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Offline tomd2103

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2505 on: April 10, 2016, 02:03:56 PM »
Hard to say Hughton can't cut it, Newcastle binned him while they were 11th after romping division 2, he finished 11th with Norwich and was binned the following season when they were 5 points clear of the drop zone. They ended up relegated. I doubt he'll ever be a great manager but he has held his own in the top flight the few times he's been in it.

Which is pretty much what we want.  We need someone who can take us up next season and the solidify us in the top flight for the next two seasons.  We would then hopefully look at bringing in someone who could take us forward from there. 

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2506 on: April 10, 2016, 02:05:27 PM »
Hughton would be a good appointment.  If we could get him I would take him over Bruce or Pearson.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2507 on: April 10, 2016, 02:09:13 PM »
I don't want Bruce.
Rowett would be an excellent choice.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2508 on: April 10, 2016, 02:19:13 PM »
I voted for Moyes but I am not sure now. I don't think Rowett has been around long enough yet, I don't fancy us taking a chance so would prefer plenty of experience. If Bruce is so good at getting relegated teams up why is it looking unlikely this year? it's a tough decision that's for sure. Warnock? If we are bottom at Xmas then yes.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2509 on: April 10, 2016, 02:33:51 PM »
I can't believe anyone thinks our status had fallen enough to be looking at Neil Warnock.

See also those with the "we need championship level players" (or, in one post today, league one) thing too.

No we don't, we need good players. Buying players of championship level is a quick route to staying in the championship - we need to be getting out of it, not voluntarily becoming the new Leeds.

I appreciate we are going down, but I sometimes think there's a competition on here to see who can wallow the most in our misery.

Offline Stu

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2510 on: April 10, 2016, 02:34:35 PM »
Hard to say Hughton can't cut it, Newcastle binned him while they were 11th after romping division 2, he finished 11th with Norwich and was binned the following season when they were 5 points clear of the drop zone. They ended up relegated. I doubt he'll ever be a great manager but he has held his own in the top flight the few times he's been in it.

He offers far more than Pearson, even when you disregard Pearson's horrible personality.

Hughton would be a good appointment I reckon. If we could get him to come to us.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2511 on: April 10, 2016, 02:49:33 PM »
I can't believe anyone thinks our status had fallen enough to be looking at Neil Warnock.

See also those with the "we need championship level players" (or, in one post today, league one) thing too.

No we don't, we need good players. Buying players of championship level is a quick route to staying in the championship - we need to be getting out of it, not voluntarily becoming the new Leeds.

I appreciate we are going down, but I sometimes think there's a competition on here to see who can wallow the most in our misery.
I appreciate what you are saying but Bernstein has specifically said he is looking at an English manager so there really is no point speculating around that, there are only so many English managers with Premiership and Championship experience and Warnock is one of them.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2512 on: April 10, 2016, 02:49:38 PM »
Hard to say Hughton can't cut it, Newcastle binned him while they were 11th after romping division 2, he finished 11th with Norwich and was binned the following season when they were 5 points clear of the drop zone. They ended up relegated. I doubt he'll ever be a great manager but he has held his own in the top flight the few times he's been in it.

He offers far more than Pearson, even when you disregard Pearson's horrible personality.

I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion, Dave.

Pearson's record makes an interesting read, not only is he a fire fighter, brought in to clubs struggling, he takes them up the table and pushes them to places they could only have dreamed of. Another trait is the number of records he sets with unbeaten runs. The 21 game unbeaten run at Leicester in their promotional season is hard to ignore, as was there 9 wins on the trot. I like the fact he served his apprenticeship for 10 years, not going for the manager's jobs he was offered until he was ready. The stand out stats for me though are the promotion season in 2013-14 where Leicester finished champions with 102 points, losing only 6 times all season, just two at home. In fact Pearson has a great record of getting his teams to win at home, something we've struggled to do for decades.

Hughton, as I mentioned a few days ago has a more than decent record, I like him but I really don't see what he offers more of than Pearson other than being a very likeable chap.

If we must have an English/British manager, I'd rather we go with Pearson with Gary Rowett as a second choice.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2513 on: April 10, 2016, 02:50:42 PM »
I can't believe anyone thinks our status had fallen enough to be looking at Neil Warnock.

See also those with the "we need championship level players" (or, in one post today, league one) thing too.

No we don't, we need good players. Buying players of championship level is a quick route to staying in the championship - we need to be getting out of it, not voluntarily becoming the new Leeds.

I appreciate we are going down, but I sometimes think there's a competition on here to see who can wallow the most in our misery.

I agree entirely Paulie. We need to realise that the rest of next season's Championship teams are bricking it at the prospect of Villa, Newcastle and possibly Sunderland coming down. It's time we remembered how massive we are compared to them, and we should start acting a bit more like it.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2514 on: April 10, 2016, 02:52:15 PM »
I don't think they'll be bricking it at all. A lot of them will be relishing the prospect of playing us.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2515 on: April 10, 2016, 02:54:01 PM »
We need a longer term appointment here, like Lambert was meant to be I guess...

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2516 on: April 10, 2016, 02:54:27 PM »
I can't believe anyone thinks our status had fallen enough to be looking at Neil Warnock.

See also those with the "we need championship level players" (or, in one post today, league one) thing too.

No we don't, we need good players. Buying players of championship level is a quick route to staying in the championship - we need to be getting out of it, not voluntarily becoming the new Leeds.

I appreciate we are going down, but I sometimes think there's a competition on here to see who can wallow the most in our misery.
I appreciate what you are saying but Bernstein has specifically said he is looking at an English manager so there really is no point speculating around that, there are only so many English managers with Premiership and Championship experience and Warnock is one of them.

Wants English manager with Championship experience = appoint Colin Wanker from Rotherham?

Bit of a jump, that.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2517 on: April 10, 2016, 02:54:53 PM »
I don't think they'll be bricking it at all. A lot of them will be relishing the prospect of playing us.

I bet they all wanted Newcastle too a few seasons back and most teams just got blown away. Everyone wants to play us now and I don't doubt we'd struggle against a League 2 side. It won't be like that next season and certainly not if we prepared ourselves correctly.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2518 on: April 10, 2016, 02:57:41 PM »
I don't think they'll be bricking it at all. A lot of them will be relishing the prospect of playing us.

I bet they all wanted Newcastle too a few seasons back and most teams just got blown away. Everyone wants to play us now and I don't doubt we'd struggle against a League 2 side. It won't be like that next season and certainly not if we prepared ourselves correctly.

The last bit of your final sentence is the all important part. There's a lot of work to do, and comparisons with Newcastle of a few years ago don't really hold up.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2519 on: April 10, 2016, 03:00:26 PM »
I can't believe anyone thinks our status had fallen enough to be looking at Neil Warnock.

See also those with the "we need championship level players" (or, in one post today, league one) thing too.

No we don't, we need good players. Buying players of championship level is a quick route to staying in the championship - we need to be getting out of it, not voluntarily becoming the new Leeds.

I appreciate we are going down, but I sometimes think there's a competition on here to see who can wallow the most in our misery.
I appreciate what you are saying but Bernstein has specifically said he is looking at an English manager so there really is no point speculating around that, there are only so many English managers with Premiership and Championship experience and Warnock is one of them.

Wants English manager with Championship experience = appoint Colin Wanker from Rotherham?

Bit of a jump, that.

I take comfort in the fact that Pulis is ruled out if we insist on an English manager.

 


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