th in their first season back in the Championship. He is effectively forced out by Mandaric.

Finishes 11th with Hull, but lays ground work there so that they're in the play offs when he leaves.

Takes over at Leicester part way through and finishes 9th. They miss out in the play off semi finals the following year in very exciting fashion, before blowing the league away the next and keeping Leicester in the league the year after

Yes that was on the basis of a good run but they were a million times more competitive than we were. Anyone who was there for the 1-0 defeat on 10th Jan 2015 wouldn't have complained the result as being unfair if they'd put 6 past us. Prior to their up turn they'd lost by the odd goal and got good points at places like Goodison.

I think he's got a good record myself.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3243 on: April 16, 2016, 08:17:21 AM »
The season Leicester missed out on the playoffs, as Ads mentions above, I watched a short documentary on them and I must admit Pearson came over as quite calm and collected but mainly focused on the task in hand.

It may have only been a small programme on sky but they showed you around the club and spoke to some of the players but Pearson was in the spotlight for quite a bit of the programme and he showed the cameras around the training ground and his office etc and talked about what the plan was and where Leicester wanted to be the following season (not in the playoffs but promoted as champions) he also spoke about reducing the squad size to a more manageable amount of players. He must have done what he needed to do as they pissed the division the following season and came up as champions.

I haven't voted for him, I would like Moyes, but if it's him over a Bruce/McCarthy type then I would have him.

The concern is at Leicester he had his own back room staff, Sherwood never got his own team, well Chris Ramsey anyway, and neither did Garde. I'm not saying not having your chosen assistants with you equals immediate failure but if you look back at MON and Houliier they at least had there own coaching teams in place when managing us and they gave us the last decent leagues finishes the club has had.

I think if you want a manger then he needs his own coaching team to come too, it's a package these days not just about one man.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3244 on: April 16, 2016, 08:20:14 AM »
I would like to think that the pain will start to subside after today but the impression emanating from the boardroom seems to be one of taking whatever time it takes.  That in turn carries the risk of there not being sufficient time in the close season to address our systemic failings.  That implies a less than electrifying start to next season and to quote another poster it will all kick off again in the crowd if we are held to 0-0 at home to Burton Albion.
Bearing all that in mind and my overwhelming wish to be entertained at Villa Park rather than angered I can go with Pearson because the shock and awe of him walking into the dressing room will be instant.
Will we get Pearson though?  Bearing in mind the personalities of the board a Hodgson type appointment looks on the cards.  A less French Remi Garde is my bet.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3245 on: April 16, 2016, 08:23:05 AM »
Who do you think the board are thinking of Brian? I do think if Roy wasn't in a job then he would be the number 1 contender for it.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3246 on: April 16, 2016, 08:33:41 AM »
Who do you think the board are thinking of Brian? I do think if Roy wasn't in a job then he would be the number 1 contender for it.

Could easily happen after the Euros...

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3247 on: April 16, 2016, 08:37:38 AM »
The season Leicester missed out on the playoffs, as Ads mentions above, I watched a short documentary on them and I must admit Pearson came over as quite calm and collected but mainly focused on the task in hand.

It may have only been a small programme on sky but they showed you around the club and spoke to some of the players but Pearson was in the spotlight for quite a bit of the programme and he showed the cameras around the training ground and his office etc and talked about what the plan was and where Leicester wanted to be the following season (not in the playoffs but promoted as champions) he also spoke about reducing the squad size to a more manageable amount of players. He must have done what he needed to do as they pissed the division the following season and came up as champions.

I haven't voted for him, I would like Moyes, but if it's him over a Bruce/McCarthy type then I would have him.

The concern is at Leicester he had his own back room staff, Sherwood never got his own team, well Chris Ramsey anyway, and neither did Garde. I'm not saying not having your chosen assistants with you equals immediate failure but if you look back at MON and Houliier they at least had there own coaching teams in place when managing us and they gave us the last decent leagues finishes the club has had.

I think if you want a manger then he needs his own coaching team to come too, it's a package these days not just about one man.


A manager does need to have his own coaches but they do not necessarily always have to be the same people from previous jobs. As long as it is men that he trusts rather than having them imposed on him then I don't see an issue.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3248 on: April 16, 2016, 08:51:01 AM »
What I think will happen as opposed to what I want to happen?

Moyes remains my preferred choice with Pearson as a long overdue laxative as an alternative.  What I think will happen is Eric Black going through the role play until after the Euros when it will be Hodgson or Southgate at which point I shall decide whether I am going to buy just one ST for me or four for my sons, grandson and me.  The ball is very much in the board's court.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3249 on: April 16, 2016, 08:52:29 AM »
we cant kick all the players out the club , or sell all of them , yes we need a good clear out , but sadly a large part of this seasons squad will  still be with us next season , I believe Nigel is the best  man to sort them out and get the best out of them and the one capable of getting us back in the prem at the first attempt
" we can't kick all the players out ..." I bet we'll end up offloading 10 or so of the current squad.
"I believe Nigel..." You're not his agent, are you?!

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3250 on: April 16, 2016, 08:58:57 AM »
If it's not Moyes, then I want Pearson.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3251 on: April 16, 2016, 09:00:43 AM »
What I think will happen as opposed to what I want to happen?

Moyes remains my preferred choice with Pearson as a long overdue laxative as an alternative.  What I think will happen is Eric Black going through the role play until after the Euros when it will be Hodgson or Southgate at which point I shall decide whether I am going to buy just one ST for me or four for my sons, grandson and me.  The ball is very much in the board's court.
my intuition tells me that an appointment will be made well before that; perhaps even in the next three or so weeks. My reasoning? - if Sir Brian is indeed leaving his temporary post as Board advisor at the end of the season I think he'd only do so with a new manager in role.

Given all that I've read and heard, my main concern with Pearson is why he has not been in a job for the last 9-10 months. If he is as good as his advocates say, he'd have surely been swept up by a PL or Championship club before now ....

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3252 on: April 16, 2016, 09:04:04 AM »
What I think will happen as opposed to what I want to happen?

Moyes remains my preferred choice with Pearson as a long overdue laxative as an alternative.  What I think will happen is Eric Black going through the role play until after the Euros when it will be Hodgson or Southgate at which point I shall decide whether I am going to buy just one ST for me or four for my sons, grandson and me.  The ball is very much in the board's court.

That is the worry, that we dither. However, after managing England I cannot see Hodgson having much interest in managing in the Championship.

My slight hope is based on the thought that so far Hollis has been fairly bold and decisive in his decision making and we see that is mirrored when it comes to finding a manager.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3253 on: April 16, 2016, 09:18:30 AM »
Is Chris Hughton an option? If Brighton don't go up, wouldn't he jump at the chance if managing us? How would people feel about him?

His main advantage over Pearson is that he's managed (sucessfully) at a much bigger club than Pearson has. In fact one in an almost identical situation to the one we find ourselves in. He could cope with the pressure of being at a club that doesn't belong down there.

Plus he doesn't come with the same, well let's be polite and call it, 'baggage'. In fact, he seems like a man I would be proud to have manage us.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3254 on: April 16, 2016, 09:19:58 AM »
Get the inevitable out the way this weekend and then it's a good time for a manager to come in - he's got a bonus mini pre-season to evaluate and then we can get a fast start in the summer. We can't afford to be dicking about until July.

It's a tough one for them. Reading black's comments about player anarchy you wonder if they'd rather avoid exposing the new guy to all that. But then they might miss out on a preferred target.

 


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