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Offline FatSam

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7335 on: August 30, 2016, 04:50:56 PM »
The fees paid for McCormack and Kodjia smack of desperation tactics to me - more so Kodjia. We have effectively had to write off large swathes of our squad, and very expensively re-assemble it. Of course, if we are promoted it will have been worth it, but it seems like a real gamble at the moment.

We've just signed someone who scored 20 in 48 in the Championship for £15m, 12 months after signing for £2m from Ligue 2. I just don't see how 12 months in the Championship multiples his value sevenfold (or fivefold for that matter). It's not a substantial enough indicator of his quality. Last year's Ligue 2 top scorer joined Angers (now in Lifue 1) in the summer, and the second top scorer (who is a France U20 international) joined Bournemouth for £6m.

I would be comfortable with us spending big money on a signing that was virtually guaranteed to succeed, but this one doesn't feel that safe to me.

Offline Witton Warrior

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7336 on: August 30, 2016, 04:52:12 PM »
Just need a Cowans-like midfield general and a Psycho-like defender (for a few goals) now and we can get this bloody season started!

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7337 on: August 30, 2016, 04:58:36 PM »
The fees paid for McCormack and Kodjia smack of desperation tactics to me - more so Kodjia. We have effectively had to write off large swathes of our squad, and very expensively re-assemble it. Of course, if we are promoted it will have been worth it, but it seems like a real gamble at the moment.

We've just signed someone who scored 20 in 48 in the Championship for £15m, 12 months after signing for £2m from Ligue 2. I just don't see how 12 months in the Championship multiples his value sevenfold (or fivefold for that matter). It's not a substantial enough indicator of his quality. Last year's Ligue 2 top scorer joined Angers (now in Lifue 1) in the summer, and the second top scorer (who is a France U20 international) joined Bournemouth for £6m.

I would be comfortable with us spending big money on a signing that was virtually guaranteed to succeed, but this one doesn't feel that safe to me.
Let us sign some French talents - that should work.

It is more of a gamble going for unproven at this level. The value of promotion is to much not to try go for proven championship players.

Offline Havencheese

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7338 on: August 30, 2016, 05:01:56 PM »
Bristol City's previous record recoup for selling a player was £3.5m for Ade Akinbiyi. A name I've not heard of nor thought about in ages, completely forgot he even existed.

A decent hike in fees, even taking into consideration the sale from Bristol C to Wolves was 17 years ago.

Offline villadelph

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7339 on: August 30, 2016, 05:02:19 PM »
The fees paid for McCormack and Kodjia smack of desperation tactics to me - more so Kodjia. We have effectively had to write off large swathes of our squad, and very expensively re-assemble it. Of course, if we are promoted it will have been worth it, but it seems like a real gamble at the moment.

We've just signed someone who scored 20 in 48 in the Championship for £15m, 12 months after signing for £2m from Ligue 2. I just don't see how 12 months in the Championship multiples his value sevenfold (or fivefold for that matter). It's not a substantial enough indicator of his quality. Last year's Ligue 2 top scorer joined Angers (now in Lifue 1) in the summer, and the second top scorer (who is a France U20 international) joined Bournemouth for £6m.

I would be comfortable with us spending big money on a signing that was virtually guaranteed to succeed, but this one doesn't feel that safe to me.
Let us sign some French talents - that should work.

It is more of a gamble going for unproven at this level. The value of promotion is to much not to try go for proven championship players.

Never again.

Offline brian green

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7340 on: August 30, 2016, 05:02:27 PM »
I can still hear the moaning about Yacuba Sylla.  Ligue 2?  Ligue fucking Deux? How far has this etc, etc.....
« Last Edit: August 30, 2016, 05:53:32 PM by brian green »

Online Tuscans

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7341 on: August 30, 2016, 05:25:11 PM »
When this is all over can we do a poll!
About how happy with signings
Do a poll on why Dave dislikes your poll on a Kodjia scoring 20 plus goals poll skillz.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7342 on: August 30, 2016, 05:27:15 PM »
Utility defender and a winger now please. 
Do you think Utility needs defending?

Online Tuscans

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7343 on: August 30, 2016, 05:28:14 PM »
Utility defender and a winger now please. 
Do you think Utility needs defending?
Only if utilised enough.

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7344 on: August 30, 2016, 05:36:17 PM »
We are in a difficult position in that, as a Championship club, it is very hard to get PL players in their prime to drop down.  The alternatives are Championship players where their clubs want over the odds for them (understandable as the players is possibly their star player) or look overseas.  We seem to be going down the path of proven in English football and paying accordingly.

Offline QuintonVilla

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7345 on: August 30, 2016, 05:38:23 PM »
Utility defender and a winger now please. 
Do you think Utility needs defending?
Only if utilised enough.
Utilise De La Cruz?

Offline brian green

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7346 on: August 30, 2016, 05:41:13 PM »
I think is is a sound strategy.  Build a team to do a job.  There will be a price to pay.  Pay it.  No fannying about.  We have rolled the dice for five years.  Look where that got us.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7347 on: August 30, 2016, 05:44:24 PM »
Absolutely this.

Offline avfcpg

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7348 on: August 30, 2016, 05:55:16 PM »
Spend money, we are desperate.
Don't spend money, the owner's a fraud.
Spend money, he's overpriced.
Don't spend big money, is this the level of player we are now at?

Any transfer is a gamble...

Offline Big Dick Edwards

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #7349 on: August 30, 2016, 05:58:19 PM »
I remember the days when if a player wanted an agent he payed him 10% out of his own money

And rightly so. I just don't get why clubs agree transfer fees with other clubs then have to pay agents ridiculous money on top when they are empoyees of the player. If a player wants representation in financial matters he should pay for that service himself. Parasites.

 


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