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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7740 on: September 01, 2016, 07:27:15 PM »
I'm unconvinced by Ayew. Bought as a forward 12 months ago and Villa have never won when he has scored. I know we haven't won many when he hasn't scored, but we don't need forwards with that kind of record. He wouldn't make my starting 11 at the moment based on this alone never mind his temperament and sulks.

To be fair, I don't think he has played much in what I think is his best position.  I think he is best on the left hand side, cutting in on his right foot.  Him on the left, Adomah on the right and McCormack just in behind Kodjia.  Looks strong for the second tier.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7741 on: September 01, 2016, 07:35:39 PM »
Any idea on the wage structure.. I haven't seen any of the personal terms on the new players.

It's always baffled me why people need to know such things. Those that do, can I ask why?

I know, who cares what they earn or how much they cost or how much we lost on a player for that matter. It's not my money. I don't recall being asked to chip in for the Balaban/Collymore loses for example . My investment is a Season Ticket and some souvenirs every season.... I consider it good value.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7742 on: September 01, 2016, 07:36:15 PM »
I have read quite a bit about Ayew not celebrating the goal at Bristol. He didn't run across to the other side if the are but from what I saw, he walked across and shook players' hands. He always looks as though he is carrying the world on his shoulders. That's the way he is.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7743 on: September 01, 2016, 07:40:10 PM »
I have read quite a bit about Ayew not celebrating the goal at Bristol. He didn't run across to the other side if the are but from what I saw, he walked across and shook players' hands. He always looks as though he is carrying the world on his shoulders. That's the way he is.

Alternatively, play with a smile regardless and you're a gurning fuckwit who should be strung up by your bollocks until they fall off and make a new line in jewellery for the mob in B9.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7744 on: September 01, 2016, 07:44:06 PM »
I have read quite a bit about Ayew not celebrating the goal at Bristol. He didn't run across to the other side if the are but from what I saw, he walked across and shook players' hands. He always looks as though he is carrying the world on his shoulders. That's the way he is.

Alternatively, play with a smile regardless and you're a gurning fuckwit who should be strung up by your bollocks until they fall off and make a new line in jewellery for the mob in B9.

Quite. Maybe Ayew realised that we would probably need more than one goal to win.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7745 on: September 01, 2016, 07:44:25 PM »
It's the perfect example of why we football fans are hypocrites who want everything our own way.

Ayew doesn't smile? Burn him!
Bacuna smiles? Burn him!
Adama/Gana want to leave? Burn them the gutless wankers!
Gabby/Richards won't leave? Burn them the greedy lazy wankers!

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7746 on: September 01, 2016, 07:47:35 PM »
I like Ayew, I can spell his name for a start which is something I'm going to struggle with this season. Also I actually think he does care, I hope RDM and co can bring the best out of him.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7747 on: September 01, 2016, 07:49:27 PM »
just read that Marseille made and failed with a last gasp £11m bid for Ayew. Turned down by the good Doctor as no time to land a replacement.

i would have taken the money

we have kodija, adomah, gestede, grealish, mcormack, kozak (coughs)

i think we will see plenty of sulks in the near future
Would have been madness to sell him.  He doesn't have to smile, just play well.  He has always worked hard and he could be vital for us this season.

play well like he did at bristol then sulked?
So one average game outweighs a season of being our best player by a country mile (yes, yes no competition last year but even so) and mostly decent games so far this season?  OK, so his finishing has been off, but his general play is still very good.  But fuck it, he doesn't smile so shoot him.

Chris, you are fundamentally missing the salient points of most people's reservations regarding Ayew.

I am too.  What are the reservations?

This has been covered on previous threads. Everyone recognises Ayew's talent but I amongst others are concerned his mecurial, hard to quantify style isn't as productive as it should be. To suggest this is a knee jerk reaction to one poor performance is churlish. I will remain sceptical until Ayew proves me wrong. I think the tributes are extravagant. Let me know when his end product matches the eulogies.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7748 on: September 01, 2016, 07:50:46 PM »
I have read quite a bit about Ayew not celebrating the goal at Bristol. He didn't run across to the other side if the are but from what I saw, he walked across and shook players' hands. He always looks as though he is carrying the world on his shoulders. That's the way he is.

