Manager for next season

[brontebilly]

Aitor Karanka would be my choice.

why?

with the budget he was given this season, Boro should have walked the second division

he nearly walked a few weeks ago when the pressure was getting to him

try a half empty Villa park next season, still forced to play some players despised by the remaining supporters

its going to need a manager with immense character to get us up next season

Allardyce/Sunderland, Benitez/Newcastle, Sheff Wed and Derby have deep pockets too

[supertom]

Defensive first football.
Keep playing the same players regardless of form.
Rigid system.
But Lambert has a better record in division 2.
Failed last 2 appointments unless you think Lambert is a success at Blackburn.
I get why everyone wants Moyes,we are scared and desperate.

Is there anything, anything at all, or anyone, anywhere, that you like?

yes lots of things,can you be more specific?

Boobs? You must like boobs.

[ChicagoLion]

Defensive first football.
Keep playing the same players regardless of form.
Rigid system.
But Lambert has a better record in division 2.
Failed last 2 appointments unless you think Lambert is a success at Blackburn.
I get why everyone wants Moyes,we are scared and desperate.

Is there anything, anything at all, or anyone, anywhere, that you like?

yes lots of things,can you be more specific?

Boobs? You must like boobs.

And you Supertom

[dave.woodhall]

Defensive first football.
Keep playing the same players regardless of form.
Rigid system.
But Lambert has a better record in division 2.
Failed last 2 appointments unless you think Lambert is a success at Blackburn.
I get why everyone wants Moyes,we are scared and desperate.

Is there anything, anything at all, or anyone, anywhere, that you like?

yes lots of things,can you be more specific?

I just wondered.

[VillaAlways]

Moyes has drifted to 3/1 with Pearson as favourite and Bruce second with Skybet

[ozzjim]

It is interesting this idea of defensive and dour football. Apart from 1 season where they averaged jut over a goal a game at home, in nearly every season he was at Everton they were over 1.5 goals on average at home each week, with his last 4-5 seasons edging up over 1.7. In 6 of those seasons they would have been safe from home points alone pretty much, with a further 2 over 30 points in that time. Defensively they were exceptional too.

For all the worry about his style of play, and formations, and being rigid, if he came here it would be a massive coup, because he is a very, very good manager and could be very stabilising in the long term. Any manager that can come in and get us over 30 points a season at home to start with gets my vote.

Going back to the shots think Chicago raised, between 06 and 12, his team averaged over 10 shots at goal per game at home scoring around 33 a season, only dipping below 30 once in that time. By contrast, we only nudged over 30 once in that time. Basically, compared to what we have seen in the last even 10 years, Moyes has done better, with at times less resources, and scored more goals while conceding less doing it. He is 53 in a couple of weeks. If we don't get him this time, we are shooting ourselves in the foot.

[SoccerHQ]

It is interesting this idea of defensive and dour football. Apart from 1 season where they averaged jut over a goal a game at home, in nearly every season he was at Everton they were over 1.5 goals on average at home each week, with his last 4-5 seasons edging up over 1.7. In 6 of those seasons they would have been safe from home points alone pretty much, with a further 2 over 30 points in that time. Defensively they were exceptional too.

For all the worry about his style of play, and formations, and being rigid, if he came here it would be a massive coup, because he is a very, very good manager and could be very stabilising in the long term. Any manager that can come in and get us over 30 points a season at home to start with gets my vote.

It was more Moyes record v other top 6 teams, indeed that stat he never won at Arsenal, Chelsea, Man. United and Liverpool in all his seasons at Everton and it even continued at Man. United.

Still all that is redundant to me, it's not a debate over whether Moyes can manage at the top level or not anymore, it's the second division where he'd comfortably be the best manager operating at.

To me if he wants it you give it to him without question.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I think Moyes is more MON; great motivational manager, clueless tactically. Those worrying about us dropping through the divisions should rest easy as Moyes won't let it happen. We'll be as safe as houses in the Championship.

[brian green]

Except the fickle finger of fate it turning away from Moyes. DW says Moyes' best attribute is that he is not Nigel Pearson.  For me his supreme asset is that he is not Gareth Southgate.

Mathematics has never been my strong suit but I have always been intrigued by the fact that two minuses equal a plus.  With that in mind perhaps Pearson's massively offensive, coarse and belligerent nature would neutralise the massively offensive, coarse and belligerent nature of the dressing room.  The hardcore trouble makers had a field day with thoughtful, intelligent, dignified Remi Garde.  Pearson is as irrational as they are.

The neutralising Pearson factor would not apply if the incoming manager had a clean dressing room but the probability is that contractual and financial constraints will have plenty of bad apples still in the barrel.

I would like Moyes but I don't think he is coming.

[Steve kirk]

With 1 possibly 2 of the North East clubs going with us lets get Moyes while they are still scrapping for survival, if either or both of the Toon or Sunderland are relegated im pretty sure their managers will move on and they will make their move for Moyes, we need to act quickly or he will slip away.

[Mister E]

My question is more - "if not Moyes, who?"
Pearson: why has he sat out for the last 10 months? Why has he not been picked up by one of the clubs that offloaded a manager this season?
McCarthy: his Sunderland team were relegated with even fewer points than we have this season! His record in the Championship has been okayish, but his record in the PL is dismal.
Southgate: really?! He's got a great Villa pedigree but his managerial record is very weak.
Bruce: he's probably a candidate but - like McCarthy - his record in the PL is pretty meh, and he would not be popular wth fans.

The options beyond Moyes are pretty thin. My shortlist would include Sean Dyche and Mark Pembertion but the former has stated he would probably not move and the latter would be a risk.

It has to be Moyes.

[Dante Lavelli]

Moyes for me too.

I'm not unduly worried that he hasn't signed.  I don't think any manager will want to come in until we are relegated and probably until the season is complete.

[Virgil Caine]

My question is more - "if not Moyes, who?"
Pearson: why has he sat out for the last 10 months? Why has he not been picked up by one of the clubs that offloaded a manager this season?
McCarthy: his Sunderland team were relegated with even fewer points than we have this season! His record in the Championship has been okayish, but his record in the PL is dismal.
Southgate: really?! He's got a great Villa pedigree but his managerial record is very weak.
Bruce: he's probably a candidate but - like McCarthy - his record in the PL is pretty meh, and he would not be popular wth fans.

The options beyond Moyes are pretty thin. My shortlist would include Sean Dyche and Mark Pembertion but the former has stated he would probably not move and the latter would be a risk.

It has to be Moyes.

Which only shows how poor generally British manager/coaches are perceived. It is a very small pool of talent we find ourselves fishing in. One point however is that Pemberton would be a real risk as he is now coach at Rhea County- however Warburton at Rangers may be a consideration! It's probably an age thing Mister E.

[sid1964]

I would prefer a manager who is currently looking for a job - Moyes

I don't think with the mess we are in, to have someone who is currently at a club, who when we appoint them says "see you in 4 weeks I am off on my holidays"

We can't afford to waste a day of the break at the end of the season!

The thought of Bruce or McCarthy being our next manager is horrific, and if they appoint either I won't be renewing my season ticket

Bruce spent a fortune to try and keep hull up and failed, mad mick's football is dire

The only name not mentioned so far is Strachan, it will be interesting to see who we get!

[Clampy]

Moyes for me too.

I'm not unduly worried that he hasn't signed.  I don't think any manager will want to come in until we are relegated and probably until the season is complete.

I said the same on Saturday. Garde's only been gone under a week and besides if was Moyes or Pearson, the thought of managing that rabble of players at the moment would put me off.