The first thing I want to see when I take my seat at our first game in the Second Division is team spirit. Villa players not playing for the shirt or the badge or the manager or the fans or the media or the pay packet or the delivery of another new Mercedes but first and foremost playing for EACH OTHER. The other things come as a consequence.
I think a trio of Moyes and the 2 Neville's could work very well
Quote from: olaftab on March 30, 2016, 08:46:32 PMQuote from: ciggiesnbeer on March 30, 2016, 06:32:15 PMPat Murphy is a grade A Villa hating twat. Thank fuck we wont get any attention from him in the Championship and might get assigned a competent reporter from the BBC.I do not think he hates Villa on the contrary he feels as frustrated as we do on Quote from: Pat McMahon on March 30, 2016, 10:34:46 PMQuote from: olaftab on March 30, 2016, 08:46:32 PMQuote from: ciggiesnbeer on March 30, 2016, 06:32:15 PMPat Murphy is a grade A Villa hating twat. Thank fuck we wont get any attention from him in the Championship and might get assigned a competent reporter from the BBC.I do not think he hates Villa on the contrary he feels as frustrated as we do on lack of success. He calls it as he sees it. I rate his opinion.That is my take on him too. He generally says what many of us on here say, only more eloquently.Interestingly, Henry Winter was calling us a world class club / one of the great clubs in world football on 5Live earlier tonight.Interestingly, Henry Winter was calling us a world class club / one of the great clubs in world football on 5Live earlier tonight.Henry Winter did indeed say that. However, he also said that Pearson was the man...
Quote from: ciggiesnbeer on March 30, 2016, 06:32:15 PMPat Murphy is a grade A Villa hating twat. Thank fuck we wont get any attention from him in the Championship and might get assigned a competent reporter from the BBC.I do not think he hates Villa on the contrary he feels as frustrated as we do on Quote from: Pat McMahon on March 30, 2016, 10:34:46 PMQuote from: olaftab on March 30, 2016, 08:46:32 PMQuote from: ciggiesnbeer on March 30, 2016, 06:32:15 PMPat Murphy is a grade A Villa hating twat. Thank fuck we wont get any attention from him in the Championship and might get assigned a competent reporter from the BBC.I do not think he hates Villa on the contrary he feels as frustrated as we do on lack of success. He calls it as he sees it. I rate his opinion.That is my take on him too. He generally says what many of us on here say, only more eloquently.Interestingly, Henry Winter was calling us a world class club / one of the great clubs in world football on 5Live earlier tonight.Interestingly, Henry Winter was calling us a world class club / one of the great clubs in world football on 5Live earlier tonight.
Pat Murphy is a grade A Villa hating twat. Thank fuck we wont get any attention from him in the Championship and might get assigned a competent reporter from the BBC.
Quote from: olaftab on March 30, 2016, 08:46:32 PMQuote from: ciggiesnbeer on March 30, 2016, 06:32:15 PMPat Murphy is a grade A Villa hating twat. Thank fuck we wont get any attention from him in the Championship and might get assigned a competent reporter from the BBC.I do not think he hates Villa on the contrary he feels as frustrated as we do on lack of success. He calls it as he sees it. I rate his opinion.That is my take on him too. He generally says what many of us on here say, only more eloquently.Interestingly, Henry Winter was calling us a world class club / one of the great clubs in world football on 5Live earlier tonight.
Quote from: ciggiesnbeer on March 30, 2016, 06:32:15 PMPat Murphy is a grade A Villa hating twat. Thank fuck we wont get any attention from him in the Championship and might get assigned a competent reporter from the BBC.I do not think he hates Villa on the contrary he feels as frustrated as we do on lack of success. He calls it as he sees it. I rate his opinion.
