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Offline oldtimernow

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #915 on: March 21, 2016, 05:04:52 PM »
I can't think of a single example in English football where a Director of Football model has worked. Plenty of disasters though (Liverpool, Leeds, Newcastle).

I don't want us to go down that route, I would just like a good manager, with a chairman that backs them where appropriate and reigns in spending where necessary (this is what didn't happen with MON in latter years). Looking at some of the linked names:

I wasn't keen on Pearson, but having seen what Leicester fans say about him I am coming round to the idea.

I don't dislike Bruce, limited as he is he can certainly manage a mid budget Championship team through promotion and has done so at multiple clubs. Not inspiring, but in the absence of an open chequebook nobody inspiring is likely to join us.

I definitely do not want the Anderlecht coach we have been linked with. Too much like a cheap risky option ala Garde, which has not worked out.

Di Matteo is a big no (linked in the Evening mail).

Clarke is a big no (linked in the Evening Mail).

Dyche could be OK, has certainly done well where he is.

Would like Eddie Howe, who is in a similar position to GT when he left a better run smaller club (Watford) for an opportunity to work with a basket case recently relegated Villa. You never know.

Grayson could be decent appointment.

At least we haven't been linked with Holloway or Warnock yet.

Whatever happens Garde has to go. He was dealt a shit hand by the board, but regardless of that he is unable to work with the squad we have, and anyone managing us next year will have to work predominantly with existing players minus all the best ones. Garde patently obviously can't do that, so is dead man walking now.

that is the real doomsday scenario in my opinion

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #916 on: March 21, 2016, 05:07:14 PM »
My thoughts exactly oldtimer.

Offline peter w

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #917 on: March 21, 2016, 05:16:48 PM »
I couldn't support a team managed by Pearson. Regardless of what he might be able to get out of our players, having someone that left his last job following a racist sex tape (not to mention having pinned down an opposition player by the throat, threatening journalists and all the other aggressive 'banter' from him last season) in charge of the Villa genuinely makes me think it's not worth it. I've always loved Villa because, no matter how crap we are on the pitch, we tend to do the right thing off it. If we go down the route of employing people like Pearson, any success would be so hollow. That's assuming there would be any, which is a completely different debate.

This probably sounds very 'holier than thou' and I can fully understand people thinking me incredibly pretentious for this, but how the club conducts itself has always meant more to me than results. Pearson is a nasty piece of work that should not be even considered for any job at the club. I'd rather watch us in the conference.

And it will be a cold day in hell when I take the advice of a Leicester fan about anything other than where to buy ridiculous clappy plastic pieces of shit.

Righto.

Offline SamTheMouse

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #918 on: March 21, 2016, 05:17:53 PM »
I think a clear-out suddenly becomes easier when you're dropping down a division, provided there are relegation clauses with commensurate wage cuts.

So hopefully we will be starting next season with a new-look side.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #919 on: March 21, 2016, 05:18:12 PM »
I would ask him how much he wants and get Bielsa. Perfect to set the standard over the next 2-3 years, plays decent football and is that batshit mental would have the character to marmalise the malcontents in the dressing room.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #920 on: March 21, 2016, 05:18:43 PM »
Pearson is the only sensible option

I don't think that is very sensible, he's a tool and an Ostrich

He's not an ostrich, he hasn't got his head in the sand. Have you got your head in the sand?

Following Leicester’s 0-0 draw with Hull, Pearson was riled when a reporter asked him whether his team were “waxing” or waning” in the relegation run-in. “I don’t have to use that sort of analogy,” he responded. “We are in the same position. We’ve got ten games left, six games at home, and our home form has to be drastically improved for us to give ourselves the best chance. That’s it. You got any more questions you want to ask? Obviously not.” Pearson can then clearly be heard saying: “’Waxing or waning?’, fucking hell. My arse,” before getting up and appearing to utter the word: “Prick.”

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/30/nigel-pearson-rant-full-leicester

Sounds a lot like Ron Saunders to be honest

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #921 on: March 21, 2016, 05:22:41 PM »
Pearson is the only sensible option

I don't think that is very sensible, he's a tool and an Ostrich

He's not an ostrich, he hasn't got his head in the sand. Have you got your head in the sand?

