Manager for next season

[SheffieldVillain]

I don't know the exact stats but my remedial maths calculates he's managed about 300 games at non premier league level and he's won over half of them, approx win percentage of 40 odd % and a proven (this is unequivocal) of getting teams promoted. Surely this is our pre-requisite? Fully understand why people don't want him, I do get it. But tell me the viable alternatives without including a guy who genuinely doesn't want the job please. David Moyes does not want it - forget him.

How do you know that Moyes doesn't want it, as opposed to Moyes wants to wait until the end of the season to see what else comes up?

Viable altenatives - Chris Hughton, Simon Grayson, Aitor Karanka.

[NeilH]

I don't know the exact stats but my remedial maths calculates he's managed about 300 games at non premier league level and he's won over half of them, approx win percentage of 40 odd % and a proven (this is unequivocal) of getting teams promoted. Surely this is our pre-requisite? Fully understand why people don't want him, I do get it. But tell me the viable alternatives without including a guy who genuinely doesn't want the job please. David Moyes does not want it - forget him.

How do you know that Moyes doesn't want it, as opposed to Moyes wants to wait until the end of the season to see what else comes up?

Viable altenatives - Chris Hughton, Simon Grayson, Aitor Karanka.

As alternative to Moyes, these guys are preferable to me than Pearson - I think Hughton is a great outside bet.

[lordmcgrath5]

I still have a lot of respect for Moyes and think anyone who followed Fergie at Man United was doomed to fail. I think that's probably what Ferguson, with his stratospheric arrogance, wanted. But Moyes had a shocking record in Spain. The whole club needs an enormous boot up the arse and Pearson could be the man to do it. But of course I could be completely wrong and end up wanting him out too.

[lordmcgrath5]

How do you know that Moyes doesn't want it, as opposed to Moyes wants to wait until the end of the season to see what else comes up?

Viable altenatives - Chris Hughton, Simon Grayson, Aitor Karanka.

As alternative to Moyes, these guys are preferable to me than Pearson - I think Hughton is a great outside bet.

Hughton a good, honourable guy in my view. Not sure that's what we need just now.

[boozey182]

I think I'm in the minority here, but appointing Pearson would be the final straw for me. It would signify giving up. Now we're just like the rest of them. Football Club 2000: we need to win and we don't care how we do it.

I fully understand why people are jumping to his defence, or just shrugging shoulders as it can't be any worse on the pitch. We've been battered by disappointment after disappoitment. We're vulnerable and we want change. But I can't shake the feeling that it wouldn't just be a bad appointment, it would be a wrong appointment.

How many clubs have needed a manager in the time Pearson last got sacked? Swansea, Newcastle, Sunderland…there are probably more. None of these clubs, all desperate at the time, have gone anywhere near Pearson. Are we so much more desperate that we will?

He may also be benefiting from the Libor Kozak/Jores Okore phenomenon of getting better with each day he's not in football. I don't remember any clamour for him when we fired Sherwood. Maybe people were still thinking back to Alan Hutton controlling the ball in a mere fourteen touches and smashing in the winner against Pearson's Leicester. Or Leandro 'Pele' Bacuna waltzing through Pearson's defence and side footing gently for another winner against his team of gladiators later that season.

I've always thought we were the good guys. In the constant battle between good and evil, this would be an almighty coup for Team Evil.

(Just to clarify, I don't like him, and don't care how much hyperbole I use to make this point)

[ClaretAndBlueBlood]

I would either go for Eddie Howe or Mark Warburton

we are massively bigger than Bournemouth so I think Howe could be tempted. I think he is a more longer term solution than Pearson, or most of the others mentioned

Warburton - would he leave Rangers? They are massive but it is Scotland, not sure

the gamble is that they are both relatively inexperienced and we have some strong questionable characters in the dressing room, would they be able to handle them? Garde clearly couldn't and that caused his demise

[john e]

....and what would you prefer? A nice comfortable clean cut manager like Southgate who will nod and smile and say the nice things and charm the press or someone who actually has experience of turning round the fortunes of football clubs? Albeit by upsetting Pat Murphy

I just want a good manager. Pearson has the record of a mediocre Championship manager with one standout season.

t

Someone posted on here that he had a 49% win record at Leicester over the whole time he was there
that's pretty impressive if that's the case

[The_ads]

What has Grayson and Hughton done in football that Pearson hasn't? How many clubs Simon Grayson got promoted? How did Chris Hughton not get blues promoted when he probably had the best squad in the league? How many of the Sunderlands, Newcastle's etc have gone for Grayson or Hughton?

