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Offline Nelly

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #6015 on: August 18, 2016, 10:37:21 AM »
I think I'd rather keep Amavi and Ayew than to try and bring back Benteke. He seemed quite disinterested/sulky at times even when we were in the Premiership - not that I blame him for that, we were trash.

But I'd definitely rather keep two of our better players than swap them for a position in which we're decently stocked.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #6016 on: August 18, 2016, 10:38:46 AM »
I might wel be wrong but didn't Ayew play up front the season before we bought him with some success?

He'd be my forward, no question. I think he'd frighten the life out of some defences and with some decent supply he'd score a hatful. Not a winger/wing forward for me.

I think he will be better if we can get the ball to him through midfield faster. The clips I saw of him in France tended to show him in a lot of space. I had thought that Veretout would be ideal for this but he seems out of favour.

Mm, I liked Veretout. Seemed an average midfielder but with an eye for a pass. More forward thinking than Westwood. Maybe alongside Tshibola or Jedinak he could be useful.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #6017 on: August 18, 2016, 10:40:19 AM »

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #6018 on: August 18, 2016, 11:29:40 AM »
...Would Benetke be tempted???
No

no thanks, I could actually see what Brendan Rogers said. one dimensional, we made him look good because the team worked for him, and I don't want to go back to that,

the FA Cup final against arsenal, Wenger so got his tactics right, stop the final ball to benteke and you've contained Villa.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #6019 on: August 18, 2016, 11:33:51 AM »
Interesting that after only 3 games no team has a 100% record.

To me this says straightaway a really tight and competitive division, so I believe any signings from now on have to have that x factor/extra quality which will win us crucial points.

So for me an outstanding goal scoring attacking midfielder/winger/striker - just not sure who !

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #6020 on: August 18, 2016, 11:42:54 AM »
How much fun is Dr X going to be on transfer deadline day? He'll so be having to get involved & tweeting all day about incomings....

Revolving door!

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #6021 on: August 18, 2016, 11:50:23 AM »
...Would Benetke be tempted???
No

no thanks, I could actually see what Brendan Rogers said. one dimensional, we made him look good because the team worked for him, and I don't want to go back to that,

the FA Cup final against arsenal, Wenger so got his tactics right, stop the final ball to benteke and you've contained Villa.

One dimensional?! Headers, long-range shots, solo-runs, over-head-kicks, free-kicks...!? How's that one-dimensional?! The team that" made him look good" did a pretty good job of not looking very good when he wasn't in it.

Yes, he had off-days too, but to suggest that he was one-dimensional is just wrong.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #6022 on: August 18, 2016, 12:06:09 PM »
...Would Benetke be tempted???
No

no thanks, I could actually see what Brendan Rogers said. one dimensional, we made him look good because the team worked for him, and I don't want to go back to that,

the FA Cup final against arsenal, Wenger so got his tactics right, stop the final ball to benteke and you've contained Villa.

One dimensional?! Headers, long-range shots, solo-runs, over-head-kicks, free-kicks...!? How's that one-dimensional?! The team that" made him look good" did a pretty good job of not looking very good when he wasn't in it.

Yes, he had off-days too, but to suggest that he was one-dimensional is just wrong.
Agree entirely

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #6023 on: August 18, 2016, 12:08:17 PM »
...Would Benetke be tempted???
No

no thanks, I could actually see what Brendan Rogers said. one dimensional, we made him look good because the team worked for him, and I don't want to go back to that,

the FA Cup final against arsenal, Wenger so got his tactics right, stop the final ball to benteke and you've contained Villa.

One dimensional?! Headers, long-range shots, solo-runs, over-head-kicks, free-kicks...!? How's that one-dimensional?! The team that" made him look good" did a pretty good job of not looking very good when he wasn't in it.

Yes, he had off-days too, but to suggest that he was one-dimensional is just wrong.

Plus, we did the worst possible job playing off him as well - the supply line was mostly crap except for Gabby having a decent run of form once every few months and Bacuna swinging in some decent crosses every now and then, and absolutely no forward or midfielder who he could link up with or who could properly exploit the space that he created with his physical presence.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #6024 on: August 18, 2016, 12:14:35 PM »
...Would Benetke be tempted???
No

no thanks, I could actually see what Brendan Rogers said. one dimensional, we made him look good because the team worked for him, and I don't want to go back to that,

the FA Cup final against arsenal, Wenger so got his tactics right, stop the final ball to benteke and you've contained Villa.