Following Leicester’s 0-0 draw with Hull, Pearson was riled when a reporter asked him whether his team were “waxing” or waning” in the relegation run-in. “I don’t have to use that sort of analogy,” he responded. “We are in the same position. We’ve got ten games left, six games at home, and our home form has to be drastically improved for us to give ourselves the best chance. That’s it. You got any more questions you want to ask? Obviously not.” Pearson can then clearly be heard saying: “’Waxing or waning?’, fucking hell. My arse,” before getting up and appearing to utter the word: “Prick.”

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/30/nigel-pearson-rant-full-leicester

Sounds a lot like Ron Saunders to be honest

There's a few Villa fans who'd love it if he'd said that to Pat Murphy.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #922 on: March 21, 2016, 05:23:02 PM »
Whatever happens Garde has to go. He was dealt a shit hand by the board, but regardless of that he is unable to work with the squad we have, and anyone managing us next year will have to work predominantly with existing players minus all the best ones.

I think thats right, but I also do not think that is really such a disaster. Many of these players are decent or even good Championship players, hell some of them have been "ok" premier league players at various points.

They were unlucky, poorly managed, low on confidence, then told week after week by their boss that they were shite. I imagine thats taken a toll. A new start in a new league could get many of them back to a decent bit of form in the Championship.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #923 on: March 21, 2016, 05:28:06 PM »
I would ask him how much he wants and get Bielsa. Perfect to set the standard over the next 2-3 years, plays decent football and is that batshit mental would have the character to marmalise the malcontents in the dressing room.

We can but dream.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #924 on: March 21, 2016, 05:30:23 PM »
I would ask him how much he wants and get Bielsa. Perfect to set the standard over the next 2-3 years, plays decent football and is that batshit mental would have the character to marmalise the malcontents in the dressing room.

We can but dream.

Would be my first choice by a long way. A genuine football innovator. His teams play some lovely lovely stuff.

Offline brian green

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #925 on: March 21, 2016, 05:33:06 PM »
If Bielsa comes we really must get him a seat.  All that squatting in the technical area is very louche.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #926 on: March 21, 2016, 05:34:43 PM »
He doesn't need a huge budget either and us happy to try to turn around failing clubs. He would probably have Gabby tarmaced into the BMH car park before he completed his first week.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #927 on: March 21, 2016, 05:34:53 PM »
If Bielsa comes we really must get him a seat.  All that squatting in the technical area is very louche.

No need for a seat, he can sit on Micah Richards.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #928 on: March 21, 2016, 05:35:28 PM »
Whatever happens Garde has to go. He was dealt a shit hand by the board, but regardless of that he is unable to work with the squad we have, and anyone managing us next year will have to work predominantly with existing players minus all the best ones.

I think thats right, but I also do not think that is really such a disaster. Many of these players are decent or even good Championship players, hell some of them have been "ok" premier league players at various points.

They were unlucky, poorly managed, low on confidence, then told week after week by their boss that they were shite. I imagine thats taken a toll. A new start in a new league could get many of them back to a decent bit of form in the Championship.

Agree, and that is why Garde has to go. Nice bloke, but not able to manage that set of players.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #929 on: March 21, 2016, 05:51:37 PM »
Pearson is the only sensible option

I don't think that is very sensible, he's a tool and an Ostrich

He's not an ostrich, he hasn't got his head in the sand. Have you got your head in the sand?

Following Leicester’s 0-0 draw with Hull, Pearson was riled when a reporter asked him whether his team were “waxing” or waning” in the relegation run-in. “I don’t have to use that sort of analogy,” he responded. “We are in the same position. We’ve got ten games left, six games at home, and our home form has to be drastically improved for us to give ourselves the best chance. That’s it. You got any more questions you want to ask? Obviously not.” Pearson can then clearly be heard saying: “’Waxing or waning?’, fucking hell. My arse,” before getting up and appearing to utter the word: “Prick.”

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/30/nigel-pearson-rant-full-leicester

Sounds a lot like Ron Saunders to be honest

and that is exactly what I would be thinking. But I would have used a stronger word than prick.

 


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