Manager for next season

[TonyD]

I wanted Rodgers when we took Lambert.   He seemed very good at press interviews.  I think he then came up short at Liverpool once StevieG and the hungry lad were not there.   So a decent manager but will he get us up and if he did , would he take us all the way to the title??  Great teeth

[JUAN PABLO]

PR was also at Forest last night

[four fornicholl]

Wrong thread I know, but as its the busiest, was just wondering how Big Ken is getting on, anyone heard anything?

[in exile]

PR was also at Forest last night

Who?

[Steve67]

PR was also at Forest last night

Who?

Think he meant Pearson.

[pauliewalnuts]

I wanted Rodgers when we took Lambert.   He seemed very good at press interviews.  I think he then came up short at Liverpool once StevieG and the hungry lad were not there.   So a decent manager but will he get us up and if he did , would he take us all the way to the title??  Great teeth

Rodgers got out tacticked by Lambert. More than once.

[in exile]

PR was also at Forest last night

Who?

Think he meant Pearson.

So when he types the letters P and R he really means N and P?
Oh dear, this could get very confusing

[Matt C]

PR was also at Forest last night

Who?

Think he meant Pearson.

Paddy Reilly?

[Matt C]

I wanted Rodgers when we took Lambert.   He seemed very good at press interviews.  I think he then came up short at Liverpool once StevieG and the hungry lad were not there.   So a decent manager but will he get us up and if he did , would he take us all the way to the title??  Great teeth

Rodgers got out tacticked by Lambert. More than once.

A virtual kick in the balls if ever there was one.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Edit: Oh and you need to check your records on Leicester, Pearson never had them finishing 12th.

I didn't say that he did. I said that I'd expect him to take Forest to 6th - 12th.

We can change it to 5th - 11th if that makes you happier. His Championship record over that time was 5th with Leicester, 11th with Hull, 9th with Leicester and then 6th with Leicester.

Both Hull and Leicester were in a real mess when he found them with neither a pot to piss in. When he left Hull to rejoin Leicester he did indeed have them 11th but with a game in hand that could have seen them go 5th.

Incidentally, while he was getting Leicester to 6th, Steve Bruce was taking his former Hull team to automatic promotion. If Pearson is this managerial behemoth who we would be fools not to hire, why was he pissing around in mid-table with Hull when a limited manager like Bruce got them promoted at the first attempt?

I don't think anybody has said we would be fools not to hire, Pearson but only a blind man would fail to see he's left every club in a better place than when he found them. Nutter he may be but his record ain't half bad.

As for Bruce at Hull, his first season saw them climb from 8th to 2nd. A good achievement, agreed but he was lucky to avoid relegation the following, the wins he picked up in August and September helped keep them up as they lost 9 of the final 13 games. The less said about his second season in the PL the better other than he bought some crap and paid the price. Saying that, I like the man, like the other chap we had from Small Heath, he's a decent sort. In fact add Hughton to the list. His great season with Newcastle isn't enough to want him at Villa Park though. Norwich saw to that though he deserves credit for the job he's doing at Brighton.

[Villa in Denmark]

I saw speculation linking Bielsa with Everton yesterday. I don't think how much it costs to get rid of Martinez will be that much of an issue with [b[the new money in the club[/b] and the TV cash going up, and Martinez is increasingly unpopular there.

I really wanted Moyes at first, but I'm coming round to the idea of Rodgers. He did good things at Swansea. And he has a lovely portrait of himself in his house.

What new money?

Farhad Moshiri paid however many millions for a 49% share. The money went to the consortium that owned the club, of which Kenwright was by far the largest shareholder.

That consortium still owns a controlling interest, but Moshiri is now the largest single shareholder.

From a purely financial viewpoint the transition makes no sense if the expectation is that he'll pump money into a venture where he has no control.

[Dante Lavelli]

I wanted Rodgers when we took Lambert.   He seemed very good at press interviews.  I think he then came up short at Liverpool once StevieG and the hungry lad were not there.   So a decent manager but will he get us up and if he did , would he take us all the way to the title??  Great teeth

Rodgers got out tacticked by Lambert. More than once.

A virtual kick in the balls if ever there was one.

I think Brendan Rodgers has one way of playing and is pretty inflexible, he doesn't (or didn't) do tactical changes.  However it is a style of play - and absolute conviction in his beliefs - that I'd be happy for us to buy into. 

[SheffieldVillain]

I don't think anybody has said we would be fools not to hire, Pearson but only a blind man would fail to see he's left every club in a better place than when he found them. Nutter he may be but his record ain't half bad.

And yet despite this record, almost every club has decided to dispense with his services in controversial circumstances.

Carlisle - Kept them up but sacked anyway
Southampton - Kept them up but sacked anyway (after 3 months)
Leicester #1 - About to be replaced by Paulo Sousa so walked
Leicester #2 - Kept them in Premier but board couldn't work with him any longer

Coincidence? Or impossible to work with?

[Clampy]

I don't think anybody has said we would be fools not to hire, Pearson but only a blind man would fail to see he's left every club in a better place than when he found them. Nutter he may be but his record ain't half bad.

And yet despite this record, almost every club has decided to dispense with his services in controversial circumstances.

Carlisle - Kept them up but sacked anyway
Southampton - Kept them up but sacked anyway
Leicester #1 - About to be replaced by Paulo Sousa so walked
Leicester #2 - Kept them in Premier but board couldn't work with him any longer

Coincidence? Or impossible to work with?

He wasn't doing too badly at Smethwick until they replaced him with Tony Mowbray and we all know how that ended.

[SheffieldVillain]

I don't think anybody has said we would be fools not to hire, Pearson but only a blind man would fail to see he's left every club in a better place than when he found them. Nutter he may be but his record ain't half bad.

And yet despite this record, almost every club has decided to dispense with his services in controversial circumstances.

Carlisle - Kept them up but sacked anyway
Southampton - Kept them up but sacked anyway
Leicester #1 - About to be replaced by Paulo Sousa so walked
Leicester #2 - Kept them in Premier but board couldn't work with him any longer

Coincidence? Or impossible to work with?

He wasn't doing too badly at Smethwick until they replaced him with Tony Mowbray and we all know how that ended.

Well there's another one to add to the list then - won 3 out of 4 games, but the board didn't want to keep him.

There's a pattern here. Generally decent results but getting sacked anyway. That's not normal, not 5 times in a managerial career.