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Offline Allan C

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2700 on: April 11, 2016, 12:43:45 PM »
Seriously all Pearson has to offer is he's available, possibly cheap and he's likely to punch Gabby and Richards. I don't buy this "championship experience" rubbish, if Gestede can score a hatfull there it can't be that tough. Get Moyes now.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2701 on: April 11, 2016, 12:46:07 PM »
It's true. When you look at Pearson, you see a couple of promotions and lots of hanging around. With Bruce you see quite a few promotions. I don't see how Pearson is so much more appealing than Bruce just based on their records.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Pearson#Managerial_statistics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bruce#Managerial_statistics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hughton#Managerial_statistics

Indeed - the thing against Bruce is that he totally failed at his biggest gig, Sunderland.

totally failed is a bit harsh, struggled to replace Bent, Henderson and Gyan and bought a rag tag bunch of misfits like Wickham if I recall

certainly did no worse than O'Neill up there who replaced him

Bruce's biggest failing imo would be not getting Hull up this time around, though the Livermore ban was a huge blow....

preference for Hughton though, based primarily on the job he did at Newcastle

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2702 on: April 11, 2016, 12:50:17 PM »
Could we give him a 4 week contract so that after he ritually disembowels the likes of Agbonlahor and Richards whilst howling at the moon, we then appoint a decent manager in time for pre-season?
This. Yes please, this!

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2703 on: April 11, 2016, 12:54:28 PM »
It's true. When you look at Pearson, you see a couple of promotions and lots of hanging around. With Bruce you see quite a few promotions. I don't see how Pearson is so much more appealing than Bruce just based on their records.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Pearson#Managerial_statistics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bruce#Managerial_statistics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hughton#Managerial_statistics

Indeed. As per my post on an earlier page, Hughton and Pearson look pretty similar, with Hughton probably having the the edge.

And not being a dick.

Statistically, Pearson is the clear winner based on points, though Hughton's record is far superior to Bruce's. I could mention the respective spend and success in the transfer market but we all know all the success at Leicester was down to Steve Walsh and of course the fact that Pearson is obviously a dick.

But the actual spend compared to the rest of the division is important. Hughton and Bruce might have spent more money but they were in the Premier League, whereas you can spend much less money and still be the richest side in the Championship.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2704 on: April 11, 2016, 12:56:34 PM »
My two favourites are

Dyche + Houghton

Both decent young managers who have some premiership experience

I think if it was an out of work manager it would have been announced by now

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2705 on: April 11, 2016, 12:59:11 PM »
Could we give him a 4 week contract so that after he ritually disembowels the likes of Agbonlahor and Richards whilst howling at the moon, we then appoint a decent manager in time for pre-season?

Porto did just that when they replaced Mourinho. In the pre-season of 2004–05, they hired Italian coach Luigi Delneri and fired him before the start of the season.

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2706 on: April 11, 2016, 01:01:51 PM »
Nobody can seriously think Hughton would leave the relative calm and success of Brighton who could potentially be in the premier league next season, where he is building something, to come to the Villa chaos?
Unless he's a Villa fan why on earth would you do it?

I could if they don't get promoted, as both teams would be starting on zero points next season and he might feel that we have more potential than Brighton once the downward spiral is reversed.  Not to mention a big pay-rise.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2707 on: April 11, 2016, 01:08:03 PM »
It's true. When you look at Pearson, you see a couple of promotions and lots of hanging around. With Bruce you see quite a few promotions. I don't see how Pearson is so much more appealing than Bruce just based on their records.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Pearson#Managerial_statistics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bruce#Managerial_statistics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hughton#Managerial_statistics

Indeed. As per my post on an earlier page, Hughton and Pearson look pretty similar, with Hughton probably having the the edge.

And not being a dick.

Statistically, Pearson is the clear winner based on points, though Hughton's record is far superior to Bruce's. I could mention the respective spend and success in the transfer market but we all know all the success at Leicester was down to Steve Walsh and of course the fact that Pearson is obviously a dick.

But the actual spend compared to the rest of the division is important. Hughton and Bruce might have spent more money but they were in the Premier League, whereas you can spend much less money and still be the richest side in the Championship.

Didn't Hughton pay £8-9m for strikers Ricky van Wolfswinkel and an additional £6m for Gary Hooper? I think they managed 6 goals between them. I recall the Norwich fans voted for their third choice goalkeeper as Player of the Year, so shit and disgusted they were with their team.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2708 on: April 11, 2016, 01:10:05 PM »
It's true. When you look at Pearson, you see a couple of promotions and lots of hanging around. With Bruce you see quite a few promotions. I don't see how Pearson is so much more appealing than Bruce just based on their records.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Pearson#Managerial_statistics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bruce#Managerial_statistics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hughton#Managerial_statistics

Indeed. As per my post on an earlier page, Hughton and Pearson look pretty similar, with Hughton probably having the the edge.

And not being a dick.

Statistically, Pearson is the clear winner based on points, though Hughton's record is far superior to Bruce's. I could mention the respective spend and success in the transfer market but we all know all the success at Leicester was down to Steve Walsh and of course the fact that Pearson is obviously a dick.

But the actual spend compared to the rest of the division is important. Hughton and Bruce might have spent more money but they were in the Premier League, whereas you can spend much less money and still be the richest side in the Championship.

And as for "clear winner based on points", having a season in League One with squad that was only in League One due to previous mismanagement is going to make those figures look better.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2709 on: April 11, 2016, 01:12:25 PM »
And yet until the goal 7 games were much better off the Pearson at Leicester who clearly had a better squad.  My bigger issue is that everyone says Walsh found the players to fit into the team.  Without Walsh and Shakespear Pearson will be nowhere near as good as he was at Leicester. And that's arguable as to how good he was.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2710 on: April 11, 2016, 01:12:38 PM »
Nobody can seriously think Hughton would leave the relative calm and success of Brighton who could potentially be in the premier league next season, where he is building something, to come to the Villa chaos?
Unless he's a Villa fan why on earth would you do it?

I could if they don't get promoted, as both teams would be starting on zero points next season and he might feel that we have more potential than Brighton once the downward spiral is reversed.  Not to mention a big pay-rise.

brighton - new stadium, ambitious chairman who supports the club, on the rise.

villa - in decline, shit for years, chairman doesn't give a fuck, ex-blues (so will start with a fair few morons on your back from day 1)

he'll struggle to make a decision...

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2711 on: April 11, 2016, 01:13:53 PM »
The caliber of manager we appoint will reveal how much money the club will be spending on replacing this squad.  Moyes = reason to be cheerful.  Bruce/Hughton/Pearson etc al = prepare to be disappointed. 

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2712 on: April 11, 2016, 01:17:32 PM »
My two favourites are

Dyche + Houghton

Both decent young managers who have some premiership experience

I think if it was an out of work manager it would have been announced by now

Why would Dyche want to leave a promoted Burnley to stay in the Championship with Villa ?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2713 on: April 11, 2016, 01:19:03 PM »
I recall the Norwich fans voted for their third choice goalkeeper as Player of the Year, so shit and disgusted they were with their team.

So Watkins, Siegrist or Steer it is then for Villa's player of the season

Offline Bottom Right 89

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2714 on: April 11, 2016, 01:21:37 PM »
If you put Pearson's unpredictable nature aside, his record at all the clubs he's managed is impressive. I've been against him from the start because of all the off field stuff but ultimately we will judge whoever takes over by results on the field so if Moyes is umming and arring about what money there is available and waiting to see if a better job comes along then I'd be willing to accept Pearson as a decent second choice before Bruce. 

 


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