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Offline Jimbo

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3060 on: April 14, 2016, 10:03:52 AM »
One thing about that Pat Murphy interview with Pearson. Murphy goaded and goaded, and Pearson tried not to rise against it despite his obvious anger. Murphy could have left it there, point made, but once he realised he was on safe ground, he continued the goading. If he'd tried that against Ferguson at Old Trafford he'd be out on his ear.   
« Last Edit: April 14, 2016, 10:05:24 AM by Jimbo »

Offline The_ads

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3061 on: April 14, 2016, 10:06:23 AM »
Garde would have been sacked regardless of any coaches bought in. We paid through the teeth toget Paul Lamberts coaches and look how that turned out. I get the nervousness around not having Shakespeare and Walsh but they haven't actually signed new contracts yet. I know it's probably crazy to even consider leaving the premier league champions and champions league football for our circus but you never know....

Offline The_ads

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3062 on: April 14, 2016, 10:09:46 AM »
Spot on Jimbo, I thought the press conference was a farce and as you say, Murphy wouldn't have gone near an Alladyce or Fergie. Pearson is a winner, I want winners at this football club, I want some passion on the touchline and I want cups smashed in the dressing room if you have dared to show anything other than 100% for that badge.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3063 on: April 14, 2016, 10:11:31 AM »
All I hope is that the board acts decisively on the overwhelming problem of the anger of the supporters.  Foolishly to the point of negligence an attitude has become established that the fans are fickle and easily manipulated.  I think a strategy of product marketing has been used in the mistaken belief that free flags, scarves, balloons, text messages, e mails, junk mail, deafening match day music and bellowed instructions to get behind the boys in claret and blue are an alternative to the simple fan pleasure of watching entertaining football.
Because I am bored by the predictable rubbish served up by the club and the players at Villa Park I want to see a new manager who is not boring.  For all his well documented faults I could accept Pearson if only because Villa Park would be a livelier, more vibrant, less boring place.
I dread the combined boardroom doing a nanny knows best job on the suffering fans and coming up with a Southgate type safe pair of hands.
I long to go back to the days when we walked to the ground thrilled by the prospect of watching a Villa game, even a losing one if we had something to cheer about.
Your words of wisdom fit my thinking too brian.
I don't want the predicable safe appointment - and shoot me down in flames  - that Moyes represents imho...I think his better days are over and even in his short time at Yanited he played things far too safe!
I'm not necessarily advocating Pearson - Dyche would be my choice - I just want someone with a bit of tactical nous who doesn't give a fu*k about how good other teams/players/managers are because we're gonna have a bloody good go at 'em and not surrender after conceding one goal which we've handed them on a sodding plate anyway!
If Pearson can do that for us fine, if not, then anyone with a brain who knows how to set teams up to compete in a game of football!

Offline Brend'Watkins

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3064 on: April 14, 2016, 10:15:57 AM »
I guarantee, this time next year, there won't be any Pearson detractors

Reading posts on here it appears there aren't too many either.  Quite a lot either don't like him... Nutter, psycho, bully, thug etc. No one hasn't said he won't be an improvement on our last 3 or 4 managers. So, assuming he's our man and starts well all the other stuff will be washed over.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3065 on: April 14, 2016, 10:16:37 AM »
Maybe we should update the poll to remove Moyes as that would be interesting?

Offline Chris Jameson

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3066 on: April 14, 2016, 10:28:54 AM »
The lunatic is taking over the asylum.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3067 on: April 14, 2016, 10:40:21 AM »
....and what would you prefer? A nice comfortable clean cut manager like Southgate who will nod and smile and say the nice things and charm the press or someone who actually has experience of turning round the fortunes of football clubs? Albeit by upsetting Pat Murphy

I just want a good manager. Pearson has the record of a mediocre Championship manager with one standout season.

Offline NeilH

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3068 on: April 14, 2016, 10:41:19 AM »
If it is going to be him then I will eventually get used to it, but right now there are a lot of doubts that will only be alleviated once he’s onboard.

My concern though would be why we seem to swing from one extreme to the other in order to fix problems that crop up at the club. We behave like that arcade game where you hit moles with a hammer. Problem with discipline, bash that mole with a Pearson hammer and oops another mole appears in the form of poor quality football or bad media relations.