I worry if Moyes can get Villa promotedClub must stand tall and rediscover their worthTony CascarinoMarch 31 2016, 1:01am, The TimesMoyes could become a big fish in the Championship pondAston Villa have a fantastic chance to reshape the club for the next two decades. My advice to my old club? Remember who you are and don’t underestimate yourself. Remember your stature and standing.Look beyond managers that are flavour of the month or act like they are doing you a favour to replace Rémi Garde, who finally left this week. The next manager must be right.Villa will be a big target next season, the Manchester United of the ChampionshipHe must earn the right to be at Villa for a long time rather than be handed a lengthy deal that potentially takes the club back to square one if things go pear-shaped. He needs to have a point to prove to Villa and be prepared to roll up his sleeves in the trenches. There is no better job available for a manager at present, even though Villa are destined for the drop.I’ve heard it said that Villa could follow Bolton Wanderers and slide even farther down the ladder. Nonsense.Villa have the potential to run away with the Championship but need to send a clear message. They need to be forceful, show the right mentality, fight and do the right things.Brian Little has the brief to find the right manager. He was a manager at Darlington and Leicester City, which should teach him the value of thinking outside the box. Look down the leagues, Brian. Do your homework, be open-minded.Don’t just come up with names that are floating around or will appease fans. Be brave, listen to your gut feeling. Go with your convictions and be convinced you have the right man even if things have not worked out for him elsewhere.Every manager comes with baggage — even David Moyes and Nigel Pearson, the early favourites who have enjoyed success but come with no guarantees. They will have demands on their contracts, transfer budgets, staff and recruitment policy and players.Pearson’s standing has grown through what Leicester have achieved this season. It is pretty incredible that he has not been employed already, which raises the question, “Why?”He was involved in the network that took cheap and unknown players to Leicester. They made them better. He has a point to prove. He is a maverick and I like mavericks as they can do something special. I watched his side draw 0-0 with Hull City a year ago. They didn’t look like scoring and draws were not enough to survive. A light switched on in his head and, from then on, they played in an aggressive way.Pearson recognised what it took to stay up. If Villa give him a chance it must be to show that what he did was not a fluke and that he can make Villa great.And the West Midlands club must say to him: “Here is a two-year contract — prove that you can get it right on the pitch and with your recruitment.”My slight worry with Moyes is that his teams are too conservative. Villa will be a big target next season, the Manchester United of the Championship. They need to be aggressive and adventurous. David’s style is to grind sides down. I don’t know if David can be the big fish in that league. Being conservative does not fit Villa. And he could be very expensive. The ailing club have to get away from paying top dollar for managers.I like Chris Wilder at Northampton Town. He has done an unbelievable job, fought against administration and plays an adventurous style. Villa should have a chat with him and similar others. The Championship is not suitable for a foreign appointment, regardless of what Aitor Karanka has done at Middlesbrough.Candidates Words by Danial KennedyMick McCarthy (8/1) In his favour: McCarthy is one of the more experienced managers in the English game having proven himself at both club and international level. A no-nonsense candidate who can get the best out of his players, as he continues to prove at Ipswich Town. Drawbacks: McCarthy has been shown up previously in the top flight. He was relegated with Sunderland in 2005-06 with a points tally of 15 although he stayed up with Wolverhampton Wanderers’ in 2009-10. Promotion potential: Promoted from the second tier twice with Sunderland in 2004-05 and Wolverhampton Wanderers in 2008-09Nigel Pearson (3/1) In his favour: Pearson is a frontrunner and another experienced manager in the lower leagues spending eight of his nine managerial seasons below the English top flight. Like McCarthy he can get the best out of an underwhelming group of players. He laid the groundwork for Leicester City’s meteoric rise.Drawbacks: Pearson may have Premier League ambitions after the sudden sacking from the King Power at the end of last season and his attitudes problems could bring unwanted baggage to an already toxic atmosphere.Promotion potential: