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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3210 on: April 15, 2016, 02:03:07 PM »
I have seen comments regarding Shakespeare and Walsh as the reason for Pearsons relative success, but surely it is the manager that counts.
Ferguson and Mourinho have both had numerous different assistant managers, and coaches and it never affected their success rate.

Didn't Ferguson say that he thought Quieroz leaving was the main factor for their relative decline in the mid-2000s?

But then he rebuilt the club again with others around him. Ferguson has had a number of coaches and 7 different assistants over his career, and off course good ones make a difference. But like in many jobs good junior employees with ambition want to better themselves and they move on, so the person at the top needs to adapt and find good replacements.

Well yes, but that's not the same as saying that having different coaches didn't affect their success rate.

It did affect it when the ones who weren't as good were brought in.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3211 on: April 15, 2016, 02:03:58 PM »
I was starting to warm to the idea of Pearson, but then I just watched his 'ostrich' press conference again, and I don't want that arsehole anywhere near our club.

You know I did the same thing last night. I had started to accept the idea, soften to it, try and find the positives. Then watched that press conference and he just exudes utter, utter arrogance.

It's that combined with his touchline assault that bother me about his character. My biggest concern is that his Championship record is hardly remarkable, yes he got Leicester promoted eventually but as others have highlighted that was in amongst a number of seasons without much success. Also if his backroom team were a key part of his success in getting the likes of Kane, Mahrez, Vardy into Leicester then without those won't we just be in the same situation we've been in the past. We hire and manager and then don't have the people behind them who actually helped them achieve any success that they had.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3212 on: April 15, 2016, 02:09:56 PM »
I was starting to warm to the idea of Pearson, but then I just watched his 'ostrich' press conference again, and I don't want that arsehole anywhere near our club.
yeah i watched it again too and pissed myself laughing , It was brilliant , I am gonna be so gutted now if its not Nigel
I'm with you Conman, and I really don't understand why people are worried after seeing that!

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3213 on: April 15, 2016, 02:11:33 PM »
Part of me thinks that although Walsh and Shakespeare are rightly getting a lot of credit for their Leicester work, I think Pearson will recognise their contribution and look to fill those roles which he clearly can't do himself at Villa. Mahrez and Vardy were bought to the club under Pearson so he obviously has an idea of the kind of player he wants. Whether he can get a tune out of them is the $64,000 question.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3214 on: April 15, 2016, 02:12:32 PM »
As for his back room staff, he has already worked with Chris Powell apparently so it's not as if they'll be thrown together in a Lambert/Keane type way.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3215 on: April 15, 2016, 02:26:55 PM »
I was starting to warm to the idea of Pearson, but then I just watched his 'ostrich' press conference again, and I don't want that arsehole anywhere near our club.

You know I did the same thing last night. I had started to accept the idea, soften to it, try and find the positives. Then watched that press conference and he just exudes utter, utter arrogance.

My guess is Pearson wants to be thought of as a little eccentric/quirky - like Mourinho or Cantona. Unfortunately, he's a little thick and a bit nasty with it.

The biggest problem with Pearson is probably the journalists - they were just getting warmed up with him. Knives will be out.

I'm convinced that the monosyllabic, passive aggressive press conferences are because he's trying to abide by the quote often attributed to either Abraham Lincoln or Mark Twain.*

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

*The earliest quotes ascribed to the two esteemed gentlemen first appear in the 30's, long after their deaths. The modern quote stems from a novel by Maurice Switzer. The quote probably originates from The King James Bible, which in turn lifted it from an old Norse Poem.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3216 on: April 15, 2016, 02:52:50 PM »
If he does come here, Bevington clearly has his work cut out but I found this interesting from Kasper Schmeichel:

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'All the praise in the world he deserves,' he said. 'The boss has been immense. He is the best manager I have played under.

'Everyone has got to know that the Nigel Pearson they see and the Nigel Pearson we see are two very different people. He is a charismatic guy. A born leader. He has a great sense of humour and an energy about him that transmits to the lads. He is very infectious with his enthusiasm for football.

'He cares. He cares deeply not just about football but about his players on and off the pitch - how their lives are going. It means a lot to players when you have a manager who cares so deeply about you as an individual and not just as a player.

'I think he should be manager of the year.'

Also this from last season after they managed to stay up:

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'It's come from belief, never losing focus, never losing the belief and the energy that we put into games, just keep going, keep working, keep believing in the way we want to play football.

'I liken this run-in to winning the title last season, it's sort of the same thing, You are going into every game needing points, you have to keep picking up points, and we have done that. It's been a great run.'