One dimensional?! Headers, long-range shots, solo-runs, over-head-kicks, free-kicks...!? How's that one-dimensional?! The team that" made him look good" did a pretty good job of not looking very good when he wasn't in it.

Yes, he had off-days too, but to suggest that he was one-dimensional is just wrong.

I think one dimensional means exactly what you say, where were the assists, where was thee defensive ability, the lay off's the team ethic. so the reason Liverpool are selling him is because he does not fit into there team and by the same token, I think we are evolving and need players that work for the team.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #6025 on: August 18, 2016, 12:20:52 PM »


As the kids would say 'lols at someone suggesting they wouldn't take Benteke back in a heart beat'

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #6026 on: August 18, 2016, 12:27:41 PM »
Is it worth a shot ......
Amarvi to Liverpool 12 million - they want a left back
Ayew to West Ham 15 million - his brother now injured

The Big Man back home ....Im sure Dr Tony could convince him 30 million

Little outlay ...we have cover at left back and Im not sure about Ayew out wide ........... Would Benetke be tempted???

I would take that scenario in a heartbeat. Amavi hasn't shown much, and Ayew is a square peg in a round hole. Benteke was the best centre forward at Villa since Andy Gray MK1, and would clean up in the championship next to RM.

Doubt it will happen though.

Offline Tony Erdington

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #6027 on: August 18, 2016, 12:32:24 PM »


As the kids would say 'lols at someone suggesting they wouldn't take Benteke back in a heart beat'

the reason we were so shit was because we channelled all our ball to benteke, and with the not so good managers we had couldn't break the mould and therefore the team played the same without the focal point, We became one dimensional, just look how the goals were spread around the team.

So you may back the kids and there heart beat, I want a successful team, and for the money and wages it would take to bring back a player non of the better teams seem interested in I think theres better deals to be had.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #6028 on: August 18, 2016, 12:39:53 PM »
...Would Benetke be tempted???
No

no thanks, I could actually see what Brendan Rogers said. one dimensional, we made him look good because the team worked for him, and I don't want to go back to that,

the FA Cup final against arsenal, Wenger so got his tactics right, stop the final ball to benteke and you've contained Villa.

One dimensional?! Headers, long-range shots, solo-runs, over-head-kicks, free-kicks...!? How's that one-dimensional?! The team that" made him look good" did a pretty good job of not looking very good when he wasn't in it.

Yes, he had off-days too, but to suggest that he was one-dimensional is just wrong.

I think one dimensional means exactly what you say, where were the assists, where was thee defensive ability, the lay off's the team ethic. so the reason Liverpool are selling him is because he does not fit into there team and by the same token, I think we are evolving and need players that work for the team.

The assists were there, not as many as he got goals but I reckon he got 4-5 a season, which is fine considering he was our main goal threat. 

Defensive ability, who cares he's a 9, his main defensive contributions should've been to close down defenders a few times, be an 'out' ball for us to clear to and come back and be a presence defending set pieces, he did all of those to an acceptable standard.

Lay offs - he's probably the best forward we've had in the last 15-20 years at bringing people into play so I'm not sure where to start with that criticism.

Liverpool are selling him because their fans never wanted him and without that support his head has gone down and he's a shadow of the player we sold them, not because he's one-dimensional.

He's as complete a centre-forward as anyone in the league and Villa fans criticising him smacks a little of 'yeah well he wasn't that great anyway' to make themselves feel a little better over him leaving.  The one-dimensional player you're describing is the guy we bought to replace him.

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Re: Summer 2016: Transfer rumours and suggestions
« Reply #6029 on: August 18, 2016, 12:41:09 PM »
Is it worth a shot ......
Amarvi to Liverpool 12 million - they want a left back
Ayew to West Ham 15 million - his brother now injured

The Big Man back home ....Im sure Dr Tony could convince him 30 million

Little outlay ...we have cover at left back and Im not sure about Ayew out wide ........... Would Benetke be tempted???
Cover at left back, you say. Who?  - Bennett is effectively unproven and Cissokho is shite.

 


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