Won the League One title with Leicester in 2008-09 and the Championship title in 2013-14. Also reached the play-offs in 2009-10 and 2012-13.David Moyes (4/6) In his favour: Moyes has a burning ambition to remind people of the managerial credentials that he earned during his 11 years at Everton before the unhappy tenure at Manchester United. Drawbacks: Lacks the promotion experience of other candidates with just the one title to his name and after the failures at Old Trafford and with Real Sociedad, the pressure of rebuilding Villa could be too much to handle.Promotion potential: Got Preston North End promoted from the second division in the 1999-2000 seasonSteve Bruce (8/1) In his favour: Bruce is one of the most experienced managers in the country and his managerial career has thrived in the English lower leagues. He led Hull City, his current employers, to promotion in his first season.Drawbacks: Has been involved with troubled clubs on previous occasions but hasn’t always shone when the going gets tough. And with Hull on verge of promotion, it is unlikely that he would want to make the step back down.Promotion potential: Has been promoted to the Premier League on three separate occasions, twice with Birmingham City (2002 & 2006-07) and once with Hull City (2012-13)Sean Dyche (20/1) In his favour: Dyche has emerged as one of the bright, young managers in the country and his fresh ideas have taken Burnley to the brink of a return to the English top-flight.Drawbacks: He is still quite new to the managerial game and with the rise of Burnley, a potential move to Villa Park could be seen as a step backwards for his career.Promotion potential: Led Burnley to the top-flight in his first full season at Turf Moor as they finished runners-up in 2013-14
Quote from: brian green on March 31, 2016, 08:03:51 AM The first thing I want to see when I take my seat at our first game in the Second Division is team spirit. Villa players not playing for the shirt or the badge or the manager or the fans or the media or the pay packet or the delivery of another new Mercedes but first and foremost playing for EACH OTHER. The other things come as a consequence.I was listening to the Villa crisis special on 'Call me Franksey' on Tuesday which included the likes of Nigel Spink and Howard Hodgson and Spink said that the main thing that got them promoted last time round was the team spirit. One of Sir Graham's first signings, if I remember correctly, was Steve Sims. To put it kindly, not the greatest player to ever put on a Villa shirt but he was just what we needed at the time. Sir Graham knew the kind of character he was getting. We'll be needing a few more of those again.
Cascarino in today's Times:QuoteI worry if Moyes can get Villa promotedClub must stand tall and rediscover their worthTony CascarinoMarch 31 2016, 1:01am, The TimesMoyes could become a big fish in the Championship pondAston Villa have a fantastic chance to reshape the club for the next two decades. My advice to my old club? Remember who you are and don’t underestimate yourself. Remember your stature and standing.Look beyond managers that are flavour of the month or act like they are doing you a favour to replace Rémi Garde, who finally left this week. The next manager must be right.Villa will be a big target next season, the Manchester United of the ChampionshipHe must earn the right to be at Villa for a long time rather than be handed a lengthy deal that potentially takes the club back to square one if things go pear-shaped. He needs to have a point to prove to Villa and be prepared to roll up his sleeves in the trenches. There is no better job available for a manager at present, even though Villa are destined for the drop.I’ve heard it said that Villa could follow Bolton Wanderers and slide even farther down the ladder. Nonsense.Villa have the potential to run away with the Championship but need to send a clear message. They need to be forceful, show the right mentality, fight and do the right things.Brian Little has the brief to find the right manager. He was a manager at Darlington and Leicester City, which should teach him the value of thinking outside the box. Look down the leagues, Brian. Do your homework, be open-minded.Don’t just come up with names that are floating around or will appease fans. Be brave, listen to your gut feeling. Go with your convictions and be convinced you have the right man even if things have not worked out for him elsewhere.Every manager comes with baggage — even David Moyes and Nigel Pearson, the early favourites who have enjoyed success but come with no guarantees. They will have demands on their contracts, transfer budgets, staff and recruitment policy and players.Pearson’s standing has grown through what Leicester have achieved this