Manager for next season

[PeterWithesShin]

If they had a manager or player worth having it would amuse me even more if we just clicked our fingers and took him from them. McLeish however wasn't worth having. Everyone bar a handful of people knew that at the time, unfortunately they were the ones that had the power to appoint him. It remains one of the most ridiculous decisions in our history.

[Jimbo]

The overly negative reaction was because he was a shit bluenose. If he'd been a brilliant bluenose we'd have been doubly delighted to take him off their hands.

Only dim knuckledraggers and sensationalist hacks don't seem to get it.

[dave.woodhall]

It wasn't who or what he was - he came from them and that was all that mattered to some of our supporters.

[Jimbo]

I can't talk for everybody, but it stands to reason. If your despised neighbour dumps horseshit on your lawn you'd be unhappy, but especially so because it was him who dumped it - he was getting rid of something bad. If he dropped a thick envelope of used £50 notes on your drive, you'd swipe it for yourself, and be especially delighted because it was your despised neighbour's money - he'd lost something good.

Again, would any of those supporters have turned their noses up at Pep Guardiola?

This one really boils.

[dave.woodhall]

All I can do is repeat what I heard - some didn't want him because of his lack of ability, some (I've no idea how many but the existed) because of where he came from.

[Clampy]

It wasn't who or what he was - he came from them and that was all that mattered to some of our supporters.

I do personally think that the majority of the fans who went down to VP and protested did so for that reason. Gary Rowett wouldn't be accepted by some either despite the reasonable job he's done.

[Jimbo]

But context is everything here. What comes out of a pissed off football fan's mouth in anger won't always be a fully reasoned or nuanced argument. Sometimes it'll be "Fuk off bloonose small eaf skum." They might not be bright enough to articulate their disapproval. But it simply is not just about where he came from. Football doesn't work like that and neither does human nature.

To further illustrate the point, at the time I met a knuckledragger who literally did a jig of joy at McLeish going to Villa. That jig encapsulated everything that was galling about the appointment for Villa fans. We were taking their shit off their hands, they were delighted. Now, if we'd taken Pep Guardiola off them, it would have been me doing a dance.

This annoys me because it was spun by sensationalist press, and serves the knuckledragger view that we're obsessed with them to the point that we wouldn't take a manager off them, regardless of his capabilities. It's total horseshit.   

[DB]

It's because McLeish was shit. The fact that he was knuckledragger shit just compounded matters. If Pep Guardiola was a knuckledragger, does any bright spark out there think we'd turn our noses up at him?

Yep, the fact he got a team relegated was the issue for me. We rewarded failure and put him in charge at our club.

[Jimbo]

It's because McLeish was shit. The fact that he was knuckledragger shit just compounded matters. If Pep Guardiola was a knuckledragger, does any bright spark out there think we'd turn our noses up at him?

Yep, the fact he got a team relegated was the issue for me. We rewarded failure and put him in charge at our club.

Correct. And how would you have felt if, in some parallel universe, we'd taken Pep off them, and he'd bought his best mates Lionel Messi and Andres Iniesta with him?

[Dave]

It's because McLeish was shit. The fact that he was knuckledragger shit just compounded matters. If Pep Guardiola was a knuckledragger, does any bright spark out there think we'd turn our noses up at him?

Yep, the fact he got a team relegated was the issue for me. We rewarded failure and put him in charge at our club.

Although Everton also rewarded Martinez for making Wigan gradually worse and eventually relegating them.

[KevinGage]

That, and the timely compo payment to Blose - £2 million wasn't it?   At a time when they were facing receivership and mulling over sacking him anyway.

[PaulWinch again]

It wasn't who or what he was - he came from them and that was all that mattered to some of our supporters.

I do personally think that the majority of the fans who went down to VP and protested did so for that reason. Gary Rowett wouldn't be accepted by some either despite the reasonable job he's done.

Yep but you're always going to have some idiots. I don't care where a manager comes from it's their ability that matters.

[Marlon From Bearwood]

It's because McLeish was shit. The fact that he was knuckledragger shit just compounded matters. If Pep Guardiola was a knuckledragger, does any bright spark out there think we'd turn our noses up at him?

Yep, the fact he got a team relegated was the issue for me. We rewarded failure and put him in charge at our club.

Exactly. For what it's worth I'd be happy with Rowett this summer. He probably wouldn't be my first choice but we could do a lot worse.

[Ron Manager]

It doesn't really matter if we change manager for the next campaign. It will be exactly the same because Lerner and Hollis will keep a tight hold on the purse strings and the players we want rid of will still be there picking up their fat wage packets.

How can it be any different.

[Jimbo]

It wasn't who or what he was - he came from them and that was all that mattered to some of our supporters.

I do personally think that the majority of the fans who went down to VP and protested did so for that reason. Gary Rowett wouldn't be accepted by some either despite the reasonable job he's done.

Yep but you're always going to have some idiots. I don't care where a manager comes from it's their ability that matters.

Exactly. But even the thickest idiot knows shit stinks and diamonds sparkle. It's just that Small Heath shit stinks that much more.