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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1680 on: April 02, 2016, 04:50:00 PM »
Pearson would shake things up massively - he'd soon root out the shirkers and wasters. The Leicester team currently at the top is mainly his team. He got Leicester promoted from the Championship.

Yet he's so shit that he managed to have 'mainly his team' at the bottom of the league for the majority of the season.

But that makes his achivement even greater.  It doesn't matter where they were, only where they finished.  And I think he deserves his fair shar e of credit for their likely title win this season.  I conceed he would be a gamble but one worth taking for me.

Any manager is a gamble. But there is little point taking a gamble on a demonstrably shit manager and a horrendous person to boot.

But tell me how he's a bad manager?  His record at other clubs doesen't back that up for me.

No offence, but you seem to know very little about him apart from that his team won half a dozen matches at the back end of last season.

Offline Gregorys Boy

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1681 on: April 02, 2016, 04:50:20 PM »
This sudden transformation of Leicester City at the back-end of last season that saw the run-in to safety.  Can someone better informed than me explain the changes that made it come about?  What did Leicester do that they hadn't been doing to date? We're there changes in personnel? Were there formation changes? Were there tactical revisions?  I don't know which is why I'm asking.   Were any or all of these changes specifically down to Pearson or had he run out of ideas and took advice from his assistants as a last resort.

If he'd been stubborn enough to persist with his own methods for 29 games before listening to other advice, what makes anyone think he wouldn't do the same with us?  Don't you all think that we've had enough of this shit?  It's something I cannot become immune to.  This is before his arrogant attitude to supporters and media alike come in to question which, is another debate altogether.  I'm trying to be objective here and not let my dislike of him cloud my judgement.

Well excately.  I just think you really have to be anti-Pearson to believe that he deserves no credit for their turn around.  And throughout his career he has been a very consistent manager.  Kept the Saints up when they looked doomed, had two good spells at Lesicter, and wasn't given much of a chance at Hull.  If we can get Moyes then perfect.  If not I'd say Pearson would be a good choice.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1682 on: April 02, 2016, 04:53:59 PM »
If they do appoint him I week think they have made a mistake to go for an unstable man without his support mechanisms. I will also think that the review they have done had been pretty poor considering we have made the same mistake as they have in the past to appoint a manager and not a team.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1683 on: April 02, 2016, 05:01:58 PM »
I for one who have no problem if Pearson is deemed a bully and he deals with the likes of Gabby, Richards, Lescott etc etc

Do we wish to appoint Mr Nice Guy and continue exactly how we are?

Sorry but we need someone nasty to deal with all the crap that we currently have

Like we had with Roy Keane, you mean?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1684 on: April 02, 2016, 05:03:40 PM »
There's a lot of chat here about a manager we haven't yet appointed. I for one have faith in the new board to make the right decision for this club. Let's just wait and see what occurs shall we?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1685 on: April 02, 2016, 05:04:53 PM »
There's a lot of chat here about a manager we haven't yet appointed. I for one have faith in the new board to make the right decision for this club. Let's just wait and see what occurs shall we?

Then what's the point in having a forum for discussing Villa?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1686 on: April 02, 2016, 05:08:51 PM »
What is needed is someone who is principled, strong, adept in man-management with an in-depth knowledge of football.

As my Old man used to say,"wish in one hand and shit in the other.  See what comes first".

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1687 on: April 02, 2016, 05:13:46 PM »
Has anybody watched Brighton this season? No idea how they play but Chris Hughton seems to have preformed miracles there. I doubt we'll wait around to even consider him as he'll either want to stick with Brighton should they get automatic promotion or he'll be involved in the play-offs.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1688 on: April 02, 2016, 05:17:11 PM »
Has anybody watched Brighton this season? No idea how they play but Chris Hughton seems to have preformed miracles there. I doubt we'll wait around to even consider him as he'll either want to stick with Brighton should they get automatic promotion or he'll be involved in the play-offs.