[boozey182]

What has Grayson and Hughton done in football that Pearson hasn't? How many clubs Simon Grayson got promoted? How did Chris Hughton not get blues promoted when he probably had the best squad in the league? How many of the Sunderlands, Newcastle's etc have gone for Grayson or Hughton?

Newcastle did...

[SheffieldVillain]

....and what would you prefer? A nice comfortable clean cut manager like Southgate who will nod and smile and say the nice things and charm the press or someone who actually has experience of turning round the fortunes of football clubs? Albeit by upsetting Pat Murphy

I just want a good manager. Pearson has the record of a mediocre Championship manager with one standout season.

t

Someone posted on here that he had a 49% win record at Leicester over the whole time he was there
that's pretty impressive if that's the case

Paul Lambert had a 49% win record at Norwich. Didn't help him much here.

[SheffieldVillain]

What has Grayson and Hughton done in football that Pearson hasn't?
How many clubs Simon Grayson got promoted?
How did Chris Hughton not get blues promoted when he probably had the best squad in the league?
How many of the Sunderlands, Newcastle's etc have gone for Grayson or Hughton?

1. They've done about the same.
2. All 4 clubs who he has managed - Blackpool, Leeds, Huddersfield and Preston.
3. Because they're Blues.
4. 1 - Newcastle.

[Dave]

I don't know the exact stats but my remedial maths calculates he's managed about 300 games at non premier league level and he's won over half of them, approx win percentage of 40 odd % and a proven (this is unequivocal) of getting teams promoted. Surely this is our pre-requisite?

Steve Bruce went to his mid-table Hull team the season after Pearson left, and in his first season got them promoted.

So he was hardly proving it at Hull when he did a vastly inferior job there to Steve Bruce.

[SheffieldVillain]

I don't know the exact stats but my remedial maths calculates he's managed about 300 games at non premier league level and he's won over half of them, approx win percentage of 40 odd % and a proven (this is unequivocal) of getting teams promoted. Surely this is our pre-requisite?

Steve Bruce went to his mid-table Hull team the season after Pearson left, and in his first season got them promoted.

So he was hardly proving it at Hull when he did a vastly inferior job there to Steve Bruce.

Also - 'a proven (this is unequivocal) of getting teams promoted'. Actually, he's done this less than Hughton, Bruce, McCarthy, Warnock or Grayson.

[boozey182]

I don't know the exact stats but my remedial maths calculates he's managed about 300 games at non premier league level and he's won over half of them, approx win percentage of 40 odd % and a proven (this is unequivocal) of getting teams promoted. Surely this is our pre-requisite?

Steve Bruce went to his mid-table Hull team the season after Pearson left, and in his first season got them promoted.

So he was hardly proving it at Hull when he did a vastly inferior job there to Steve Bruce.

Also - 'a proven (this is unequivocal) of getting teams promoted'. Actually, he's done this less than Hughton, Bruce, McCarthy, Warnock or Grayson.

I think The_ads has produced a much better argument against Pearson than I could ever come up with.

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

....and what would you prefer? A nice comfortable clean cut manager like Southgate who will nod and smile and say the nice things and charm the press or someone who actually has experience of turning round the fortunes of football clubs? Albeit by upsetting Pat Murphy

It's not just Pat Murphy though, is it?  Pearson offends lots of people.  He's also not the only manager out there who has experience of turning round the fortunes of football clubs, although he may be the only one who does it less often than he gets himself fired for being a liability.  I really don't understand this clamour for a bully; Keane, Karsa and Culverhouse proved demonstrably that it doesn't work with these players - the latter pair of idiots even got fired for their behaviour.  How is Pearson legally going to be more extreme than they were, then?  Would it even work?  I'd have thought the very last thing we need in our basket case of a dressing room is a volatile loon throwing his weight around. 

I think we need someone with a calm head (which Pearson doesn't appear to possess) who copes well under pressure (which Pearson apparently can't) and will be here to see through a long term plan (which Pearson has never done).  It's not just an either/or between a Southgate and a Pearson, there is a lot of middle ground there.  As others have said, a bit of charisma would be welcome.  That's charisma, not aggression.  Pearson seems to bring almost guaranteed disgrace and embarrassment sooner or later; haven't we had enough of that this season?     

they didn't get fired for bullying

Didn't they?  I thought there were allegations of bullying, Karsa was suspended and both were subsequently fired after an internal investigation.  Apologies if I'm wrong.  Still doesn't mean a bully is what we need.