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Offline robbo1874

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2595 on: April 10, 2016, 09:21:39 PM »
The important thing for us is that the new board starts making sensible decisions and turning us around. I'm hoping that our academy, which is better than Sunderland and Newcastle's, might give us a leg up. But it's the signings we make to integrate with our youngsters which will be key.

We will not be able to go out and buy a new squad due to the cost and the block it would put on the ambition of the young players.  You are right in that we are going to have to bring through quite a few from the U21's and look at the right type of players to bring in that will work with them.

It is therefore essential that a manager that can work with young players and develop them is brought in.  What we do not need is a manager that only goes out and buys players.  That is short term and will be no good for the club in the long run.  The usual formula for developing a young side is to get a manager the young players can relate to or a very good coach that they will respect.  I do not see those traits in many of the managers discussed so far.
you've posted what I was thinking. We won't have large amounts to spend on players and wages and I can't see us doing that with our current financial constraints. We have to adapt to the situation we're in. After appointing the right manager, whether that be a proven championship promotion man, or whoever Little and co. Decide is the right candidate, then we have to look at the players on our books.
I'd argue that what money we do have to spend would be best spent on changing the culture of the club. Pay out the high earning leeches who are stealing a living - I.e most of the current first team squad and see what's left from the reserves, the U21s and the academy.

Surely to fuck there's enough talent there to assemble a new first team squad that is capable of getting us into a play off position?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2596 on: April 10, 2016, 09:24:21 PM »
But what we can't overlook with Pearson is the well trodden argument that much of his success at Leicester can be attributed to Shakespeare & Walsh, neither of whom are gonna jump ship to Villa. So, unhinged or not, if he can't spot a player or organise effective training he ain't much use given the scale of our task

Offline Rudy Can't Fail

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2597 on: April 10, 2016, 09:25:51 PM »
The more I look at NP's record , the more he makes sense.  Somebody strong enough to sort out the bad apples too.   Come on down Nige.

For me the 'strong' part is being over played, he's a winner that improves his teams everywhere he goes no matter how shit they are when he finds them. All the 'unhinged', 'lunatic' stuff is based on what, a press conference and a story blown up by the media. As McArthur said, “I got a bit scared, to be honest," he told the Croydon Advertiser. "These things happen and you see it quite a lot with managers and players throughout the game, so I’m not bothered by it."

“I’ve collided into him and he said it was only a joke, so I’ll take it in that manner and we move on."

“If it’s on and off the field, it’s going to get blown out of proportion but there’s nothing in it on my part."

Offline ciggiesnbeer

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2598 on: April 10, 2016, 09:27:25 PM »
Christ I am SO sick and tired of the first thing we have to discuss about the club is always cost cutting. Whats it been now, six years? More? Is it really that much to ask that a club of our size and revenue can motor along comfortably buying good players, good managers and looking up rather than down?

Not sure how on topic this is. Sorry. Just venting.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2599 on: April 10, 2016, 09:34:20 PM »
Of the managers we're linked with or likely to be in the market for...
Moyes: Yes
Pearson: Nutter but yes.
Hughton: Yes
Dyche: Yes
Rowett: Maybe.
Monk: Umm...probably not.
Warnock: No
McCarthy: No
Coleman: No
Dwight Yorke: Dear McGrath no.
Bruce: No.

I don't think there's a single name that would have me doing cartwheels of excitement.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2600 on: April 10, 2016, 09:35:35 PM »
The more I look at NP's record , the more he makes sense.  Somebody strong enough to sort out the bad apples too.   Come on down Nige.

For me the 'strong' part is being over played, he's a winner that improves his teams everywhere he goes no matter how shit they are when he finds them. All the 'unhinged', 'lunatic' stuff is based on what, a press conference and a story blown up by the media. As McArthur said, “I got a bit scared, to be honest," he told the Croydon Advertiser. "These things happen and you see it quite a lot with managers and players throughout the game, so I’m not bothered by it."

“I’ve collided into him and he said it was only a joke, so I’ll take it in that manner and we move on."

“If it’s on and off the field, it’s going to get blown out of proportion but there’s nothing in it on my part."

A few press conferences, telling his own fans to "fuck off and die" and the McArthur thing. It's hardly normal behaviour. Unless i've missed loads of managers doing this to an opposition player.