Hughton may have good football qualities but bloody hell he is SUCH a sad arse in his press conferences win or lose I dont think I could take it week after week.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1689 on: April 02, 2016, 05:18:24 PM »
Has anybody watched Brighton this season? No idea how they play but Chris Hughton seems to have preformed miracles there. I doubt we'll wait around to even consider him as he'll either want to stick with Brighton should they get automatic promotion or he'll be involved in the play-offs.

My biggest issue with Hughton is that he appears to be another manager with a very definite ceiling. He gets so far before getting fired from wherever he is. Now if the criteria is lets just get promoted then we have lots of managerial choices. But if it is someone to be at the club for longer than that then managers like Hughton or Bruce probably aren't a good choice.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1690 on: April 02, 2016, 05:21:35 PM »
Pearson was Carlisle manager when they stayed up after their on loan goalie scored that last minute goal.

Offline Tokyo Sexwhale

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1691 on: April 02, 2016, 05:24:04 PM »
If Newcastle go down, we may have competition for Moyes or any other decent manager that may be around.

We need to get someone in this season, and give them a chance to work out who he wants to get rid of and who isn't completely irredeemable.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1692 on: April 02, 2016, 05:31:14 PM »
I'm quite confident they - whoever they are - knows that already. and I agree with you about the Jawdies; if Moyes is in any way a contender let's hope we are already in advanced talks.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1693 on: April 02, 2016, 05:36:37 PM »
Has anybody watched Brighton this season? No idea how they play but Chris Hughton seems to have preformed miracles there. I doubt we'll wait around to even consider him as he'll either want to stick with Brighton should they get automatic promotion or he'll be involved in the play-offs.

My biggest issue with Hughton is that he appears to be another manager with a very definite ceiling. He gets so far before getting fired from wherever he is. Now if the criteria is lets just get promoted then we have lots of managerial choices. But if it is someone to be at the club for longer than that then managers like Hughton or Bruce probably aren't a good choice.

I don't think there's anybody out there that would be willing to take the job that has the capability to be our long term manager.

His managerial record may look like that on paper but apparently having got them promoted, Newcastle fans were furious that Ashley fired him. He managed to get a piss pot club like the Rags into the play-offs but they were so hard up the gave Norwich permission to speak to him. He took them up to 11th in his first season. Even when he left Norwich by mutual consent, they were five points above the relegation zone. Brighton were 21st in the league when he took over. They went on a 21 game unbeaten run this season.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2016, 06:00:22 PM by Rudy Can't Fail »

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1694 on: April 02, 2016, 05:44:02 PM »
Has anybody watched Brighton this season? No idea how they play but Chris Hughton seems to have preformed miracles there. I doubt we'll wait around to even consider him as he'll either want to stick with Brighton should they get automatic promotion or he'll be involved in the play-offs.

My biggest issue with Hughton is that he appears to be another manager with a very definite ceiling. He gets so far before getting fired from wherever he is. Now if the criteria is lets just get promoted then we have lots of managerial choices. But if it is someone to be at the club for longer than that then managers like Hughton or Bruce probably aren't a good choice.

I don't think there's anybody out there that would be willing to take the job that has the capability to be our long term manager.

His managerial record may look like that on paper but apparently having got them promoted, Newcastle fans were furious that Ashley fired him. He managed to get a piss pot club like the Rags into the play-offs but they were so hard up the gave Norwich permission to speak to him. He took them up to 11th in their first season in the PL. Even when he left Norwich by mutual consent, they were five points above the relegation zone. Brighton were 21st in the league when he took over. They went on a 21 game unbeaten run this season.

I agree with you Rudy but I honestly don't think he would countenance a move to us at this juncture.

In the plangent words of 80's song smith Nik Kershaw: "we've got it bad, you don't know bad we've got it; you've got it better, I'd stay right there if were you".

 


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