Alternatively, play with a smile regardless and you're a gurning fuckwit who should be strung up by your bollocks until they fall off and make a new line in jewellery for the mob in B9.

Quite. Maybe Ayew realised that we would probably need more than one goal to win.

We've never seen it, but maybe his line of thinking is, "celebrating is for when the final whistle goes and we're still winning."

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7749 on: September 01, 2016, 07:53:39 PM »
just read that Marseille made and failed with a last gasp £11m bid for Ayew. Turned down by the good Doctor as no time to land a replacement.

i would have taken the money

we have kodija, adomah, gestede, grealish, mcormack, kozak (coughs)

i think we will see plenty of sulks in the near future
Would have been madness to sell him.  He doesn't have to smile, just play well.  He has always worked hard and he could be vital for us this season.

play well like he did at bristol then sulked?
So one average game outweighs a season of being our best player by a country mile (yes, yes no competition last year but even so) and mostly decent games so far this season?  OK, so his finishing has been off, but his general play is still very good.  But fuck it, he doesn't smile so shoot him.

Chris, you are fundamentally missing the salient points of most people's reservations regarding Ayew.

I am too.  What are the reservations?

This has been covered on previous threads. Everyone recognises Ayew's talent but I amongst others are concerned his mecurial, hard to quantify style isn't as productive as it should be. To suggest this is a knee jerk reaction to one poor performance is churlish. I will remain sceptical until Ayew proves me wrong. I think the tributes are extravagant. Let me know when his end product matches the eulogies.

Well, there's no need pleasing some people but I would have thought being by far our best, most consistent and hardworking player may have gone some way towards it.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7750 on: September 01, 2016, 08:06:14 PM »
I agree that Ayew looks like a big,sulking baby.
But, there is no doubt that he is probably the most talented player at the club now.
Let's hope that he knuckles down and applies himself, and plays with some joy, now that he knows he is going nowhere....for 3 or 4 months at least.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2016, 08:09:35 PM by andyh »

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7751 on: September 01, 2016, 08:41:57 PM »
I agree that Ayew looks like a big,sulking baby.
But, there is no doubt that he is probably the most talented player at the club now.
Let's hope that he knuckles down and applies himself, and plays with some joy, now that he knows he is going nowhere....for 3 or 4 months at least.

Looking like he's not happy is one thing.

How does that translate to him being a big sulking baby that needs to knuckle down?

From what I've seen, he was one of the few last season who consistently looked like he knew that what was going on wasn't good enough and put in something approaching the requisite effort last season to be to hold his head up come the end of last May.

He didn't run 30 yards to join in a goal celebration on Saturday and he constantly looks like he's chewing a box of wasps and suddenly he's problem no 3 after Agbonlahor and Richards, so in reality problem no 1?


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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7752 on: September 01, 2016, 08:43:20 PM »
Agreed. He can become much more happy go lucky when we're promoted.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7753 on: September 01, 2016, 08:50:47 PM »
The bloke might just be a winner ... pissed off that the pricks he was playing with last season were not at the same level as he was, the coaching if you can call it that was next to fkin useless and that despite relegation, which doesnt do much for any players morale, we havent really started this year with aplomb.

To be fair apart from trousering 30/40k a week the guy dont have that much to smile about.

Lets see how he reacts with a few wins under our belts and a few goals

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7754 on: September 01, 2016, 08:51:29 PM »
I agree that Ayew looks like a big,sulking baby.
But, there is no doubt that he is probably the most talented player at the club now.
Let's hope that he knuckles down and applies himself, and plays with some joy, now that he knows he is going nowhere....for 3 or 4 months at least.

Looking like he's not happy is one thing.

How does that translate to him being a big sulking baby that needs to knuckle down?

From what I've seen, he was one of the few last season who consistently looked like he knew that what was going on wasn't good enough and put in something approaching the requisite effort last season to be to hold his head up come the end of last May.

He didn't run 30 yards to join in a goal celebration on Saturday and he constantly looks like he's chewing a box of wasps and suddenly he's problem no 3 after Agbonlahor and Richards, so in reality problem no 1?


I didn't say he's IS a big sulking baby though, did I ?

I like him, he's full of talent, and I think he cares.
I would love to see him play with some joy and see just how good he can be.

 


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