Offline Chinchilla Bathhouse

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3069 on: April 14, 2016, 10:42:39 AM »
....and what would you prefer? A nice comfortable clean cut manager like Southgate who will nod and smile and say the nice things and charm the press or someone who actually has experience of turning round the fortunes of football clubs? Albeit by upsetting Pat Murphy

It's not just Pat Murphy though, is it?  Pearson offends lots of people.  He's also not the only manager out there who has experience of turning round the fortunes of football clubs, although he may be the only one who does it less often than he gets himself fired for being a liability.  I really don't understand this clamour for a bully; Keane, Karsa and Culverhouse proved demonstrably that it doesn't work with these players - the latter pair of idiots even got fired for their behaviour.  How is Pearson legally going to be more extreme than they were, then?  Would it even work?  I'd have thought the very last thing we need in our basket case of a dressing room is a volatile loon throwing his weight around. 

I think we need someone with a calm head (which Pearson doesn't appear to possess) who copes well under pressure (which Pearson apparently can't) and will be here to see through a long term plan (which Pearson has never done).  It's not just an either/or between a Southgate and a Pearson, there is a lot of middle ground there.  As others have said, a bit of charisma would be welcome.  That's charisma, not aggression.  Pearson seems to bring almost guaranteed disgrace and embarrassment sooner or later; haven't we had enough of that this season?     

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3070 on: April 14, 2016, 10:44:53 AM »
Integrity? There's not much of that about the place at the moment. We need to start showing some desire to compete before any integrity is restored. If we have to get nasty to do that, so be it. I really don't buy into this decent, respectable club rubbish. We're losers, and this game is all about winning. We've been too nice and too shit for too long.
Spot on! Pearson for  me,I wouldn't want to be in the after match dressing room if I hadn't given 100%.

Agree. I think we could do with a manager who is certainly not a nice guy. Pearson's contribution to Leicester's spectacular ascent should not be underestimated. In addition, we have had (at least) reasonably nice guys in charge for a few seasons now and many of the players have taken the piss. I'd be delighted if Pearson took over, though I'm sure his tenure would not be without some acrimony and controversy. We might win a few games, though. Which would be nice.

Offline SheffieldVillain

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3071 on: April 14, 2016, 10:45:53 AM »
Pearson is a winner, I want winners at this football club,

Is he though? What has he won?

He's spent most of his managerial career bobbling about the Championship playoffs - how does that make him a winner? He won 11 games last season with the side who currently top the table - winner?

Offline VILLA MOLE

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3072 on: April 14, 2016, 10:48:09 AM »
Pearson is a winner, I want winners at this football club,

Is he though? What has he won?

He's spent most of his managerial career bobbling about the Championship playoffs - how does that make him a winner? He won 11 games last season with the side who currently top the table - winner?


oh to win 11 games !!!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/sport/video-1179832/BBCs-Pat-Murphy-rips-Nigel-Pearson-saying-bully.html

I am not sure about him but I am coming around

Offline The_ads

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3073 on: April 14, 2016, 10:52:22 AM »
I don't know the exact stats but my remedial maths calculates he's managed about 300 games at non premier league level and he's won over half of them, approx win percentage of 40 odd % and a proven (this is unequivocal) of getting teams promoted. Surely this is our pre-requisite? Fully understand why people don't want him, I do get it. But tell me the viable alternatives without including a guy who genuinely doesn't want the job please. David Moyes does not want it - forget him.

Offline ClaretAndBlueBlood

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3074 on: April 14, 2016, 10:54:15 AM »
....and what would you prefer? A nice comfortable clean cut manager like Southgate who will nod and smile and say the nice things and charm the press or someone who actually has experience of turning round the fortunes of football clubs? Albeit by upsetting Pat Murphy

It's not just Pat Murphy though, is it?  Pearson offends lots of people.  He's also not the only manager out there who has experience of turning round the fortunes of football clubs, although he may be the only one who does it less often than he gets himself fired for being a liability.  I really don't understand this clamour for a bully; Keane, Karsa and Culverhouse proved demonstrably that it doesn't work with these players - the latter pair of idiots even got fired for their behaviour.  How is Pearson legally going to be more extreme than they were, then?  Would it even work?  I'd have thought the very last thing we need in our basket case of a dressing room is a volatile loon throwing his weight around. 

I think we need someone with a calm head (which Pearson doesn't appear to possess) who copes well under pressure (which Pearson apparently can't) and will be here to see through a long term plan (which Pearson has never done).  It's not just an either/or between a Southgate and a Pearson, there is a lot of middle ground there.  As others have said, a bit of charisma would be welcome.  That's charisma, not aggression.  Pearson seems to bring almost guaranteed disgrace and embarrassment sooner or later; haven't we had enough of that this season?     

they didn't get fired for bullying

 


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