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Offline Ads

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #345 on: March 10, 2016, 08:13:40 PM »
Garde has been shafted by the board and a malignant core of players who been corroding the club with their subs par efforts for years.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #346 on: March 10, 2016, 08:21:51 PM »
Still dont want a British manager but if we did then Pearson/ Rodgers would be fine by me. Both are nutcases but are actually good managers. Bonus points for Pearson is he may humiliate that villa hating twat Pat Murphy again. I would be very happy to see that.

Yep because the foreign managers we've had have been brilliant for us!!

Quite. 

Those happy with Garde.  What has the guy done to convince you he's the man?

It's got jack to do with foreign / uk.  More about a handful of points in 4 months.

Honest answer?

A.) He is bringing terrible results.
B.) He has not been backed .
C.) Is not a delusional fuckwit in his press conferences.

Our previous 3 British managers have done A.) but do not have the positives or excuses of B&C .

I also am pretty bigoted against British managers. As a group they are just out of date and seem to need to be dragged to a progressive footballing style. This maybe unfair but it is my impression.





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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #347 on: March 10, 2016, 09:37:09 PM »
Still dont want a British manager but if we did then Pearson/ Rodgers would be fine by me. Both are nutcases but are actually good managers. Bonus points for Pearson is he may humiliate that villa hating twat Pat Murphy again. I would be very happy to see that.

Yep because the foreign managers we've had have been brilliant for us!!

Quite. 

Those happy with Garde.  What has the guy done to convince you he's the man?

It's got jack to do with foreign / uk.  More about a handful of points in 4 months.

Honest answer?

A.) He is bringing terrible results.
B.) He has not been backed .
C.) Is not a delusional fuckwit in his press conferences.

Our previous 3 British managers have done A.) but do not have the positives or excuses of B&C .

I also am pretty bigoted against British managers. As a group they are just out of date and seem to need to be dragged to a progressive footballing style. This maybe unfair but it is my impression.






Bigoted against British managers?  'As a group'...?  You are being unfair. 

That Garde sounds urbane in interviews and was (undoubtedly) thrown under the bus in January, doesn't excuse the dross he has presided over.  I was more convinced (albeit extremely fleetingly) with Sherwood.  And that is saying something.

To be honest, I'm sick of hearing how nothing will change til Randy sells up.  Him and his incompetence is clearly the root cause of our woes, but Garde is the worst manager we've had for a log time, at least results wise.  He might well be a success elsewhere, but for Villa?  No way.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #348 on: March 10, 2016, 10:49:07 PM »
Stan Collymores tweeting something about Steve Bruce next season. Rather keep Garde myself.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #349 on: March 10, 2016, 10:54:38 PM »
They haven't done badly for lots of other teams. Past performances of Villa managers should have no impact on who we appoint.

So have a lot of the British managers we have had.  Therefore I agree with your second point, British or not.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #350 on: March 10, 2016, 11:03:23 PM »
I can see the logic of getting Bruce in. He is long departed Blues, and usually has a decent 2-3 year period. Hull went down due to not scoring enough goals last season but were decent at the back, he would get us organised and has as good a chance as anyone at being a safe pair of hands to come back up. He would be sensible for where we are, although pretty uninspiring. Maybe sensible is what we need for a while.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #351 on: March 10, 2016, 11:06:18 PM »
Why would he leave Hull probably in premier league?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #352 on: March 10, 2016, 11:10:12 PM »
Would prefer Moyes but ok with Steve Bruce. Done a good job generally wherever he's been, good with Blues, very good with Wigan, ok with Sunderland, got Hull punching above their weight. Can he manage a big club?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #353 on: March 10, 2016, 11:25:29 PM »
Here's one for the mix, he definitely knows the championship, Billy Davies.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35780942

Whenever he has managed a side in the English Championship for a full season, Davies has never failed to at least steer them into the play-offs.
In the same league, he has never failed to reach the 79-point mark, and nobody has won more manager of the month awards in the Championship. He broke long-standing club records at Nottingham Forest, Derby and Preston, the three sides he has managed in England.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #354 on: March 10, 2016, 11:35:08 PM »
He also seemed to go a bit mental during his last Forest stint. From Wiki, not sure how he'd cope with the pressure down B6.

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Davies' second spell proved to be a controversial and damaging one. He sacked long-serving club staff without explanation, shouting at a photographer taking photos for the club's matchday programme after a match at Millwall, banning journalists issuing a "near media blackout" and employing his cousin, Jim Price, a suspended solicitor, as his closest advisor.[26][27]

After an eight-game winless run leaving Nottingham Forest one place and two points outside of the play-off positions and having seen his side lose 5-0 to local rivals Derby County on 22 March, he was sacked on 24 March 2014. A statement on Forest's website read "Nottingham Forest Football Club have confirmed the termination of manager Billy Davies' employment.[28][29]

Louise Taylor of The Guardian pointed to Davies' "paranoia", "self-destructive insecurities" and "obsession with conspiracy theories and old grudges" as the reasons behind his downfall, suggesting that he had "shattered" his reputation.[30] The Daily Telegraph's John Percy, who was one of a number of reporters who were "accused of being in league with his former employers" for questioning decisions Davies made, said that Davies was "destined for failure" because he was "obsessed" with conspiracies and hidden agendas. He pointed to the "huge funds" Davies was given to get Forest promoted and suggested that he "could have got away with" the "unsavoury" behaviour, had Forest been winning.[31] John Payne of The Metro said that Davies owed the Forest fans an apology for his behaviour after failing to acknowledge them at the end of the defeat to Derby and "insulted fans' intelligence" by refusing to answer straight questions on the rare occasion he gave press interviews

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #355 on: March 10, 2016, 11:37:46 PM »
They haven't done badly for lots of other teams. Past performances of Villa managers should have no impact on who we appoint.

So have a lot of the British managers we have had.  Therefore I agree with your second point, British or not.

Well, quite. But that contradicts your initial point.

Yep because the foreign managers we've had have been brilliant for us!!

If you agree that past managers' performances shouldn't affect our decision on whether to appoint a British/foreign manager, why draw attention to past deficiencies of two or three men out of the seven billion or so non-British people in the World?
« Last Edit: March 10, 2016, 11:44:39 PM by cdbullyweefan »

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #356 on: March 11, 2016, 12:03:52 AM »
Here's one for the mix, he definitely knows the championship, Billy Davies.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35780942

Whenever he has managed a side in the English Championship for a full season, Davies has never failed to at least steer them into the play-offs.
In the same league, he has never failed to reach the 79-point mark, and nobody has won more manager of the month awards in the Championship. He broke long-standing club records at Nottingham Forest, Derby and Preston, the three sides he has managed in England.

Davies is a truly odious character, after his antics at Forest second time around he really should never be given a management position again

Sign him up

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #357 on: March 11, 2016, 12:20:20 AM »
Why would he leave Hull probably in premier league?

Had quite a bit of money to spend last time Hull were up as well. 

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #358 on: March 11, 2016, 12:24:10 AM »
It's difficult to be a brilliant author and a successful football manager at the same time.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #359 on: March 11, 2016, 06:34:00 AM »
No way to Billy Davies. He's nuts.

 


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