Manager for next season

[Nunkin1965]

If we have the opportunity to get David Moyes to become our manager then I think it would be a fantastic effort on behalf of the board.

If they manage to "sell" the club to him with all thats occurred then they deserve real credit.

Its going to be a huge challenge for somebody. I hope he wants to take it on.

[KevinGage]

Moyes has a track record of consistently getting a side into the top six over a decade on a limited budget and secured CL qualification.

What is Lambert's track record?

People slate his style of football too, but from about 2009 onwards, that Everton team became far more easy on the eye.

If Moyes is remotely interested, this is one occasion when there really should be just a shortlist of one.

But he would want guarantees and autonomy that a manager of his standing is probably right to expect.  So we'll no doubt opt for a  more malleable candidate.

I am sure he thinks highly of himself too which is why he will want to manage in the premier league next season

You say that - and that was my initial thoughts when his name was mentioned a few weeks back.

But that recent blurb in the more respected papers looked like it was his people letting it be known he might be keen.

There could be a whole host of reasons for that; a good agent will try to deliver as many options as possible to his client and then leave it up to him.  So this could be purely agent driven, with a view to sussing out what we are prepared to offer.  Or with a view to using that as leverage against other interested clubs.

Or Moyes might want so many things in his favour (total control on transfers, four year contract on upper PL wages, with no clause related to cheap pay-offs and zero compensation if a top 10 PL side comes in for him) as to make the whole thing unpalatable to the board.

But if he has lost his senses to the point that he buys into the idea of rebuilding the club from the groundfloor up (because that is what it will take) let's not phuck about on this one.

[b23]

The longer we do not appoint a new manager, the more I reckon it will be Southgate.

I think it will be Southgate too.

[conman]

Moyes has a track record of consistently getting a side into the top six over a decade on a limited budget and secured CL qualification.

What is Lambert's track record?

People slate his style of football too, but from about 2009 onwards, that Everton team became far more easy on the eye.

If Moyes is remotely interested, this is one occasion when there really should be just a shortlist of one.

But he would want guarantees and autonomy that a manager of his standing is probably right to expect.  So we'll no doubt opt for a  more malleable candidate.

I am sure he thinks highly of himself too which is why he will want to manage in the premier league next season

You say that - and that was my initial thoughts when his name was mentioned a few weeks back.

But that recent blurb in the more respected papers looked like it was his people letting it be known he might be keen.

There could be a whole host of reasons for that; a good agent will try to deliver as many options as possible to his client and then leave it up to him.  So this could be purely agent driven, with a view to sussing out what we are prepared to offer.  Or with a view to using that as leverage against other interested clubs.

Or Moyes might want so many things in his favour (total control on transfers, four year contract on upper PL wages, with no clause related to cheap pay-offs and zero compensation if a top 10 PL side comes in for him) as to make the whole thing unpalatable to the board.

But if he has lost his senses to the point that he buys into the idea of rebuilding the club from the groundfloor up (because that is what it will take) let's not phuck about on this one.

All he said in the papers is he wouldnt rule out managing Villa in the Championship . In other words as a last resort if nothing better came up between now and June

[OzVilla]

Everybody thought Lambert was a great choice, because he was at the time. The entire away end sang his name when we played at Norwich in McLeish's last game.

There are plenty of pointy sticks to beat the board with, but I always find it staggering how many fans use the appointment of Lambert as one of them. He was universally well regarded and the vast majority of the fan base was happy to see him come in.

I wanted Lambert too. The problem wasn't his hiring, it was the fact they didn't sack him on the approx 5 occasions previous to when they actually did and threw in a new contract. He was a disaster for us and it was allowed to continue for way, way too long.

[Nunkin1965]

Moyes has a track record of consistently getting a side into the top six over a decade on a limited budget and secured CL qualification.

What is Lambert's track record?

People slate his style of football too, but from about 2009 onwards, that Everton team became far more easy on the eye.

If Moyes is remotely interested, this is one occasion when there really should be just a shortlist of one.

But he would want guarantees and autonomy that a manager of his standing is probably right to expect.  So we'll no doubt opt for a  more malleable candidate.

I am sure he thinks highly of himself too which is why he will want to manage in the premier league next season

You say that - and that was my initial thoughts when his name was mentioned a few weeks back.

But that recent blurb in the more respected papers looked like it was his people letting it be known he might be keen.

There could be a whole host of reasons for that; a good agent will try to deliver as many options as possible to his client and then leave it up to him.  So this could be purely agent driven, with a view to sussing out what we are prepared to offer.  Or with a view to using that as leverage against other interested clubs.

Or Moyes might want so many things in his favour (total control on transfers, four year contract on upper PL wages, with no clause related to cheap pay-offs and zero compensation if a top 10 PL side comes in for him) as to make the whole thing unpalatable to the board.