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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2601 on: April 10, 2016, 09:43:32 PM »
I'm not saying it's normal, PWS but it's hardy the crime of the century. See Ferguson and Mourinho for losing it at press conferences. As to the fans that like to dish it out behind the dugouts but can't take it back, all I can say is dee dums.

Offline conman

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2602 on: April 10, 2016, 09:49:03 PM »
I'm not saying it's normal, PWS but it's hardy the crime of the century. See Ferguson and Mourinho for losing it at press conferences. As to the fans that like to dish it out behind the dugouts but can't take it back, all I can say is dee dums.
even our own Tony Parks done it yesterday

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2603 on: April 10, 2016, 09:51:05 PM »
Genuine question but what did the fan say to get that response from Pearson? Assume it wasn't just one comment and it wasn't asking him how the tomatoes were coming along in his vegetable garden?

Offline rob_bridge

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2604 on: April 10, 2016, 09:52:16 PM »
Unless we are in a position to move the 10 'senior' players on - no ifs, no buts, no maybes and hold onto the 5-6 decent ones most of whom Sherwood didn't want, then it is utterly irrelevant.

Sherwood got one thing right and said there is a losing mentality at the club. There is - here is the list on the pitch and all of them need to be binned. All of them.
 
Guzan
Clark
Hutton
Westwood
Bacuna
Lescott
Richardson
Richards
Gabby
CNZ

We have a challenge on out hands next year - let's start addressing it if we can by binning ALL of the above.

There's a few other maybes but those are the worse in terms of influence and oft picked

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2605 on: April 10, 2016, 09:58:49 PM »
Genuine question but what did the fan say to get that response from Pearson? Assume it wasn't just one comment and it wasn't asking him how the tomatoes were coming along in his vegetable garden?


They were calling him a twat. Still shows him up in a bad light that he has a short fuse and gets baited. I think if things didn't go well for him here it would be a car crash with him. Most of the incidents happened when he was under pressure at a small club like Leicester, how the hell would he cope with us?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2606 on: April 10, 2016, 10:06:12 PM »
Genuine question but what did the fan say to get that response from Pearson? Assume it wasn't just one comment and it wasn't asking him how the tomatoes were coming along in his vegetable garden?


They were calling him a twat. Still shows him up in a bad light that he has a short fuse and gets baited. I think if things didn't go well for him here it would be a car crash with him. Most of the incidents happened when he was under pressure at a small club like Leicester, how the hell would he cope with us?
who cares , as long as he gets us promotion like he did with Leicester and then builds a team capable of doing what Leicester have done this season . 

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2607 on: April 10, 2016, 10:14:52 PM »
I'd love a manager that the players are scared of after five years of piss taking and criminal under performance. The kind of manager that you wouldn't sit next to in a dug out and play silly buggers with chewing gum, for instance.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2608 on: April 10, 2016, 10:17:19 PM »
I'd love a manager that the players are scared of after five years of piss taking and criminal under performance. The kind of manager that you wouldn't sit next to in a dug out and play silly buggers with chewing gum, for instance.

Why would our 'seniore' players be scared of him. Half a dozen will be on much better wages than those he previously managed and himself. They'll be able to poison the others

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2609 on: April 10, 2016, 10:19:22 PM »
Genuine question but what did the fan say to get that response from Pearson? Assume it wasn't just one comment and it wasn't asking him how the tomatoes were coming along in his vegetable garden?


They were calling him a twat. Still shows him up in a bad light that he has a short fuse and gets baited. I think if things didn't go well for him here it would be a car crash with him. Most of the incidents happened when he was under pressure at a small club like Leicester, how the hell would he cope with us?
who cares , as long as he gets us promotion like he did with Leicester and then builds a team capable of doing what Leicester have done this season .

But that's the other half of the problem. Everything he achieved with Leicester was achieved with his assistants, Shakespeare and Walsh, who are currently counting down the days to when they can pick up their PL winners medals and find out who they'll be playing in the group stages of the Champions League so wouldn't be joining him here.

That's providing you can get past what for me is the first half of the problem.

I'm fed up with seeing objectionable, classless cock sockets associated with Aston Villa. His appointment for me really would be a sign of how low we've sunk.

 


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