How we could have done with some of that belief, focus and energy this season.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2016, 03:05:20 PM by Rudy Can't Fail »

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3217 on: April 15, 2016, 08:12:35 PM »
If he does come here, Bevington clearly has his work cut out but I found this interesting from Kasper Schmeichel:

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'All the praise in the world he deserves,' he said. 'The boss has been immense. He is the best manager I have played under.

'Everyone has got to know that the Nigel Pearson they see and the Nigel Pearson we see are two very different people. He is a charismatic guy. A born leader. He has a great sense of humour and an energy about him that transmits to the lads. He is very infectious with his enthusiasm for football.

'He cares. He cares deeply not just about football but about his players on and off the pitch - how their lives are going. It means a lot to players when you have a manager who cares so deeply about you as an individual and not just as a player.

'I think he should be manager of the year.'

Also this from last season after they managed to stay up:

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'It's come from belief, never losing focus, never losing the belief and the energy that we put into games, just keep going, keep working, keep believing in the way we want to play football.

'I liken this run-in to winning the title last season, it's sort of the same thing, You are going into every game needing points, you have to keep picking up points, and we have done that. It's been a great run.'

How we could have done with some of that belief, focus and energy this season.

And yet despite this managerial genius, they chose to bin him.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3218 on: April 15, 2016, 08:17:10 PM »
I've watched both interviews again and I can't see the problem to be honest. A little arrogant maybe? I don't mind that, we have had Mr nice guy since MON left and that hasn't helped the cause.

The assault on the sideline was very worrying and with that on top of the interviews you can see maybe the pressure finally got hold of him. That was a very mad moment, a proper Eric Cantana moment. Would I rule out Eric playing for us because of that...probably I would.

But what moments of magic might you miss because of a cautious and safe approach?

These slightly unhinged characters in the world of music, film or sport can quite often bring you excitement and successs.

You know what maybe a loose canon is what we need?
« Last Edit: April 15, 2016, 08:19:54 PM by Ian J »

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3219 on: April 15, 2016, 08:39:15 PM »
If he does come here, Bevington clearly has his work cut out but I found this interesting from Kasper Schmeichel:

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'All the praise in the world he deserves,' he said. 'The boss has been immense. He is the best manager I have played under.

'Everyone has got to know that the Nigel Pearson they see and the Nigel Pearson we see are two very different people. He is a charismatic guy. A born leader. He has a great sense of humour and an energy about him that transmits to the lads. He is very infectious with his enthusiasm for football.

'He cares. He cares deeply not just about football but about his players on and off the pitch - how their lives are going. It means a lot to players when you have a manager who cares so deeply about you as an individual and not just as a player.

'I think he should be manager of the year.'

Also this from last season after they managed to stay up:

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'It's come from belief, never losing focus, never losing the belief and the energy that we put into games, just keep going, keep working, keep believing in the way we want to play football.

'I liken this run-in to winning the title last season, it's sort of the same thing, You are going into every game needing points, you have to keep picking up points, and we have done that. It's been a great run.'

How we could have done with some of that belief, focus and energy this season.

Exactly what we need and have been missing since Martin O'Nearly. We need a strong personality to galvanise the club and not bow to the press or anybody else, to give us pride and belief, both players and fans. That is the recipe for success.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3220 on: April 15, 2016, 08:58:32 PM »
Wasn't sherwood those things?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3221 on: April 15, 2016, 09:22:36 PM »
Wasn't sherwood those things?
Initially he was but seem to completely lose interest. Plus tactically Sherwood was a complete shambles. Whilst Pearson isn't exactly a genius, he's got more nous than Timmeh.

One key thing though, is that we need some unity between management and board now. It can't be us against them. Lambert felt at odds with the board and that was clear while he was in the job. The same thing happened with Sherwood and then particularly so with Garde. We can't be airing dirty laundry in public. Once a manager is fired they can spout off all they like. That said I hope the new board we have in place will give future managers less reason to.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3222 on: April 15, 2016, 09:40:36 PM »
I was starting to warm to the idea of Pearson, but then I just watched his 'ostrich' press conference again, and I don't want that arsehole anywhere near our club.

He might be more suitable for the Austria job.
I've just watched it now and I was tittering at the line " you are either very very silly or you are extremely stupid" What's the difference??

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3223 on: April 15, 2016, 10:13:28 PM »
Well if it is to be Pearson so be it. Just get tomorrow out of the way and get on with it. I don't think I can take another Eric Black team selection.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3224 on: April 15, 2016, 10:27:35 PM »
I was starting to warm to the idea of Pearson, but then I just watched his 'ostrich' press conference again, and I don't want that arsehole anywhere near our club.

He might be more suitable for the Austria job.
I've just watched it now and I was tittering at the line " you are either very very silly or you are extremely stupid" What's the difference??

Silly is Benny Hill, whereas stupid is Little & Large.

 


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