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Online berneboy

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1890 on: April 04, 2016, 07:42:19 AM »
Except the fickle finger of fate it turning away from Moyes. DW says Moyes' best attribute is that he is not Nigel Pearson.  For me his supreme asset is that he is not Gareth Southgate.

Mathematics has never been my strong suit but I have always been intrigued by the fact that two minuses equal a plus.  With that in mind perhaps Pearson's massively offensive, coarse and belligerent nature would neutralise the massively offensive, coarse and belligerent nature of the dressing room.  The hardcore trouble makers had a field day with thoughtful, intelligent, dignified Remi Garde.  Pearson is as irrational as they are.

The neutralising Pearson factor would not apply if the incoming manager had a clean dressing room but the probability is that contractual and financial constraints will have plenty of bad apples still in the barrel.

I would like Moyes but I don't think he is coming.

Brian, I read all your comments with care and agree with almost every word. You must be a very wise man to agree with me so much!

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1891 on: April 04, 2016, 08:24:17 AM »
Not particularly wise Bernie.  Just very ancient.  I am like the guy they pay to stay away from Las Vegas because he has memorised all 50,000 clips on the horse racing betting machines.   

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1892 on: April 04, 2016, 08:39:11 AM »
My question is more - "if not Moyes, who?"
Pearson: why has he sat out for the last 10 months? Why has he not been picked up by one of the clubs that offloaded a manager this season?
McCarthy: his Sunderland team were relegated with even fewer points than we have this season! His record in the Championship has been okayish, but his record in the PL is dismal.
Southgate: really?! He's got a great Villa pedigree but his managerial record is very weak.
Bruce: he's probably a candidate but - like McCarthy - his record in the PL is pretty meh, and he would not be popular wth fans.

The options beyond Moyes are pretty thin. My shortlist would include Sean Dyche and Mark Pembertion but the former has stated he would probably not move and the latter would be a risk.

It has to be Moyes.

Which only shows how poor generally British manager/coaches are perceived. It is a very small pool of talent we find ourselves fishing in. One point however is that Pemberton would be a real risk as he is now coach at Rhea County- however Warburton at Rangers may be a consideration! It's probably an age thing Mister E.
Ha, ha!! Touche, mon brave!
I did indeed mean the venerable Mr Warburton.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1893 on: April 04, 2016, 08:57:38 AM »
Wrong post

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1894 on: April 04, 2016, 08:59:41 AM »
With 1 possibly 2 of the North East clubs going with us lets get Moyes while they are still scrapping for survival, if either or both of the Toon or Sunderland are relegated im pretty sure their managers will move on and they will make their move for Moyes, we need to act quickly or he will slip away.

Rafa, more than likely but fat Sam may stay as he managed West Ham in the Ch-ship.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1895 on: April 04, 2016, 09:31:49 AM »
Which only shows how poor generally British manager/coaches are perceived. It is a very small pool of talent we find ourselves fishing in.

Hopefully we are fishing in a bigger pool and not limiting our search to British managers.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1896 on: April 04, 2016, 09:36:11 AM »
I'm starting to think that Moyes doesn't want it. He's turned us down, what is it? twice? You can't keep going back to the same person and being turned down. Maybe he's waiting for a different job, doesn't fancy the step back, or just doesn't fancy Villa. maybe warburton at Rangers should be thrown into the mix? Hopefully the new board will see the end of managerial appointments based on trying to be clever and basing it on previous results.

A name I also should be thrown into the mix, and a manager who would be interested but dropping a division would make it a hard sell, is Hughes. He wants to manage a big club again and the longer we wait to appoint a manager the more its probable that we're targetting someone already in situ elsewhere.

Offline VillaAlways

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1897 on: April 04, 2016, 09:36:12 AM »
Which only shows how poor generally British manager/coaches are perceived. It is a very small pool of talent we find ourselves fishing in.

Hopefully we are fishing in a bigger pool and not limiting our search to British managers.
Bernstein has already said he wants an English manager with Premier and Championship experience so the pool is even more limited

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1898 on: April 04, 2016, 09:36:38 AM »
Which only shows how poor generally British manager/coaches are perceived. It is a very small pool of talent we find ourselves fishing in.

Hopefully we are fishing in a bigger pool and not limiting our search to British managers.

I think we will be barred from fishing in that pool after our previous attempts

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1899 on: April 04, 2016, 10:09:52 AM »
I wonder if the English remark from Mr Bernstein was a slip of the tongue. Otherwise the pool is very, very small. I am hoping that he meant British!

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1900 on: April 04, 2016, 10:10:44 AM »
Which only shows how poor generally British manager/coaches are perceived. It is a very small pool of talent we find ourselves fishing in.

Hopefully we are fishing in a bigger pool and not limiting our search to British managers.
Bernstein has already said he wants an English manager with Premier and Championship experience so the pool is even more limited

If he has specifically said English, then I think it'll be either Pearson or Southgate.  I would hope/expect that whoever it is is already appointed , and work has begun behind the scenes to purge this lot.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1901 on: April 04, 2016, 10:16:58 AM »
I could see Southgate having a role overseeing the development of the youth system but wouldn't go near him as a manager in his own right. Perhaps as an assistant manager with someone more experienced in the main job.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1902 on: April 04, 2016, 10:26:45 AM »
I think it will be Pearson given the hints from Bernstein.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1903 on: April 04, 2016, 10:28:14 AM »
I hope he can get Phillips in on the coaching team if it is him.  Someone like him teaching our forwards would be great.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1904 on: April 04, 2016, 10:28:48 AM »
I think it will be Pearson given the hints from Bernstein.
Me too I get the impression they will want someone as soon as we are down, I suspect he's just in the wings waiting

 


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