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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1920 on: April 04, 2016, 12:55:01 PM »
I know we're all desperate for the 16/17 season to be a one-off, but I'd honestly rather miss out on promotion playing nice football than bully our way there with 1-0 wins and whatever the Championship equivalent of Kevin Davies is these days.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1921 on: April 04, 2016, 12:59:56 PM »
It's a myth that the only way to come up from the Championship is basically through expensive pubteam-style football. Swansea, Southampton, Bournemouth, they all came up and looked a lot less unstable in the division than did the mass of useless boofers who charge in then charge out of the top flight every year.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1922 on: April 04, 2016, 01:07:40 PM »
In the line of work my son met Gianluca Vialli in Cannes this morning. He asked him if he was interested in the Villa job.  "Too late" was the reply with heavy implication that the deal is already done.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1923 on: April 04, 2016, 01:19:34 PM »
You are spot on Monty. Teams that can play a bit do much better than the ones who rely on blood guts and thunder. We need someone to build a side that is sustainable.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1924 on: April 04, 2016, 01:21:49 PM »
It's going to be Pearson, isn't it?

The era of the manager being able to bully players into getting a response is long gone.  So as much as I like the thought of Bacuna having that stupid shit-eating grin wiped of his face with a haymaker or two, whatever short-term cathartic benefits that brings will soon dissipate.

Pearson being Pearson, I'm not sure he'd lay one on the likes of Gabby and Bacuna anyway.   

It will be Westwood or some sickly youth from the U18s.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1925 on: April 04, 2016, 01:23:26 PM »
You are spot on Monty. Teams that can play a bit do much better than the ones who rely on blood guts and thunder. We need someone to build a side that is sustainable.

It just seems to work better long-term, and that's what we seriously lack and need - a long-term actual no-seriously-this-time strategy. So it didn't work out specifically with Garde? Well, the answer must be to go back to playing stupidball. Only we fired the previous manager because his brand of stupidball turned out to be as bad as the previous incumbent's, whose was also as bad as his predecessor's. Why don't we just stop being stupid?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1926 on: April 04, 2016, 01:24:02 PM »
It's going to be Pearson, isn't it?

The era of the manager being able to bully players into getting a response is long gone.  So as much as I like the thought of Bacuna having that stupid shit-eating grin wiped of his face with a haymaker or two, whatever short-term cathartic benefits that brings will soon dissipate.

Pearson being Pearson, I'm not sure he'd lay one on the likes of Gabby and Bacuna anyway.   

It will be Westwood or some sickly youth from the U18s.

Players seemed to love him at Leicester, and no manager can be that feared if their own son sees fit to make a seedy porn flick while on an ambassadorial type trip to the owners homeland.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1927 on: April 04, 2016, 01:24:39 PM »
It better not be Pearson. He wasn't really tolerable as a package which brought 2 well-respected assistants, on his own then you can kiss goodbye to a lot of ST holders renewing.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1928 on: April 04, 2016, 01:27:29 PM »
You are spot on Monty. Teams that can play a bit do much better than the ones who rely on blood guts and thunder. We need someone to build a side that is sustainable.

It just seems to work better long-term, and that's what we seriously lack and need - a long-term actual no-seriously-this-time strategy. So it didn't work out specifically with Garde? Well, the answer must be to go back to playing stupidball. Only we fired the previous manager because his brand of stupidball turned out to be as bad as the previous incumbent's, whose was also as bad as his predecessor's. Why don't we just stop being stupid?

I agree. And there has to be a middle ground option (Moyes IMO) that will bring sustainable but also the hard work and discipline seen as missing from the "interesting" fancy options. It is about a coach having a vision of how to play, how to win, and what tools they need to win but not at the expense of spoiling the game every week to the point of boring the opposition to death, or stifling every aspect of flair for the end result. Howe has shown the perfect way to build at Bournemouth. They play good football and are staying up despite Wilson, Gradel and Mears being out all season pretty much.

Offline VillaAlways

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1929 on: April 04, 2016, 01:27:38 PM »
Have we actually got any evidence that Pearson bullies his players other than speculation from the press.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1930 on: April 04, 2016, 01:34:55 PM »

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1931 on: April 04, 2016, 01:37:17 PM »
You are spot on Monty. Teams that can play a bit do much better than the ones who rely on blood guts and thunder. We need someone to build a side that is sustainable.

It just seems to work better long-term, and that's what we seriously lack and need - a long-term actual no-seriously-this-time strategy. So it didn't work out specifically with Garde? Well, the answer must be to go back to playing stupidball. Only we fired the previous manager because his brand of stupidball turned out to be as bad as the previous incumbent's, whose was also as bad as his predecessor's. Why don't we just stop being stupid?

I agree. And there has to be a middle ground option (Moyes IMO) that will bring sustainable but also the hard work and discipline seen as missing from the "interesting" fancy options. It is about a coach having a vision of how to play, how to win, and what tools they need to win but not at the expense of spoiling the game every week to the point of boring the opposition to death, or stifling every aspect of flair for the end result. Howe has shown the perfect way to build at Bournemouth. They play good football and are staying up despite Wilson, Gradel and Mears being out all season pretty much.

Grayson has been doing what you describe at Preston?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1932 on: April 04, 2016, 01:39:25 PM »
I still think Grayson is a good shout. Said so since Little walked back in the door that he is in with a decent shout.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1933 on: April 04, 2016, 01:42:09 PM »
Grayson would be too much of a gamble though and we can't really afford to take one. 

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1934 on: April 04, 2016, 01:42:31 PM »
I still think Grayson is a good shout. Said so since Little walked back in the door that he is in with a decent shout.


I'm one of 3 who gave him a vote! ;-)

 


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