But if he has lost his senses to the point that he buys into the idea of rebuilding the club from the groundfloor up (because that is what it will take) let's not phuck about on this one.

Good points.

We all hope that he sees the history and magnitude of our great club but we all know its no overnight solution and is this mess really going to appeal to a manager like Moyes.

I keep saying its a great opportunity for someone to reach the heights of some of our great managers but is there an incentive there for managers like Moyes who can work in the top league.

Not sure but lets hope.

[Ian.]

I wonder if Pearson is the man, whether the board will also have some input into his choosing the coaching team. 

If it comes to it and it is Pearson, I hope the coaches, whoever they will be, can actually coach. Since MON left we have been giving away goals in the most ridiculous of ways. In the last 3 years other than relying on Benteke we have no idea how to put the ball in the net.

As a team for so long we look void of any coaching and tactical nous. Concentration levels too. I don't think there has ever been a team I have witnessed who lack concentration near the end of the first 45 and start of the next.

[themossman]

I can't help but feel moyes is wishful thinking on our part, sadly.

If it came down to McCarthy or Pearson I'd have the latter, on the basis that he's unexciting but without the added yesterday's man flavour. But it would be a bit like choosing between being kicked in the balls or punched in the face.

[Steve67]

The longer we do not appoint a new manager, the more I reckon it will be Southgate.

I think it will be Southgate too.

Frying pan-fire springs to mind. No pedigree, no long term management experience in either the Championship or the Premiership. A huge no thank you from me.  File under Monk and Neville.

[itbrvilla]

One of the worries I have with Moyes is he's a carbon copy of Lambert in terms of football philosophy and demeaner, 
I think he could end up being Lambert mk11 with a great fanfare when appointed by the majority of supporters all excited about the prospect only to end up with the same boring repetitive same players picked every week dying a death football

 Sorry , but your Joking Right??

no that's how I see it, Moyes is a very limited manager just like Lambert

How I see him too.

[conman]

One of the worries I have with Moyes is he's a carbon copy of Lambert in terms of football philosophy and demeaner, 
I think he could end up being Lambert mk11 with a great fanfare when appointed by the majority of supporters all excited about the prospect only to end up with the same boring repetitive same players picked every week dying a death football

 Sorry , but your Joking Right??

no that's how I see it, Moyes is a very limited manager just like Lambert

How I see him too.

and me

[Nunkin1965]

He'd be a success for me. He built a strong lower league team at Preston and how about that rock solid home form he had at Everton?

Solid home form. I'll take that please.

[Villan For Life]

One of the worries I have with Moyes is he's a carbon copy of Lambert in terms of football philosophy and demeaner, 
I think he could end up being Lambert mk11 with a great fanfare when appointed by the majority of supporters all excited about the prospect only to end up with the same boring repetitive same players picked every week dying a death football

 Sorry , but your Joking Right??

no that's how I see it, Moyes is a very limited manager just like Lambert

How I see him too.

and me

That's pretty much what Cascarino said in The Times on Thursday. I don't normally agree with that twat but this time I did.

The only thing that is in Moyes favour is that I think he might be better at rebuilding the club from the bottom up. I don't get that impression about many of the other candidates.

[supertom]

He'd be a success for me. He built a strong lower league team at Preston and how about that rock solid home form he had at Everton?

Solid home form. I'll take that please.

Everton have declined after him. One step forward and two steps back. Why? Because they're no longer well organised. What they've acquired in playing talent they've sacrificed in solidity. Occasionally Everton are very nice to watch under Martinez now, when it clicks. In other times they're absolutely dreadful defensively.

What Moyes would give us, is some organisation and a game plan. We might not always be pretty but he'll know how to get the best out of most of his players and he'll be able to identify the system and key players to make us a solid outfit.

I do think Pearson will come in with a lot of fire and gusto and probably kick a few arses to begin with, but in the long run he's too unbalanced. He'll alienate the press, he'll have other clubs wanting to take more pelters from us and he'll be sacked within 18 months. Moyes at least has potential to be long term and begin the process of building something. Likewise we may attract players to the club, even at Champ level, who might otherwise turn their nose up at our "project." If Moyes is here it shows a bit of ambition. I think he suits us and we'll suit him.

[ChicagoLion]

I can see the post match thread now after we fail to win at home to Rotherham and norrowly miss out on a play off place again.
"Why the fuck did he wait until the 85th minute to change it and then why did he take off our most attacking player for Russell Osman."
"Do we really need to play 3 centre backs and 2 defensive midfielders at home to Rotherham"
"4-5-1again at home"
"Only 2 shots on goal again"
Yes can't wait for Moyes reign of misery.