Manager for next season

[AV89]

He won the league in Holland didn't he? Bit unfair to dismiss his time at Boro, think he's a decent coach but not a manager.

To be fair I didn't dismiss it.  He won a trophy up there and got them to a European final.  It's just when he left to take the England job, I don't recall many of their fans being too bothered.

Interesting that Pearson is rumoured to be heading up their if McLaren goes.  Their fans don't seem to chuffed at the idea though.

[Dave]

Steve McClaren sacked. Him?

I don't get what it is about McLaren that people keep offering him jobs.

Middlesbrough.  Reasonable, but thy didn't seem sad to see him go.

England.  Failed

Forest.  Failed

Derby.  Failed.

Newcastle.  Failed.

Twente - hugely successful.

But you can also have Wolfsburg - failed.

[Villa in Denmark]

He won the league in Holland didn't he? Bit unfair to dismiss his time at Boro, think he's a decent coach but not a manager.

To be fair I didn't dismiss it.  He won a trophy up there and got them to a European final.  It's just when he left to take the England job, I don't recall many of their fans being too bothered.

Interesting that Pearson is rumoured to be heading up their if McLaren goes.  Their fans don't seem to chuffed at the idea though.

Pearson taking over at Loony Toons?  That could just be car crash TV heaven.  Pearson could largely get away with his particular brand of passive aggressive bollocks at Leicester because they were largely his players and not too many "fancy Dans" amongst them.
I can just imagine the response from some of McLaren's less robust signings, along with some of those from his predecessors, the first time Pearson asks one of them to shove his head up an emu's arse or whatever it was.

Can you imagine Pearson's attitude towards the likes of Wijnaldum, Gouffran, Thauvin or Mitrović.  The only player I can I think of at Leicester who I wouldn't include "workmanlike" in their list of attributes is Mahrez and he spent 3/4 of last season trying to work out what to do with him.

[Chris Jameson]

Since Moyes lost his job in Spain I've had him as the next Newcastle manager. Wonder if Ashley is a mate of Sherwood?

[Nelly]

Please, not Pearson. This is Aston Villa FC, we (used to) do things with a certain quiet respect.

[AV89]

Our players weren't prepared to put up with Roy Keane.   Why would the likes of Gabby be any different with Pearson?

[myf]

B'ham reporting Stan Petrov to return as 1st team coach. Plus Steve Bruce to be approached in the summer to attempt promotion from the Championship. Both good news to me if true.

B'ham Mail that is!

It's The Sun reporting the story. The Mail have just recycled it.

I could live with Bruce as manager. He wouldn't be my first choice but he'd be okay.

does he still live in solihull?

[eric woolban woolban]

Anyone but Garde.

[TB]

Anyone but Garde.

So there's about 7.3 billion better choices out there. 

[john2710]

Everything about the structure of the club is broken, from the owner & leadership, recruitment, to the players, the manager & the fans.

By the time next season kicks off, half the team will be gone (no loss) & practically the whole management structure with them (again - no loss).

Whatever management team and group of players are in place next season (and I hope they have a good idea who that will be already) is going to have an extremely difficult job to stop the rot, never mind mount a challenge to come straight back.

First we must get a management structure that has experience of running a football club, I find it astounding that after 10 years of Lerners ownership we've failed to appoint anyone with the right experience and credentials to run the club in Lerners absence.

Then we need to find a manager with proven experience of getting a team out of that league. I'm afraid Garde is a dead man walking, which is unfortunate as he's been dealt a rotten hand and it is probably a case of the right man at the wrong time. But he looks broken.

The state we're in leaves a very small list to pick from, 3 of whom could be in the Premiership by then.

Dyche
Bruce
Pearson
Houghton

[SheffieldVillain]

Then we need to find a manager with proven experience of getting a team out of that league.
The state we're in leaves a very small list to pick from, 3 of whom could be in the Premiership by then.

Dyche
Bruce
Pearson
Houghton

I'm against narrowing the search down by any such criteria. The same as 'must have Premiership experience' was a crap idea a couple of years ago. The following managers all have 'proven experience of getting a team out of that league' - Aidy Boothroyd, Neil Warnock, Paul Lambert, Malky Mackay, Tony Mowbray, Alex McLeish. Would you want any of them?

Assuming Remi goes, I want a manager who presents a coherent, intelligent plan as to what kind of squad he wants to build, how he is going to build a style of football which doesn't make my eyes bleed to watch, how he is going to get us back into the Premier and how we're going to kick on when we get back up there. I couldn't care less where he's from or where he's managed before.

[ozzjim]

If there was a coherent plan and some money I would say Rodgers would be a progressive move but it would take some convincing.

Moyes would have been perfect when Lambert was struggling and Moyes out of work, we waited too long and lost the chance, and again we went too early in sacking Tim and Moyes wanted to battle on for another few weeks in Spain.

He is one though, that I reckon if there was a different regime and he had full control would probably take it in the Championship with a lot of convincing.

No to Pearson. Liability on and off the pitch. Complete nutcase.

[KRS]

Above all anything else, we need a manager that will get the most out of the squad and make them do whatever is required to get us out of the Championship at the first time of asking. There has been too much written about behind the scenes splits in the dressing room and players not responding to training, so we need a manager to manage these players and not take any crap...can you imagine the likes of Fat Sam or Pulis putting up with the crap that has been reportedly been happening behind the scenes lately?!

I dont think Garde has what it takes to turn around this current squad, so without wholesale changes then he may as well go.

Moyes, Rowett, Howe or Rodgers have to be on the wish list but if needs be, and no matter how much a lot of us would hate it, Fat Sam or Pulis would get the job done (in fact the last 2 are the most likely to sort this bunch of crap players out).

[pbavfckuwait]

Football managers like players have quite large ego's, but while we were only a run away train, prior to us turning into a complete train wreck we were not inundated with big names rushing the doors of Aston Villa, those that did poke their toes in the doors, I think Rafa comes to mind found out what he would be given budget wise and said thanks but no thanks, OGS feted and taxied around Europe by Lerner in his toy plane decided after talks to stay in the back lands. Tiny Penis walked from Palace due to lack of funds and or how transfers would be carried out, Moyes if to be believed has been asked a number of times and politely declined, Fat Sam I think will keep Sunderland up, Pearson thanks but no thanks. The list is getting smaller, but that would suit the club remember if major changes do not take place above the manager, these are the people that gave Mr. Sherwood the job, from a list of 1.
Yes of course there are loads out there , as mentioned earlier that would see this as a great challenge and because of their egos think they could have great success, what they will think after talking to Randy's Dumb and Dumber mates once inside the club, after the fact the last manager was not supported after I am sure being told he would be, maybe another stumbling block to getting a certified class man, instead of the just certified.

[sickbeggar]

The whole attitude of Lerner and the board will be the key thing i agree. As those rejections from Martinez, OGS etc., show, a manager with a reputation and good options isn't going to jump headlong into a job without the backing of the club or a plan by the club that makes sense. Yeah you'll get the desperate  yesmen accepting it, but as their record here shows, a manager following a plan he doesn't really believe in, just gets you a bad manager. Hopefully Lerner and Co. have had 6 years to work out that a managerial structure where the manager is little more than a hired help is just as expensive and less successful than MON's control-freak model of running a club. They may be more willing to give a new manager a bit more hands-on control given the complete mess they've made of it.