season. It is pretty incredible that he has not been employed already, which raises the question, “Why?”He was involved in the network that took cheap and unknown players to Leicester. They made them better. He has a point to prove. He is a maverick and I like mavericks as they can do something special. I watched his side draw 0-0 with Hull City a year ago. They didn’t look like scoring and draws were not enough to survive. A light switched on in his head and, from then on, they played in an aggressive way.Pearson recognised what it took to stay up. If Villa give him a chance it must be to show that what he did was not a fluke and that he can make Villa great.And the West Midlands club must say to him: “Here is a two-year contract — prove that you can get it right on the pitch and with your recruitment.”My slight worry with Moyes is that his teams are too conservative. Villa will be a big target next season, the Manchester United of the Championship. They need to be aggressive and adventurous. David’s style is to grind sides down. I don’t know if David can be the big fish in that league. Being conservative does not fit Villa. And he could be very expensive. The ailing club have to get away from paying top dollar for managers.I like Chris Wilder at Northampton Town. He has done an unbelievable job, fought against administration and plays an adventurous style. Villa should have a chat with him and similar others. The Championship is not suitable for a foreign appointment, regardless of what Aitor Karanka has done at Middlesbrough.Candidates Words by Danial KennedyMick McCarthy (8/1) In his favour: McCarthy is one of the more experienced managers in the English game having proven himself at both club and international level. A no-nonsense candidate who can get the best out of his players, as he continues to prove at Ipswich Town. Drawbacks: McCarthy has been shown up previously in the top flight. He was relegated with Sunderland in 2005-06 with a points tally of 15 although he stayed up with Wolverhampton Wanderers’ in 2009-10. Promotion potential: Promoted from the second tier twice with Sunderland in 2004-05 and Wolverhampton Wanderers in 2008-09Nigel Pearson (3/1) In his favour: Pearson is a frontrunner and another experienced manager in the lower leagues spending eight of his nine managerial seasons below the English top flight. Like McCarthy he can get the best out of an underwhelming group of players. He laid the groundwork for Leicester City’s meteoric rise.Drawbacks: Pearson may have Premier League ambitions after the sudden sacking from the King Power at the end of last season and his attitudes problems could bring unwanted baggage to an already toxic atmosphere.Promotion potential: Won the League One title with Leicester in 2008-09 and the Championship title in 2013-14. Also reached the play-offs in 2009-10 and 2012-13.David Moyes (4/6) In his favour: Moyes has a burning ambition to remind people of the managerial credentials that he earned during his 11 years at Everton before the unhappy tenure at Manchester United. Drawbacks: Lacks the promotion experience of other candidates with just the one title to his name and after the failures at Old Trafford and with Real Sociedad, the pressure of rebuilding Villa could be too much to handle.Promotion potential: Got Preston North End promoted from the second division in the 1999-2000 seasonSteve Bruce (8/1) In his favour: Bruce is one of the most experienced managers in the country and his managerial career has thrived in the English lower leagues. He led Hull City, his current employers, to promotion in his first season.Drawbacks: Has been involved with troubled clubs on previous occasions but hasn’t always shone when the going gets tough. And with Hull on verge of promotion, it is unlikely that he would want to make the step back down.Promotion potential: Has been promoted to the Premier League on three separate occasions, twice with Birmingham City (2002 & 2006-07) and once with Hull City (2012-13)Sean Dyche (20/1) In his favour: Dyche has emerged as one of the bright, young managers in the country and his fresh ideas have taken Burnley to the brink of a return to the English top-flight.Drawbacks: He is still quite new to the managerial game and with the rise of Burnley, a potential move to Villa Park could be seen as a step backwards for his career.Promotion potential: Led Burnley to the top-flight in his first full season at Turf Moor as they finished runners-up in 2013-14
I know he's not a popular figure but I'd love to see Joey Barton getting stuck into the likes of Agbonlahor and Richards, Moyes as manager with Barton as his 'enforcer' on the pitch. I might have just created a new role, 'Director of enforcing'.
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